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Old 06-05-2011, 07:50 PM   #26
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Ahh, Hell....is that V for Vendetta? Was Weaving V?
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:52 PM   #27
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Well, the Transformers movies blow, and Weaving doesn't even watch them himself, but...damn...didn't know he was V(is it a good movie?)

But...I give up...if V was a good film, then...I fold with my argument.

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Old 06-05-2011, 11:15 PM   #28
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just a good director since i hear the script is very good

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Old 06-06-2011, 02:17 AM   #29
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Funny, I watched all of those films(even though you, Lucifer, think otherwise, yes?) and I saw no variety in Ryan Reynolds. Plain and simple, I am not a fan of the guy's acting and I don't see him acting any different of him as Green Lantern or Deadpool.
Really? So you are saying his performance in The Nines is the same as his performance in Van Wilder?

Wrong.

And you don't think he'd play Hal Jordan and Deadpool differently? Even though the characters are completely different?

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And Hardy...he has great acting chops, but I just don't like the idea, plain and simple, to bring in one's name that is already, or already has been in a comic book film. Probably another reason why I don't like Evans as Captain America. I'd prefer someone else, but, I'll still give it shot, mostly because of Hugo Weaving as Red Skull though.
Well I just think that is a ridiculously stupid mentality. They are acting jobs, that's it. As long as the roles are different, who gives a **** if it's in the same genre?

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Old 06-06-2011, 05:31 AM   #30
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The same actor doing different roles in comicbook movies is only a problem, if he/she plays multiple characters in the same movie universe. Ryan Reynolds playing DC and Marvel character is no problem. And Chris Evans was in Fantastic Four before Captain America, but FF doesn't belong to the universe Marvel is creating now with their movies. Besides, as far as I'm consern, the FF movies could be forgotten. They were bad movies.

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Old 06-06-2011, 11:18 AM   #31
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Really? So you are saying his performance in The Nines is the same as his performance in Van Wilder?

Wrong.

And you don't think he'd play Hal Jordan and Deadpool differently? Even though the characters are completely different?
Meh. Just don't care for Reynolds. Can never see anything new about him in any of his films. He just seems...douche-like.

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Well I just think that is a ridiculously stupid mentality. They are acting jobs, that's it. As long as the roles are different, who gives a **** if it's in the same genre?
Then think of it any way as you want.

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Old 06-08-2011, 11:12 PM   #32
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bryan singer recently did an interview where he basically points out what was wrong with orgins.
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"'Wolverine' told a story, but it didn't always feel like a story that was very essential or interesting."
but he is politely saying that the film really sucked. he is such a gentleman.

i wish that he had stuck with x men 3. had this happened wolverine would'nt have become the train wreck it became.

so i really feel like they need to focus on making this film as close to what darren was planning as possible.

and the Fox needs ot let them make a good film. wolverine orgins was just a poor film in everyway possible. i mean orgins at times felt like a sci-fi channel tv movie. that's how basic it was.

who knows. maybe fox should get bryan to oversee things a producer on The wolverine to make sure things go smoothly.

there was a guy here who did a fan version of orgins. i think it was alexi, did he ever post that by the way?

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Old 06-08-2011, 11:49 PM   #33
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Aronofsky is not doing the film, get over it. Which ever director comes around is, for better or worse, going to try to put his vision on the screen not someone elses.

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Old 06-17-2011, 09:44 PM   #34
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What must occur for this film to be good...

1. Foreign language, at least in some parts (I am now quite confident about this since they happily used German well in X-men First Class.). Japanese is such a beautiful language, use it or loose the film.

2. No random characters (Hey kids, Gambit just walked in! Whut?)

3. Violence. Has to happen in a film with knives coming out of a guys hands. It doesn't have to be R rated, it just has to happen.

4. An excellent supporting cast with great actors. Japan has great actors so use them.

5. A tragic ending. We all know what I'm talking about.

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Old 06-24-2011, 12:48 AM   #35
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What needs to happen is a good story. And we need to get back to the Wolverine basics.

Scratch that. We need to GET the Wolverine basics.

The one thing that has been woefully unexplored, or done very poorly, is the essential aspect of Wolverine's character: The struggle between beast and man. The X-men movies virtually ignored it. Origins tried to address it, but failed miserably due to the fact that for all their lines about "become the animal" or "you're not an animal," Logan was more of a boy scout in Origins then he was in X-men.

Wolverine is a man who has gone through a lot of crap. Not counting some horrible life experiences, what Weapon X did to him was heinous. Not only did they physically abuse him, they tortured him mentally and emotionally. They tried to strip away anything that made him human, steal his humanity, and turn him into a mindless animal that only knew how to kill.

When you realize that, you can understand why Wolverine has to deal with these rages. Why he has to struggle so hard. This movie needs to allude to that. And they need to explore the primal struggle that goes on inside Wolverine. The struggle between humanity and our animal nature is an age old theme, and it's one they've either ignored or butchered.

Not only that, but it is the CENTERPIECE of the Japan story. It needs to be included, and it needs to be done right. It's what made Wolverine the popular character he is.

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Old 06-25-2011, 01:59 PM   #36
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I wanna see some Wolvie Rage and him trying to control it in Japan

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Old 06-27-2011, 06:51 AM   #37
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-No more cliches lines and story-arcs
-Better production design and visual effects

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Old 08-05-2011, 03:21 PM   #38
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For it to be good, they have to completely ignore Origins, pretend that that movie doesnt exist ( I already do) and start over with his actual backstory, Get the writers to read some Xmen and wolverine comics and most importantly Origins and then just write that as a movie script.

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For it to be good, they have to completely ignore Origins, pretend that that movie doesnt exist ( I already do) and start over with his actual backstory, Get the writers to read some Xmen and wolverine comics and most importantly Origins and then just write that as a movie script.
I don't see ignoring Origins can make The Wolverine a good film.

Good TV series had their bad and good episodes so as movie series.

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Old 08-18-2011, 05:41 PM   #40
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there must be lots of fighting in this, and have some real bloodshed for once. that is core to the claremont-miller mini-series.

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What must occur for this film to be good...

1. Foreign language, at least in some parts (I am now quite confident about this since they happily used German well in X-men First Class.). Japanese is such a beautiful language, use it or loose the film.

2. No random characters (Hey kids, Gambit just walked in! Whut?)

3. Violence. Has to happen in a film with knives coming out of a guys hands. It doesn't have to be R rated, it just has to happen.

4. An excellent supporting cast with great actors. Japan has great actors so use them.

5. A tragic ending. We all know what I'm talking about.
Those five are exactly what needs to be done. I LOVED that First Class used subtitles. It adds so much more depth to films. Maybe the dodo's hate it and First Class did have lower box office than other films who went all English in foreign situations, unfortunately.


I think we all agree on the violence but I doubt we're going to get the "R" rated film we want. I think Captain America handled the violence quite well. With the right Hitchcock type cuts, reaction to violence can be just as effective. Blood splattering on the Hydra logo and the cloud of blood through the propeller worked in Cap.


And YES no random mutant cameos PLEASE. Fox has to get this by now. Just tell the Japan story and tell it well.


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Honestly, after we see the results I think a majority is going to say "thank God Aronofsky passed" because I believe they are about to hit one out of the park with this film. It's just like we all say "thank God Tom Cruise passed on the role of Tony Stark." Anybody but RDJ at this point would be wrong.

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Well I love Hugh Jackman, he is an amazing Wolverine, and a bit of a rough hotty though a tad bit too old for me... Anyway, he is too tall to play Wolvie...
I'd love to see the romance that turns into Daken. Although I'm a bit Wolverine fan, being British I haven't had the chance to collect the comics and the graphic novel is so damn expensive, so I'm a bit hazey on who Daken's mother was, all I know is that he ripped himself of his Mother's womb. Well that's what I got from a Hulk story...
Would even more for a younger Nick Fury to show up and kick some ass thus leading up to the New Avengers but thAt being impossible I highly doubt it

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Gambit wasn't random in the Wolverine movie.

He saved the movie to be honest.

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Good Acting
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The thing is, Wolverine is an animal! Let the writers show the animal on screen, don't just mention it!

I know the ladies love Hugh, but for God's shake, let him be Wolverine!

For all i care, x-men 1 was a wolverine movie, and the origin might as well have been a movie about another mutant with claws...maybe Daken! Cuz seriously, wolverine was kinda gay in his movie. Too whinie and lots of guys kept kicking his ass!!!

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I still find that line in XWO "You're not an animal" funny.

So dramatic and cheesey!

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Old 09-09-2011, 12:04 PM   #47
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...What's the tragic ending people want?

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I'm just looking for a great film. I have a feeling this will be a great adaption of the Frank Miller novel, but we'll just have to wait and see.

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Old 09-09-2011, 01:51 PM   #49
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Here Is what I want

Berzeker fury wolverine

Cast a beautiful Asian actress as Mariko who works well with High jackman.
This relationship Is critical for the film.

If Yurkio Is still In film afte rewrites cast a sexy asian woman.Wolverine
should turn to her after Mariko IS forced Into arranged marrage.She should
have more genune feelings for Logan than he does for her.His heart should
belong to Mariko although he defently Is attracted to Yuriko.

If The Silver Samuri Isn't only mutant enemy for Wolverine only use Sunfire.
Don't add a bunch of mutants.

We need an hugh battle between Wolverine and Shingen.He uses swoads against Wolverine's claws.

Since this could be Hugh's last film as Wolverine make It good.

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If they cant make a good Wolverine movie out of this story then the characters gonna be ****ed for awhile. This is it. Show us Logan actually killing people berzerker style.

Would not complain if Sunfire or Psylocke are in, probably not gonna see them for a very long time in a film if they dont show up in this. Really couldnt see any other mutants who arent in the Japan comic being thrown in the film so I dont think they will over stuff this with mutants. All the big names that are draws to a majority of audiences have pretty much been used now and only so many mutants have ties to Japan. They are a bit limited.

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