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Old 12-08-2011, 04:36 PM   #251
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I'd like to know the answer to this, anyone know?
Read my last response couple posts up. Now I'm not Nostradamus, but I feel that the most logical explanation.


You know news is slow when you google "Man of Steel" and the Prime Minister of New Guinea pops up!

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Old 12-08-2011, 04:45 PM   #252
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During SR, we were constantly in the loop during shooting because were were getting behind-the-scenes video journals from Singer on an almost weekly basis (the same ones Peter Jackson is known for a la LOTR/King Kong/The Hobbit).

There's a part of me that wished Snyder did this as-well with the updates (like a kid wanting his present before X-Mas), but then there's a part of me that just wants to be totally surprised.


This slow news is getting me butt hurt, it's really starting to hurt

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Old 12-08-2011, 08:36 PM   #253
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Read my last response couple posts up. Now I'm not Nostradamus, but I feel that the most logical explanation.


You know news is slow when you google "Man of Steel" and the Prime Minister of New Guinea pops up!
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:50 AM   #254
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This slow news is getting me butt hurt, it's really starting to hurt
Really, really is

Do you think if we sent a letter begging for some info, Zack might give us a scrap?

Or would he see it as a 'don't feed the dogs, you'll only make them more ravenous' scenario

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One thing that I hope we're able to avoid and dodge is the issue of who should be truly credited or blamed for the success or failure that MOS may be when it's finally released.

i've read posts talking about this very issue, on how it may be possible that if MOS turns out to be a success that Nolan will mainly get the praise for having restored Superman back to the big screen, whereas if the film were to fail, then it'd b Snyder who'd take the bullet.

I hope both are credited equally for MOS, regardless of how it may turn out in the end.

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I hope Goyer and Snyder get all the credit. I hope Nolan gets a nod of thanks for helping it happen, but he's clearly washed his hands of it since giving it to Snyder and I've not seen him say anything that indicates that he wants to be creatively involved.

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I hope Goyer and Snyder get all the credit. I hope Nolan gets a nod of thanks for helping it happen, but he's clearly washed his hands of it since giving it to Snyder and I've not seen him say anything that indicates that he wants to be creatively involved.
Agree with this, Nolan deserves some credit but Goyer and Snyder should get most of it. If its a great film Snyder really should get the plaudits but you can guarantee if it is Nolan will get all the credit. This isn't a knock on Nolan I appreciate what he's done for Superman by bringing this to the studio and so forth but its annoying when people give him credit for stuff that he's barely involved in.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nolan also help plan out on how the story for MOS would be like?

In any case, I hope that Snyder/Goyer/Nolan (assuming if he was involved in writing the story as well) are able to work well with each other and bring out the best in each other like how Singer and Vaughn did for X:FC imho.

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Agree with this, Nolan deserves some credit but Goyer and Snyder should get most of it. If its a great film Snyder really should get the plaudits but you can guarantee if it is Nolan will get all the credit. This isn't a knock on Nolan I appreciate what he's done for Superman by bringing this to the studio and so forth but its annoying when people give him credit for stuff that he's barely involved in.
Agreed. It's basically a case of Nolanites being quite intense...

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nolan also help plan out on how the story for MOS would be like?

In any case, I hope that Snyder/Goyer/Nolan (assuming if he was involved in writing the story as well) are able to work well with each other and bring out the best in each other like how Singer and Vaughn did for X:FC imho.
As I understood it, Goyer came to Nolan with an idea for a Superman film, Nolan thought it was a great idea and they sort of worked out the kinks together before pitching it. Then Goyer wrote the script and they found a director to handle it.

I mean, there will be an element of Nolan in there I guess, but he's basically not done any of the hard work.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nolan also help plan out on how the story for MOS would be like?

In any case, I hope that Snyder/Goyer/Nolan (assuming if he was involved in writing the story as well) are able to work well with each other and bring out the best in each other like how Singer and Vaughn did for X:FC imho.
I agree with that but what me and hopeful suicide were getting at was how we don't want all the credit to go to Chris Nolan if the film is good as Snyder and Goyer have done alot of work.

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Didn't Jonathan Nolan extensively rewrite the script?

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Didn't Jonathan Nolan extensively rewrite the script?
I remember reading that Snyder pulled in Kurt Johnstad and Jonah Nolan 'took a pass at it too'.

So yeah, I guess they should get a bit of cred too. At least as much as Nolan.

But my point was, this is Goyers idea, this is Goyer's 'baby' if you will in my eyes, and Snyder is the man delivering that baby and showing it to the world.

Those guys deserve the pat on the back when it turns out to be an incredible combination of idea and vision.

And yes, I said WHEN. Not IF

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I remember reading that Snyder pulled in Kurt Johnstad and Jonah Nolan 'took a pass at it too'.

So yeah, I guess they should get a bit of cred too. At least as much as Nolan.

But my point was, this is Goyers idea, this is Goyer's 'baby' if you will in my eyes, and Snyder is the man delivering that baby and showing it to the world.

Those guys deserve the pat on the back when it turns out to be an incredible combination of idea and vision.

And yes, I said WHEN. Not IF
If.

I mean, seriously I have my share of doubts when it's about Goyer and Snyder. And I said doubts, not certainties.

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If.

I mean, seriously I have my share of doubts when it's about Goyer and Snyder. And I said doubts, not certainties.
See the tongue out smiley?

That means it was a joke, a little tongue in cheek insistance that the movie WILL be good, so help me...

Of course it could go wrong, I just don't want to discuss the possibility much. It'd be too depressing.

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Well I do agree that if this film does turn out to be a success (which I'm hoping it does) that Snyder and Goyer should get their credit and respective praise.

However, I do hope that for the remainder, or at least, for a majority of the franchise that Goyer and Nolan collaborate with each other in terms of the storylines because I have not seen anything from Snyder that has proven that he is an effective storyteller as of yet.. at least, not on par with Goyer and Nolan.

I mean, I remember reading that Nolan and Emma had to meet with Snyder and his wife in order to sell him on Goyer's concept/take on Superman as well.

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Any word on what sort of camera/format he's filming this on? Are they going 3D?

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I hear IMAX, but I'm just not sure.

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The last word from Snyder was he was experimenting on a 3D method using film. I've heard nothing about IMAX.

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Im reposting this.
As far as i know we have't heard anything on whether they succeeded and/or whether this movie is (partially) being shot in IMAX.

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N: I imagine you envision this bar in three dimensions...?

Z: Will "Superman: Man of Steel" be shot in 3D is a subject soon to be revealed. We are conducting certain experiment, which will determine the technology we'll be using.

N: Now you have to tell me more about this technology experiment! You just have to!

Z: Ok, but remember it's all in a testing phase. If it works, our "Superman" will blew Hollywood away. 3D is not James Cameron's invention, even though I'm sure he thinks otherwise. 3D movies were massively produced back in the 50's. However, visual effects were kinda modest at the time. So I came up with an idea, that Chris has found very interesting. I want to improve this old 3D technique and shoot our movie in 3D, but on a regular film reel. My visit to London interrupted this experiment for a while, but we are close to achieve what Cameron did in "Avatar" but without computers and digital cameras. I want my movie to look natural, to have this organic tape graininess. I don't want every shot to be color-corrected, digital cameras tend to lose focus. If we succeed, it will be the first professional 3D movie shot on regular cameras. And that will be total revolution.

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I like the sound of 'total revolution' and MOS one day being in the same sentance together

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Sounds like a two-camera film rig. Maybe there's a new setup to the rigs that allow a wider choice of lenses...that's a major downer no the available techniques these days, digital or otherwise. Going with celluloid does make it tougher technically with checking parallax and faithful video feeds, along with a lot of other things. Rig-wise, you have pretty-much have to have the actual camera bodies right there connected to the lenses, too...and you can't really miniaturize that stuff. Unlike digital, you also can't exactly 'transmit' the image to a separate housing/location for it to be recorded o tape or hard-disk. The celluloid has to be right there.

Maybe....and this is going out on a limb...there is some new technology that incorporates 'real-time' film-scanning, with a super high-resolution digital sensor and transmitting the signal, then 'printing' it to celluloid somewhere else...and they're experimenting to see how faithful that image is to actually having the film on the physical focal point and still getting the image benefits of celluloid capture. From the sounds of it, they are trying something that a more 'traditional' two-camera 90-degree rig (which is also extremely bulky and temperamental) can't get them.

But this sounds very intriguing. Expensive as hell...but interesting. I wonder if this 'experiment' doesn't pan out, that they'll have to reshoot stuff.

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I'm intrigued.

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Eh. Not sure how good of an idea it is to experiment on a movie that needs the primary focus to be on bringing us a great Superman movie.

Leave the experimenting on camera stuff for the sequel.

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That's what I mean, though....did the experiments have a contingency plan in which the footage would work fine as 'regular' 2D if the 3D 'experiment' was abandoned or didn't turn out too well?

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Clearly a dual-lens rig/monitoring for 3D.

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