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Old 06-04-2011, 05:57 AM   #1
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Really?

Of all the characters to get killed, the ONE black mutant is the first one to go.

They could have picked any other mutant, ANY other. There are loads of them. But you give us the one black mutant who gets killed about halfway through the film, after only showing up in two scenes.

Don't give me the whole "he can still come back." In THIS movie, he is dead. According to the other mutants, he is dead. That is where the problem lies.

Also, it was very lame how they said "we will avenge him", as if that was supposed to be the real emotional moment of the film. Face it, he was brought in and killed off cheaply and the film did not bother caring about him after then.

It's a topic that many people are commenting on and you just can't ignore, it is so glaringly obvious. The black guy gets it first....IN THE SIXTIES no less.

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I'm a brotha and I have no issues with it at all bro. Darwin was the bravest and most mature of all except x and magneto. As a leader he stood up for what is right. It's a movie- people die. Besides he wasn't the only black mutant in the movie. Don't tell me you missed storm's cameo!

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Yeah, they should have totally made it Thunderbird. It might still be considered racism, but at least it would be comic book accurate racism.

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Old 06-04-2011, 06:19 AM   #4
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I'm a brotha and I have no issues with it at all bro. Darwin was the bravest and most mature of all except x and magneto. As a leader he stood up for what is right. It's a movie- people die. Besides he wasn't the only black mutant in the movie. Don't tell me you missed storm's cameo!
Think I missed that....

But come on man, the way it happened was so cheap and sudden. At least build up his character, let him do SOMETHING. You need to give the audience a reason to care for him. Other black guys have said the same thing that it was like the old movie cliche.

If we saw him in battle, being brave, risking his life during the climax, and then dying, I would have been cool with that. But come on, a guy who is supposed to be able to adapt gets punked by some energy ball Shaw puts into him?

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Think I missed that....

But come on man, the way it happened was so cheap and sudden. At least build up his character, let him do SOMETHING. You need to give the audience a reason to care for him. Other black guys have said the same thing that it was like the old movie cliche.

If we saw him in battle, being brave, risking his life during the climax, and then dying, I would have been cool with that. But come on, a guy who is supposed to be able to adapt gets punked by some energy ball Shaw puts into him?
I don't see it the same way as you do. Your reaction is not how everyone else reacts.

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Old 06-04-2011, 06:30 AM   #6
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ExacTly maniac. I felt dude was a solid character who represented more then a cliche. His death more then anything was a wake-up call to the other mutants that they were in true ruthless war and that this wasn't spy kids. They'd have to train extremely hard just to be a challenge to shaw


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I'm fine with it. I'm a black man in my late 20's and all i saw was a very heroic x-man trying to help his friends/team mates. Honestly, this was Darwin not Bishop or Storm or somebody. If this becomes a trilogy, I wouldn't place money on him surviving the whole thing. He had to go sometime and it might as well be now and in a cool and awesome way. I liked him but I can't complain.

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Something about Edi Gathigi rubs me the wrong way.. I was kinda glad it was sooner rather than later.

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He was in the movie to attract Twilight fans to see it. It could've been played by anyone !

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I'm not surprised. Hollywood still sticks to them stereotypical cliches. Darwin isn't dead in the comics but then neither is Shaw. I saw no need for him to die, heck he was cheaply and horribly done anyway. I'd love to see a black character actually written well in one of these films. Not even a mention of Civil rights in an era where it was a huge deal. Please. Heck Storm was done poorly so I wouldn't expect an actor that has
even less clout then Berry be done even different. Still as a person of color part of you dislikes to see the same cliche in movies. My god you have an all white cast for the most part and you kill off the black character? It is what it is. I also wouldnt expect seeing any other black characters show up in those xfilms since their isnt any to really use save for Storm. Bishop?? Yeah right and we just saw Bishop's mutant power dipicted on screen in Shaw.

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What about Angel?

But I agree, they killed Darwin off waaay too quickly. I liked him to be honest, and even though you may not like to hear it, he still has the chance to come back.

I wonder how that would work though...

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What about Angel?

But I agree, they killed Darwin off waaay too quickly. I liked him to be honest, and even though you may not like to hear it, he still has the chance to come back.

I wonder how that would work though...
They both was useless characters that little thought went into for no other reason then to have the cliched character kill of the black dude and the black chick is a whore sort of, dancing in a strip club. Typical. At least some motivation for Angel going with Shaw would've been due to the treatment of blacks in that era as second class citizens and In Shaw's offer she sees fairness. But no, not even a mention of civil rights.

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I'm a brotha and I have no issues with it at all bro. Darwin was the bravest and most mature of all except x and magneto. As a leader he stood up for what is right. It's a movie- people die. Besides he wasn't the only black mutant in the movie. Don't tell me you missed storm's cameo!
Agreed I'm Black Darwins death didn't bother me at all. I'm not supporting every black dude in movies I see just because they are the same race as me.

No one complained Quill was the only Asian dude to die in The Last Stand after a few scenes.

I've read X-Men comics since I was a kid and the normal well adjusted Black guy dies before in X-Men Comics (Synch in Generation X, Bedlam in X-Force)

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Good picture. Why wasn't Jim Carey in the film?

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Racism!!!!

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Angel is black too...well at least partly.

Not to mention, who cares...he was a cool character (even though his screen time was really short) but people have to go. Not to mention he was never a big character in the X-men comics so its not a biggie. If this was storm, I'm sure everybody would be freaking out but its not.

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I'm not especially distraught about him dying because he was black, although I'm not belittling others who take issue with that at all.

But I'm disappointed that he was such a meaningless character. I get that, story-wise, it's meant to push the other kids to care about fighting their villain, but that makes him a plot device, not an interesting character. If his death was so much more important to them than the hundred or so CIA agents who were also killed, why was there nary a peep from any of the X-Kids to Shaw - or, more dramatically, to Angel, who prior to his death had been his friend - about what a low move it was?

I think the lack of impact of his death on the other characters makes it harder for the impact on the audience to be as strong.

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I agree with it being a wake up call for the younger mutants. It was established in their minds that Darwin would be able to survive anything, so for him to die really showed them that this war was serious and at their front door.

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I'm not surprised. Hollywood still sticks to them stereotypical cliches. Darwin isn't dead in the comics but then neither is Shaw. I saw no need for him to die, heck he was cheaply and horribly done anyway. I'd love to see a black character actually written well in one of these films. Not even a mention of Civil rights in an era where it was a huge deal. Please...
No surprise for me. I knew they wouldn't touch that subject in this film. For all their talk about xmen parralelling civil rights in the 60s and they dont mention the one thing that acted as the inspiration for Xavier and Magneto.

The guys in Star Strek that wear the red shirt always get killed off first. The black man never gets the woman and always bites the bullet first, lol!

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I wish people would stop getting hung up over this racial issue. It's ridiculous, really..

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angry cause they made the one black chick in the picture a turn coat stripper with no development(besides being a turn coat) and the one black dude(with a lot of presence) killed in a power display by the boss?

this is transformers Jazz's death hate all over again.
in a word unfounded.
I thought the scene was more heroic than almost any other, beautiful death scene by the way. And unlike almost any other character, the opening for a return.

He literally said his power before he was killed and they they said they didn't find a body, I mean, this is a comic book film.

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Honestly, of all the people they could have killed it should've been Havok or Angel. Havok was surprisingly lame and Angel..well..he ability was a bit silly.

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I wish people would stop getting hung up over this racial issue. It's ridiculous, really..
Well it's easy to say when majority of the the characters are white and even better the ones with the coolest powers. So a Havok is killed off? , well you got a Prof X, Magneto, Banshee, Cyclops and so on. How malt well written black guys are their in comics as a whole? Not many. In the Xmen, none.

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