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Same here mate, tbh depending on my mood I tend to always prefer one to the other but they're both amazing films.
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The thing is as an aspiring screenwriter both films present qualities that are worth admiring, since there's different aspects they bring to the table.
Personally I'd have liked to see Goyer contribute to the script for The Dark Knight Rises just so that it bookends the trilogy nicely, but I guess he was more needed for The Man of Steel. That being said, I'll admit most of Goyer's work outside of Batman Begins, Blade and Dark City isn't worth mentioning.
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Blade, Blade II and Dark City were very well written, though admittedly Blade and Blade II haven't aged very well.
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Well I dont really care much for Blade II but I still like the first Blade. I haven't seen Dark City for years so you might be right.
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Dark City is amazing. It's aged fine.
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It has indeed. I don't think the Blade series has. Just like the first Spiderman film. These films just feel off now.
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On movies with multiple writers, it’s very hard to determine who contributed what. The best you can do is try to spot trends over several films. So... compare Nolan’s work against Goyer’s (separate) stuff - and see where the quality has a tendency to follow. |
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Goyer was (only) one of three writers on that movie, no?
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Goyer was brought into Dark City by New Line to "make it less weird."
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At no point in TDK do I feel emotional. The whole film has you intrigued in this psychological and philosophical way that almost makes you detatch from the characters. Even when Rachel dies, you don't really feel the weight of her death... just the weight of what it sets into motion, like it's a move in a game of chess. In BB, there were a lot more instances in which I could actually see the main characters on an emotional level.
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I want to care about Superman and have an emotional reaction if he's in trouble, or succeeding.
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I think that Superman should have way more heart and be a far more sentimental film than TDK. |
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Let's not forget that despite the critical success that the Nolans and Goyer helped bring to the current Batman franchise, that they did add/change/modify certain things of the Batman canon; so we should expect the same for Superman as well.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Batman ever having studied under Ra's prior before becoming Batman; Joker's white face paint was self induced, along with his smile, and his origins had nothing to do with Batman, Harvey was supposedly great friends with Bruce in the comics but not so much in the film... So my point is that, I hope that we're all ready for the changes that they'll bring to the well known canon. |
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It sounds as if Goyer did the first past, Jonah did the re-write, and now Snyder is having his boy Johnstad re-write Jonah Nolan.
Frankly, I'd have trusted in the team that gave us Batman Begins and Dark Knight rather than continuing to tweak something. Writing is one of those things you can screw up with too many people doing it...
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I think the script will be fine ad long as Berlanti and his Green Lantern writing team don't touch Superman with their hack hands.
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Hopefully the rewrites is done by the time the movie stars filming.
I just don't like the idea of tweaking the script while the movie is shooting, although the script for X-Men: First Class was tweaked during filming and it turned out well, but I just want to be on the safe side and hoping that the re-writes is done before Man of Steel starts filming. Last edited by Sgt.Pepper; 07-19-2011 at 05:35 AM. |
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Maybe they're tweaking action sequences. :P
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That would be awesome
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