What must occur for this film to be good.

[bhayes]

Darren A. is out of the picture but i really think his structure and direction he was aiming for will remain with The WOLVERINE.

the key thing is this. the execs really need to let the writers and directors do their thing this time. they interfered with orgins and look at what happened. the didn't mess with first class and we got a great movie that rebooted everything.

basically orgins is now a bad dream that we can forget about. i hope they can get the right director and do a film that is like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t642gZK322M

[Anno_Domini]

What must happen? FOX needs to let the director run with it. For some reason, FOX seems to always **** on their comic book projects when Singer isn't involved(Fantastic Four, Daredevil, X3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine). Time for FOX to just let the director have creative control, whoever the director is. I wouldn't mind Duncan Jones myself.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Get a new Wolverine.

[Anno_Domini]

Nothing is wrong with Jackman.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Says you.

[nouan]

I like Hugh Jackman, but he's too damn tall for the role.

[Godman]

get the book ORIGINS and copy it. that simple

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

Says you.

YES...SAYS I!!!!

Originally Posted by nouan

I like Hugh Jackman, but he's too damn tall for the role.

He is too tall, but then again, I can't think of a short actor that'd be good enough.

[bhayes]

My issue is there are too many plot-holes and continuity errors in the movie verse of x men.

The Wolverine should happen in a new separate continuity like darren was planning. i hope they get the guy who directed Training Day to work on it (antoine fuqua) he knows how to direct a gritty film.

The wolverine now has to be equally as good and relevant as First Class.

the movies have really messed up the whole sabertooth - wolverine rivalry. and now we are supposed to believe that magneto and professor x have met logan before.

when magneto runs into logan in x men 1 he acts as though he never knew who he was. "you must be wolverine" "that metal doesn't run thru your entire body does it?" in x2 it is revealed that magneto knows about the adamantium procedure only.

so its another continuity thing.

Jackman is in shape but x men was filmed 11 years ago. he is clearly older.
but first class happens in the 60's.

so i hope and pray that The Wolverine will be close to what darren was planning

[GoldGoblin]

Use technology to shrink Hugh to 5'3 if they do stay with him.But please recast this character.

[BareYourTeeth]

How about Tom Hardy guys?

[Anno_Domini]

Lol. I blame Ryan Reynolds for adding to the whole "someone can be in a Marvel movie AND a DC movie".

[danoyse]

Originally Posted by nouan

I like Hugh Jackman, but he's too damn tall for the role.

It's been 11 years and 5 movies now. We're still going on about this?

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Lol. I blame Ryan Reynolds for adding to the whole "someone can be in a Marvel movie AND a DC movie".

For what?

I'd prefer a director not on that shortlist. Not sure who.

[S. Grundy]

Originally Posted by bhayes

My issue is there are too many plot-holes and continuity errors in the movie verse of x men.

The Wolverine should happen in a new separate continuity like darren was planning. i hope they get the guy who directed Training Day to work on it (antoine fuqua) he knows how to direct a gritty film.

I don't think it was going to set up its own continuity, it just was going to not throw in a bunch of references to the films and keep the story self contained.

And Fuqua is a pretty bland director.

the movies have really messed up the whole sabertooth - wolverine rivalry. and now we are supposed to believe that magneto and professor x have met logan before.

Well, I don't about you but I don't remember every person I meet, especially if it was many years ago and only for a few seconds, that is really just a non-issue.

when magneto runs into logan in x men 1 he acts as though he never knew who he was. "you must be wolverine" "that metal doesn't run thru your entire body does it?" in x2 it is revealed that magneto knows about the adamantium procedure only.

That doesn't disprove anything. He says this in X2:

You don't remember, do you? William Stryker: The only other man I know who can manipulate adamantium. The metal on your bones. It carries his signature.

Just because he knows who Stryker is and that he knows he can manipulate adamantium doesn't mean he should know who Wolverine is in X-Men.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by danoyse

It's been 11 years and 5 movies now. We're still going on about this?

Weird...I definitely felt a little deja-vu while reading this.

Originally Posted by HighFivingMF

For what?

I'd prefer a director not on that shortlist. Not sure who.

For....this:

How about Tom Hardy guys?

First someone wants some actor to play everything, and then after Reynolds, they keep pushing said actor's name for both Marvel and DC, lol.

[HighFivingMF]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

First someone wants some actor to play everything, and then after Reynolds, they keep pushing said actor's name for both Marvel and DC, lol.

Actors are actors. Tom Hardy doesn't belong to DC or WB nor does Ryan Reynolds belong to Fox. If you can't get past the fact that they work more than once in their life, than I don't know if movies are for you.

Tom Hardy and Ryan Reynolds are both great actors and it's not impossible to do a Marvel and DC role a justice. Anyhow, back to The Wolverine.

[The Morningstar]

Yea, people who are like "He can't do a Marvel film after doing a DC film!" or visa versa need to sort themselves out.

Anyway... the big problem with the first Wolverine movie was that Logan was a pussy cat, not a Wolverine. Where was this "animal" Hugh Jackman and the producers were going on about in the lead up to the film?

The main point of the character is that he is battling with his animalistic instincts and trying to be human. Well, how can that be told in a compelling way if we didn't get to see the animal side of him?

I literally laughed out loud in Wolverine Origins when he was like "I'm the best there is at what I do, but what I do isn't very nice". No he's not, Creed, Wade and even Agent Zero seemed to be better killers than him.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by HighFivingMF

Actors are actors. Tom Hardy doesn't belong to DC or WB nor does Ryan Reynolds belong to Fox. If you can't get past the fact that they work more than once in their life, than I don't know if movies are for you.

Tom Hardy and Ryan Reynolds are both great actors and it's not impossible to do a Marvel and DC role a justice. Anyhow, back to The Wolverine.

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Yea, people who are like "He can't do a Marvel film after doing a DC film!" or visa versa need to sort themselves out.

There's a thing called "variety", hence why someone shouldn't take so many roles, hence why people should stop bringing only one name for every single role.

I love me some movies...but I also love "variety". If you two don't, then..."I don't know if movies are for you".

Anyway... the big problem with the first Wolverine movie was that Logan was a pussy cat, not a Wolverine. Where was this "animal" Hugh Jackman and the producers were going on about in the lead up to the film?

The reason we didn't see that "animal"? FOX. They wanted to attract the kiddies as well and we had pretty much zero blood. I'm surprised we even got a curse word once or twice in the film.

[The Morningstar]

Why is there no variety? What because they are playing multiple comic book characters? So what, comic book characters are all the same?

Just forget that they are comic book characters. Just erase that from your mind. It's different characters in different films.

Like say, with Reynolds. Hal Jordan and Deadpool are literally nothing alike. They are two characters on completely different ends of the spectrum. If Reynolds plays both of them, that's still variety. If both those characters were similar? Yea i could understand where people are coming from. But they ain't.

[Anno_Domini]

But to have to get one guy to play two different characters is non-sense. For the Deadpool movie, they should find someone else, especially since XMOW pretty much doesn't exist in any movie continuity.

And Reynolds....he can really, only play, one type of person. There's no variety in him and no variety from him as Deadpool and what we've seen of him as Hal.

[The Morningstar]

Why is it nonsense? One minute you're arguing for variety... now you're arguing against it? Why is it nonsense to get one guy to play two different characters? Do you realize how absurd this mentality is? It's just two different roles, two different jobs. It's an actors job to play different characters.

And the proposed Deadpool movie has nothing to do with the Wolverine film, other than mocking it.

Reynolds has quite a bit of range. You'd know that if you watched films like The Nines, Chaos Theory, Fireflies in the Garden and Buried.

No variety from him as Deadpool? How can you tell that from a 5 minute cameo appearance? His lines as Wade Wilson in that film were actually improvised by himself. He knows how to play the role of Deadpool, and after reading the script, there is a lot of meat to that character and I think Reynolds could nail it.

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Why is it nonsense? One minute you're arguing for variety... now you're arguing against it? Why is it nonsense to get one guy to play two different characters? Do you realize how absurd this mentality is? It's just two different roles, two different jobs. It's an actors job to play different characters.

And the proposed Deadpool movie has nothing to do with the Wolverine film, other than mocking it.

Reynolds has quite a bit of range. You'd know that if you watched films like The Nines, Chaos Theory, Fireflies in the Garden and Buried.

No variety from him as Deadpool? How can you tell that from a 5 minute cameo appearance? His lines as Wade Wilson in that film were actually improvised by himself. He knows how to play the role of Deadpool, and after reading the script, there is a lot of meat to that character and I think Reynolds could nail it.

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about.

Funny, I watched all of those films(even though you, Lucifer, think otherwise, yes?) and I saw no variety in Ryan Reynolds. Plain and simple, I am not a fan of the guy's acting and I don't see him acting any different of him as Green Lantern or Deadpool.

And to say anything about the Deadpool movie...how would you know? Did you read it? Oh, wait...did you write the script?

And Hardy...he has great acting chops, but I just don't like the idea, plain and simple, to bring in one's name that is already, or already has been in a comic book film. Probably another reason why I don't like Evans as Captain America. I'd prefer someone else, but, I'll still give it shot, mostly because of Hugo Weaving as Red Skull though.

[HighFivingMF]

mostly because of Hugo Weaving as Red Skull though.

And the Deadpool script has been online for months, so yeah, he probably read it.

[Anno_Domini]

Ahh, Hell....is that V for Vendetta? Was Weaving V?