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Old 01-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #626
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The B&R score is just a rehash of BF but much much worse.

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While it contains alot of re-hashed material, it's actually quite different.

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While it contains alot of re-hashed material, it's actually quite different.

Youre right. Its very similar, sure, but if you listen, there was alot of changed made to distinguish the 2.

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Old 01-04-2012, 06:45 PM   #629
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Well im not B&R bashing but was any of it really any kind of improvement?

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^Not really IMO, I still prefer Forever's score over B&R, even the Batman main theme sounded quite different (like they added more horns to the B&R version or something like that).

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GOTHAM CITY SPECIAL!!! To celebrate the release of BATMAN FOREVER, the folowing BATMAN titles are on sale through 1/13/12. Danny Elfman's BATMAN and BATMAN RETURNS are $24.98 each. Shirley Walker's BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM and Nelson Riddle's BATMAN 1966 are $9.99 each.
BTW, according to the owner of LLLR Batman and Batman Returns are down to 350 copies. So if you've been holding off on both now's a good time to get 'em.

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That track alone should answer that. I adore that cue, too bad it sounds epic for a scene in a movie that...well, isn't.

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Well im not B&R bashing but was any of it really any kind of improvement?
Considerably. New themes for Freeze, Ivy and for Freeze's wife, although I understand the latter Goldenthal roped off from another score.

Either way I find B&R's score to be much superior in scope, it's as loud and even obnoxious as the movie, but it makes for a very entertaining listen.

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I guess if someday im super bored and lonely ill check it out.

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After watching it again last night, I changed my mind. BF is steaming hot garbage.

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After watching it again last night, I changed my mind. BF is steaming hot garbage.
Watched it 2 days ago trying to give it a chance. The action's good but damn, as bad as I remembered it. Just a colorful superhero movie, nothing really original or unique and its just not Batman to me. Just a flowing cape type of a superhero. The bits with parents are good but as many people mentioned already, Kilmer has no expresions or any variety of emotions at all. hes just sad and needing a hug all the time, in and out of the suit

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I don't think Kilmer is completely wooden. I mean, of course he's sad it's part of his progression for the movie. I know the movie and Kilmer aren't the greatest but I like how in the beginning Bruce/Batman is kind of this simple cookie cutter "superhero". Then he starts getting these obsessive, riddles, witnesses and event that acts as a catalyst for remembering his own parents death. During these events, he kind of just mopes around.

But then there's this sort of shift in character after he wakes up from being unconscious, like he's literally awaken. I don't know, like he's becoming a "better" Batman. I know by the third act it's a little too late but I like the bits of outwitting Nygma, choosing to save both Chase and Robin and then that little explanation he gives the Riddler about being Batman and Bruce. Then that sort of, acceptance at the end outside of the Asylum gate.

I'm not particularly fond of Batman Forever and I haven't seen it in a few years but I would say it's decent. It's literally smack dab in between the Burton and Nolan films and yet, isn't nearly as bad as Batman and Robin. For me, it's a teeny bit better than "meh". It's a little serious, a little fun, has some nice moments, a nice score. Nothing too offensive just, okay. I guess it did what it needed to in '95 but I'm not sure if I'd have a desire to ever see it again or analyze it.

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After watching it again last night, I changed my mind. BF is steaming hot garbage.
Thats quite a revelation to say the least, maybe I should rewatch it myself.

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I ordered this... while not my favorite Batman score, the music is ingrained in my memory from childhood so it deserves a place in my collection.

But what La La Land really need to release is Batman: The Animated Series - Volume 2. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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I'm sure to watch BF at least once a week to keep myself sane.

It's as sweet as cocaine and nearly as deadly.

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Back in the 90s, whenever I got home drunk and wanted to wind down with a bit of tea and toast before going to bed, I'd always stick on the opening sequence to BF, I don't know how many times I've watched that scene, hundreds and hundreds, but I'm still not bored of it at all, it's a frickin great live action Batman sequence.

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...you're British and you wind down with "a bit of tea and toast"?

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I ordered this... while not my favorite Batman score, the music is ingrained in my memory from childhood so it deserves a place in my collection.

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Tell me about it; it's been almost 3 years already. What gives LLR?!?

I never was able to get the Phantasm and '66 TV show ones though so that sale for each at $10 sounds pretty sweet and right up my alley. I think I'll go do that now. I've always wanted the BF one too but it came at the wrong time cause I don't have the disposable cash to just go ahead and buy it at it's full price right now. I'm gonna have to wait a couple of months.

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Your drunk... and you then ''wind down'' with a bit of tea and toast.

That has got to be one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've read in a long time.

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It's just so British.

It'd be like an American saying they're going to go grab a bear, and watch some football while sitting on their John Deer riding mower.

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I'm British and i wind down by having a beer

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I never got the impression that posters were "bashing" '89 Batman. People, including myself, were just pointing out what they felt were flaws in the story. Whether the movie takes place in the real world or fantasy land, Joker holding a parade after doing the crap he did is complete nonsense. It's cool if folks disagree but I hope the thread dials down the snark.
Why is it nonsense? Because it's unrealistic? It's supposed to be unrealistic. Satire often makes things completely ridiculous to get the point across.

I mean Animal Farm is one of the greatest pieces of satire ever written.

It's a book about talking farm animals who create a government...

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Why is it nonsense? Because it's unrealistic? It's supposed to be unrealistic. Satire often makes things completely ridiculous to get the point across.

I mean Animal Farm is one of the greatest pieces of satire ever written.

It's a book about talking farm animals who create a government...
I never considered '89 Batman a satire. To me it's just a fun movie that has a iffy 3rd act since no one except Batman bothers to stop the murderous clown from doing God-knows-what to the city.

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No, it definitely is a satire.

But it's done so sublimely, I'm not surprised you didn't notice.

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Either way doesn't change my opinion regarding the parade scene.

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