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Old 03-05-2013, 04:25 PM   #926
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LOVE Mandarin's image and what they've done with him. The uber-terrorist. Glad they ditched the Fu Manchu and Jet Li imagery from the comics; those stereotypes definitely don't belong in the 21st century.

Also, Mandarin's background has been personally revealed right here on the SHH front page by Feige himself. Pretty spoilery stuff there, so read at your own risk.

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I like the backstory, though. Mandarin is an ex-agent --- wonder if they'll specify CIA or SHIELD or something else --- who had an attack of conscience, so to speak, and went all Col. Kurtz. Makes him crazy, crazy scary, and more believable at the same time.
I also like how they're keeping the Chinese influence on the character by having him be a student of Sun Tzu's teachings and obsessed with Chinese imagery.

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Old 03-05-2013, 04:49 PM   #927
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Some possibly relevant Sun Tzu quotes (via wikiquotes):

"If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant."

"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness."

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"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

"Thus, what is of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy's strategy."

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LOVE Mandarin's image and what they've done with him. The uber-terrorist. Glad they ditched the Fu Manchu and Jet Li imagery from the comics; those stereotypes definitely don't belong in the 21st century.

Also, Mandarin's background has been personally revealed right here on the SHH front page by Feige himself. Pretty spoilery stuff there, so read at your own risk.

http://www.superherohype.com/feature...-on-iron-man-3

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
I like the backstory, though. Mandarin is an ex-agent --- wonder if they'll specify CIA or SHIELD or something else --- who had an attack of conscience, so to speak, and went all Col. Kurtz. Makes him crazy, crazy scary, and more believable at the same time.
How is Jet Li a stereotype? Jet Li looks like Jet Li - a modern Chinese man in 2013. So are all Asians stereotypes themselves by virtue of the way they look and their culture?

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As long as he doesn't act like a jive turkey black 70's sterotype.

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Old 03-05-2013, 06:18 PM   #930
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When you look back, the Iron Man trilogy has really been blessed with an amazing ensemble of actors playing the villains:

- Jeff Bridges
- Mickey Rourke
- Sam Rockwell
- Guy Pearce
- Ben Kingsley

Any three of those guys in the same movie would guarantee a watch from me. Add that onto the series regulars of Robert Downey Jr, Gwyneth Paltrow and Don Cheadle, and it really strikes you how high the quality of the casting has been for these films.

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Old 03-05-2013, 07:06 PM   #931
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How is Jet Li a stereotype? Jet Li looks like Jet Li - a modern Chinese man in 2013. So are all Asians stereotypes themselves by virtue of the way they look and their culture?
I meant Jet Li as a tong lord/triad crime boss stereotype; and not trying to single him out specifically, just that the character template has been abused since the early 90s. Settle down, Beavis.

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why is he in love with Captain America? Will they touch on his romantic desires for the American Captain? He has part of the shield in a poster I remember and even a tattoo of him on his neck or chest I believe

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I'd still like to know what happened to Justin Hammer, if he did in fact go to prison or what.

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So does the Mandarin tell Coldblood what to do? Seems like Mandarin sits behind the scenes and has other people, do the dirty work for him.

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Does anyone think The Mandarin is just kind of coming across as a little "meh" based on the latest trailer? I was a lot more impressed with him in the first trailer that was released.

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why is he in love with Captain America? Will they touch on his romantic desires for the American Captain? He has part of the shield in a poster I remember and even a tattoo of him on his neck or chest I believe
Mandarin uses that tattoo to infiltrate Tony's home and sabotage his suit by tricking Happy into thinking he's a fan of the Avengers.

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I don't.

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With Kingsley as the Mandarin I think there is the real potential for this series to have a truly iconic villain. Jeff Bridges was good for what he was in the first film, especially with the Iron Monger suit, but Mickey Rourke was wasted as Whiplash. But the Mandarin is the first really strong antagonist that can be placed alongside the greats in film.

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I wish they could have kept Bridges around for awhile before his inevitable betrayal. His suicide in the comics was memorable as hell.

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why is he in love with Captain America? Will they touch on his romantic desires for the American Captain? He has part of the shield in a poster I remember and even a tattoo of him on his neck or chest I believe

He's being ironic, and sardonic, even.
Mandarin hates America, and he likes to use American iconography to insult and ridicule them. You know, like most of the rest of the world does.

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I'd still like to know what happened to Justin Hammer, if he did in fact go to prison or what.
In the IM3 prequel comic, Tony mentions Justin still doing time, and the company going under. (But there's still some useless Hammer tech that the US had in the field that Ten Rings terrorists have been stealing. Don't know if any of that is touched on in the movie, though.)

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Wow, I didn't know that happened. That's pretty dark for what is essentially a Disney movie, but I really would have liked to see that.

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Wow, I didn't know that happened. That's pretty dark for what is essentially a Disney movie, but I really would have liked to see that.
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I'd still like to know what happened to Justin Hammer, if he did in fact go to prison or what.
Yeah, Sam Rockwell was probably my favourite part of Iron Man 2. I guess there just wasn't a role for Justin Hammer in this film. But perhaps he can show up in a Masters of Evil team up down the line...

"Woah, I'm not EVIL, per se.... just.... morally unscrupulous."

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Mid 80s Silver centurion/Armor Wars Iron Man stories was one of my favourite eras.

If Justin Hammer ever comes back I hope he is alot more ruthless.

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Yeah, Sam Rockwell was probably my favourite part of Iron Man 2. I guess there just wasn't a role for Justin Hammer in this film. But perhaps he can show up in a Masters of Evil team up down the line...

"Woah, I'm not EVIL, per se.... just.... morally unscrupulous."
I'd rather see mandarin in the masters of evil, but I would love it if they do make iron man 4 and have hammer get out of jail seeking revenge.

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I hope they keep Mandarin alive so he can return for "The Masters Of Evil" alongside Loki, Red Skull etc...
He definitely needs to survive...part of what it means to be a someone's arch-nemesis is that they just can't get rid of you.

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Mandarin uses that tattoo to infiltrate Tony's home and sabotage his suit by tricking Happy into thinking he's a fan of the Avengers.


I don't.
I hope you're joking about that spoiler. That sounds stupid.

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More "spoilers" on /co/. Probably just ****posting after seeing the new trailer, but if its true
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i wonder if Ezekiel Stane will ever show up.

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Ezekiel wouldnt be a bad Followup to The Mandarin actually.

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