Halo 4

[Soapy]

I was talking about the multiplayer...

[Boom]

Originally Posted by Matt Mortem

Grenades need nerfed badly. They are way too powerful

It's a joke how overpowered they are in this game.

Close-range combat isn't even fun anymore. It's just a ****fest of grenade-throwing.

[Boom]

Originally Posted by Soapy

I was talking about the multiplayer...

What exactly did you hate about it?

[Matt Mortem]

I agree. I was not a fan of the Halo 2 campaign at all. But that multiplayer was AWESOME

[Master Chief]

Yeah Halo 2 campaign sucked coz Microsoft rushed it out. The multiplayer though... good times. Those maps were the best.

Originally Posted by Matt Mortem

The beta seems pointless to me. I did really notice any difference between the Reach beta and the finished version. It's like a glorified demo IMO

It's there so they can find balancing issues and see how the game plays. I didn't play it myself but some changes I heard they made were upping the DMR from 13 shots to 15 and you used to be able to go into armor lock 5 times or so back to back, which they lowered to 2.

Originally Posted by Boom

It's a joke how overpowered they are in this game.

Close-range combat isn't even fun anymore. It's just a ****fest of grenade-throwing.

lol I think they fixed it coz I'm not getting anymore lucky kills from the grave.

[Soapy]

Originally Posted by Boom

What exactly did you hate about it?

Hate is a strong word, I just thought it was rather poor. But I'll go ahead and air some of my grievances about it.

A lot of what I dislike about it could be called nitpicky. Such as I didn't like that there was no fall damage, the jumps were way too floaty, grenades were incredibly weak, etc. I think those are genuinely bad design decisions, but the real issue I had with it comes down to this: I just didn't like the focus on dual-wielding. Especially since they started you off with a single SMG. By itself, the weakest gun in the game next to the redesigned pistol.

By starting you off with a weak gun, except for the very beginning of the match where everyone is equal, you were always at a disadvantage when you spawned. Whereas in Halo 1, you started off with a very good weapon, the pistol. This ensured that whenever you spawned you had a fighting chance against a better equipped player.

In addition, take the fact that the weapon balance heavily favored dual-wielded weapons, and add 1: You couldn't melee while dual-wielding, and 2: you couldn't throw grenades while dual-wielding, and this meant that most battles in the game devolved into extremely boring circle strafing until someone died.

I could also go on to say how I really don't like how slow and plodding the movement in Halo is, how bullet spongy everyone is, how imprecise most weapons feel, etc. But these would be complaints directed at the series as whole and not just Halo 2 specifically. And I guess at the end of the day, I just don't like Halo multiplayer very much. It's taken me three sequels to realize it, but I've finally accepted that Halo has just gone in a direction that I didn't care for.

[Matt Mortem]

See for me the heart of Halo 2 MP was the BR. There were so many things that could be done with it. Be it the "noob combo" or grenade/BR combo or melee BR combo there was so much strategy and fun to be had. Thats why I loved Halo 2 MP

[Spider-Vader]

One thing I hope is that this game brings Halo back to the spotlight.

The main reason why I don't like Reach as much as Halo 3 (my favorite game of all-time), is that no one plays custom games. Custom Games in Halo 3 were so much fun & no one plays them in Reach because most people are playing COD. Don't get me wrong, I love COD. But I miss my damn Custom Games & it's a shame that Reach's wonderful Forge mode is going to waste.

[Master Chief]

I think there are a few communities that do custom games.

[Matt Mortem]

I miss LAN parties. Something really awesome about hooking 7 Xbox's together and playing with your buddies for hours and hours

[PWN3R]

Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

One thing I hope is that this game brings Halo back to the spotlight.

The main reason why I don't like Reach as much as Halo 3 (my favorite game of all-time), is that no one plays custom games. Custom Games in Halo 3 were so much fun & no one plays them in Reach because most people are playing COD. Don't get me wrong, I love COD. But I miss my damn Custom Games & it's a shame that Reach's wonderful Forge mode is going to waste.

Dude, old school custom zombies on Zanzibar was the best ****. Ahhh, the hours wasted.

[Matt Mortem]

Originally Posted by PWN3R

Dude, old school custom zombies on Zanzibar was the best ****. Ahhh, the hours wasted.

oh for sure man. Sooo many memories

[Benstamania]

I dunno, I was NEVER a fan of custom games.

Ever.

Probably never will be.

[Thundercrack85]

The trailer was a bit too short. I know it's a teaser, but it's vague even by Super 8 standards.

[Matt Mortem]

It doesn't come out for another year. It's just an announcement teaser

[Lunar_Wolf]

I didn't even know a Halo 4 was coming anytime soon. This has been a treat.

[Matt Mortem]

I hope they make leveling up more enjoyable in this one too. It is laborious trying to reach the next rank in Reach. I've all but given up on reaching Commander

[Lunar_Wolf]

I didn't enjoy Reach online as much as I did with Halo 3.

[Colossal Spoons]

I didn't care one bit about leveling up. From Halo 1 to Reach, all I've cared about was the campaign.

[Matt Mortem]

I'm addicted to how my Spartan looks so leveling up to get new armor is a must for me. I want more customization options in Halo 4

[Colossal Spoons]

I remember people going nuts for that Hyabusa armor in ODST lol

[Boom]

I like the idea of earning credits to buy armor, but I don't like how the credit system determines your rank. I'd much rather go back to the skill-based ranking system.

But I do want more customization options in Halo 4. And GUNGNIR better come back. I ****ing love that helmet.

[El Bastardo]

Originally Posted by Colossal Spoons

I didn't care one bit about leveling up. From Halo 1 to Reach, all I've cared about was the campaign.

But I like pretty armor too.

[DieSmiling]

Originally Posted by Colossal Spoons

I didn't care one bit about leveling up. From Halo 1 to Reach, all I've cared about was the campaign.

For me, Halo is all about multiplayer. I haven't even finished the campaign for any of them since Halo CE.

[Matt Mortem]

Multiplayer is where Halo really shines. But at the same time I don't want them to put any less work into the campaign. It needs to be stellar on both fronts