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Yes; time to start with a completely fresh slate 46 60.53%
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:22 AM   #101
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Like I said before, I honestly believe that there are both pros and cons towards FC being associated with the previous X Men films in some way.

On one hand it's able to build off of from the Great stuff that fans and the GA have seen.

On another hand, it also brings in restraints in regards to the usage of characters and the timing of events and the knowledge of knowing as to how anticlimactic it all ends.

It really seems like Singer and Vaughn basically went about the same approach that Singer had done with SR, and just took what they felt were the best liberties from the previous films regarding the X Men franchise and subtly ignored any and all events and films that they may have not been satisfied with.

So either they push on with their continuity inconsistencies, or develop some plot device that explains as to why Major Events that took place in the last two films don't fit with what's been established in FC, or create an entirely new modern day X Men film simultaneously that concludes on how both Singer and Vaughn would have wanted for their characters to have ended their journeys.

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Old 06-13-2011, 01:04 PM   #102
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If they rebooted they would have to axe both The Wolverine and X-Men Originseadpool.Not only should Bryan Singer leave but all the producers as well.
Honestly, X-Men Origins: Wolverine is basically it's own continuity now. There is no way to reconcile the presence of Emma Frost and Xavier in that film without pissing all over the X-Men: First Class movie. I'm still dumbfounded people want the new First Class series to try to come up with a bunch of convoluted explanations so it can fit neatly into the trilogy. It doesn't and it shouldn't.

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Old 06-13-2011, 02:06 PM   #103
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Om No it Isn't.All X Films are Ignoring X-Men Origins:Wolverine.The Wolverine Is seperating themselves from Wolverine.X-Men Originseadpool Is totally Ignoring
Wolverine.

First Class Is not a series.It will be lucky to get 140 Million Domesticly.Fox Is move likely
to move on X4 than a first Class sequel.

And once again First Class Is prequel not reboot.Too Many connections and tie Ins to X-Men and X2.A reboot means all other films never happened.

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Old 06-13-2011, 03:05 PM   #104
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Honestly, X-Men Origins: Wolverine is basically it's own continuity now. There is no way to reconcile the presence of Emma Frost and Xavier in that film without pissing all over the X-Men: First Class movie. I'm still dumbfounded people want the new First Class series to try to come up with a bunch of convoluted explanations so it can fit neatly into the trilogy. It doesn't and it shouldn't.
Emma Frost is easy.

She wasn't even *NAMED* in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It's very easy to reconcile her being in X-Men: First Class. I think someone even stated that she wasn't even named Emma Frost in the credits. And she certainly wasn't named Emma Frost in the movie.

As far as Xavier walking, yes that's an inconsistency, but contradicting a one scene cameo is hardly throwing an entire movie out of continuity. That's a reach.

X-Men: First Class -should- fit in with the trilogy, and it does. The connections made are much stronger than any reaches made to disconnect it.

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Old 06-14-2011, 02:57 AM   #105
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She was well used, lol.
No.

Her hair wasn't all violet.

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Old 06-14-2011, 02:58 AM   #106
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Emma Frost is easy.

She wasn't even *NAMED* in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It's very easy to reconcile her being in X-Men: First Class. I think someone even stated that she wasn't even named Emma Frost in the credits. And she certainly wasn't named Emma Frost in the movie.

As far as Xavier walking, yes that's an inconsistency, but contradicting a one scene cameo is hardly throwing an entire movie out of continuity. That's a reach.

X-Men: First Class -should- fit in with the trilogy, and it does. The connections made are much stronger than any reaches made to disconnect it.
Yeah she wasn't named in the movie.

But ughhh they included her in the posters.

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Old 06-14-2011, 03:38 AM   #107
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Yeah she wasn't named in the movie.

But ughhh they included her in the posters.
And Angel was shown in the X-Men uniform for X-Men: The Last Stand promo stuff too, but he wasn't a part of the X-Men.

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Old 06-14-2011, 03:42 AM   #108
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I'm not sure I want First Class to be a reboot. I prefer a reboot to have more of a fresh start, and I would hope, should Fox ever fully reboot the franchise, they give the film more time than 10 or 12 months between hiring a director and the releasing it in theaters. That kind of scheduling drives me crazy, as I think the film suffers for it. Anyway, I really enjoyed First Class, reboot or otherwise.

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It's the one with the weird hair... I'm kidding, the one with the weird purple hair. I think she even had a line.
Are you kidding me lol? Wow what a waste. Was she billed as Psylocke?

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I believe she was.

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Yes she was billed In Credits as Psylock.But In Wolverine Emma was billed as Kayla's sister/Emma/

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FYI magneto gets Emma to mind wipe raven so that she follows magneto and has no qualms about crossing Xavier

That's why she's so cold in x1 and 2
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:16 PM   #113
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Are you kidding me lol? Wow what a waste. Was she billed as Psylocke?
Yes indeedy.

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That's absurd. As cold as Erik could be, I could never see him being that outlandishly cruel to Charles.

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U musta not seen x-men 1 bro
They nearly killed Charles with the cerebro poision

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Are you kidding me lol? Wow what a waste. Was she billed as Psylocke?
Yep. Her role was reduced during production. In the end she was little more than a cameo 'nod' for the fans like the imprisoned mutants in Wolverine. They could easily bring in Psylocke as a main character in another film, even though I'm not sure about having another psychic or how well 'psychic knives' will translate to the screen.

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That's absurd. As cold as Erik could be, I could never see him being that outlandishly cruel to Charles.
That's why we need sequel to First class, so things could be explained as to why Mystique became cold towards Charles, and the disappearance of all the mutants in the movie.

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U musta not seen x-men 1 bro
They nearly killed Charles with the cerebro poision
Ehh... More like knocked him out so he couldn't interfere. There's no reason to assume their tampering with Cerebro would have been anymore dangerous than that.

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I enjoyed First Class but I hate the fact that it's just going to make it harder to make a genuine First Class movie in the future with Iceman, Jean Grey, Cyclops and Angel.

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I enjoyed First Class but I hate the fact that it's just going to make it harder to make a genuine First Class movie in the future with Iceman, Jean Grey, Cyclops and Angel.
How?

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Yep. Her role was reduced during production. In the end she was little more than a cameo 'nod' for the fans like the imprisoned mutants in Wolverine. They could easily bring in Psylocke as a main character in another film, even though I'm not sure about having another psychic or how well 'psychic knives' will translate to the screen.
Psylocke's psychic knives would be memorable in the casual viewers like Wolverine's claws.

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I enjoyed First Class but I hate the fact that it's just going to make it harder to make a genuine First Class movie in the future with Iceman, Jean Grey, Cyclops and Angel.
I think a X-Men team consists of Iceman, Jean Grey, Cyclops, Angel and Beast isn't gonna happen anymore unless they reboot the franchise.

If FOX really wanted to reboot this franchise with First Class, that would have been the team, not with Banshee and Havok.

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Old 07-07-2011, 08:13 AM   #122
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It's a reboot in spirit that's careful enough to avoid any major contradictions to previous films so it can also be taken as a prequel. I went into it for the former.

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I enjoyed First Class but I hate the fact that it's just going to make it harder to make a genuine First Class movie in the future with Iceman, Jean Grey, Cyclops and Angel.
You should have known that was going to be the case the moment they made Iceman a young student at the school, and Angel a wealthy heir in San Francisco.

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Old 07-07-2011, 10:34 AM   #124
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People need to stop this complaining about true First Class.Let me remind people X-Men First Class comics started In 2007.43 years after the first X-Men comics.A film with just the original Lineup Is never going to happen.People need to remember the fact X-Men as the top selling Comic Book didn't beguin untill the new X-Men of Mid 1970's where Cyclops was only original X-Man keep with new X-Men Wolverine,Storm,Colossus,Nightcrawler,and Banshee.If Fox or Marvel were to reboot X-Men It would again like first X-Men film be picking characters from various Lineups over the years.Hell Emma Frost might replace Jean Grey especilly given how long Marvel has keep her dead In the comics.Wolverine and Storm would defently be In the lineup and Angel and Iceman might not make it.And this time there wouldn't be a cameo by Iceman.They might Include beast from the getgo.

And if Marvel were to do It I guarante you some ultimate elements would be used Instead of classic X-Men.

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Yeah just look at The Avengers movie (a Marvel Studios product). Their first line-up isn't that so similar in the comics.

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