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I mean, I know it's there to indicate how much he's changed since he first gave that hobo his coat, but it just comes off sounding weird from Batman. The rest of them I think are very well placed and effective.
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Puns and one-liners are something of a staple in many action movies – and they’re certainly not uncommon to the superhero genre. Imo, they’re over-used and if that’s your general complaint then I’m with you. But you seem to single out the “Can you drive stick?” line as especially cringe-worthy. In the grand scheme, I don’t think it is. Basically, you can take or leave its humor; the line, itself, efficiently conveys (in four words) important information: Batman expects Gordon to drive the Tumbler.
In thinking about bad one-liners, I’d put “Bad vibrations?” from STM or any number of “jokes” from BF or B&R well ahead of anything uttered in BB. Generally, I think Nolan was getting his footing with BB and he resorted to the one-liners as safe, genre expectation. By TDK, he was much more assured and the “jokes” were dialed back and more context appropriate. Quote:
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But yes, I think I mentioned the scene of little Bruce and the Wayne on the monorail scene as poor writing. |
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Did anyone else notice on the news release regarding MOS release date being pushed back to Summer 2013, that it stated the script is written by David Goyer AND Jonathan Nolan?
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Jonah had a pass at this thing a while ago and essentially saved the project. I thought this was common knowledge. If it weren't for him, this thing would've been in big trouble. The fact that Johnstad is contributing is a big positive as well.
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I agree Gill. By pushing the release date back to summer 2013, MOS can be a true summer tentpole now. No rushing this baby. They all want to make sure they get this puppy done right. The big cheese Chris Nolan, should be available for the 2nd half of principal shooting for MOS and he should be available to oversee the post work and editing process. ![]() Johnstad's script for The Last Photograph is said to be very good by the way. |
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It’s not at all surprising that the younger Nolan might have consulted/brainstormed on the MOS script with his brother and Goyer. But earning a co-writer’s credit – according to the WGA – requires a significant contribution. I’m skeptical that J. Nolan was involved to that degree. I’d love to be proven wrong, though. Having J. Nolan on board would be a definite plus. |
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If it's bad, Goyer will be blamed. If it's good it'll be because of J Nolan's contribution. Apparently the sun shines out of the Nolan's behinds ![]() Personally, if this movie rocks as much as I think it will, I'm gonna be thinking the sun shines out of Snyder and Goyers ![]()
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every time i hear the "have a nice trip, see you next fall" line from tdk i think stfffuuuu
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Cheesy one-liners and puns are great when balanced and well written. Something both BB and TDK do for me. The master of great cheesy one-liners though is James Cameron, I love it.
They belong in movies like this. I almost hate comic-book movies that are no fun just as much as those who are too silly. Balance is the key. |
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The masters of cheesy one liners are the writers of CSI Miami. More concretely whoever is responsible for the Horatio Caine character...
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I've seen the movie several times; but I don't recall that line. Can you refresh my memory with a scene description?
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Folks, we just need to succumb to the fact that every line in every movie ever made was cringeworthy.
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The article on the front page reprints the listed credits from ComingSoon.net. And ComingSoon.net offers no link to a studio press release. Are they reliable? |
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The likes of SHH/CS (and others) are all fairly reputable. I'd trust it for now. |
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I believe it was Variety that broke the story of MOS’s new release date - via a Tweet and subsequently confirmed in an article last Thursday. Perfect chance to update readers on the additional fact that J. Nolan is now a credited co-writer. Instead, it reported that: “David Goyer penned the script and developed the story with Christopher Nolan, who has kept plot details under wraps. Charles Roven will produce along with Emma Thomas, Nolan and Deborah Snyder. Thomas Tull will exec produce for legendary and Lloyd Philips will also exec produce." (The article is obscured by a funky, “grey screen” pay wall. But it’s readable. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118040224 ) Like I said, I’d be more than pleased if J. Nolan was involved enough to warrant a co-screenwriting credit. I’m just skeptical that he is. Last edited by Dr.; 07-22-2011 at 04:22 PM. |
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Anyways, the important thing in this case wouldn't be if the movie's good or bad but why it's good or bad. Then we might give the credit where it's due. I just hope people are compassionate enough so no one sticks a spear into his side while he's still dying. Hollywood is cerainly full of martyrs. So he wrote some awful one-liners. I confess I loathe him for that. But god, please let him survive this agony of being criticized by people because Jonah Nolan wrote better dialogues ofor BB sequel. |
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He "significantly" saved the project, and thus is now officially a co-writer. As a matter of fact, he was officially a co-writer a long time ago when Goyer was beating his head against the wall trying to figure out the 3rd act. It's had its problems. But again, this is absolutely fantastic news that Johnstad is getting in on this. Between him and Jonah, I have no doubt this will be a fantastic film. Someone else mentioned that the new release date will give Chris more time to participate and help oversee the finished product. This is absolutely true. Again, more great news. How people aren't doing backflips and cartwheels right now is beyond me. Between the stellar cast, the news of Johnstad helping to do some punch ups, and Chris being able to be a bit more involved, there's nothing but positive things happening with this project. It's a good time to be a Superman fan. Now, let's just hope this place doesn't explode when they finally release a promo shot of the suit...
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As it happens, I have been keeping tabs on most of the MOS updates. For instance, I heard about Connie Nielsen being rumored for the role of Lara – subsequently changed to a Julia Ormond rumor. So I’m more than just a casual observer. Additionally, I’ve been concerned about Goyer as a solo writer on MOS. I’d be much happier if one (or both) of the Brothers Nolan was more deeply involved with the screenplay. So you could say that my antennae was especially sensitive to any hints that this might be the case. But as far as I could tell, both Nolans were firmly committed to TDKR. Your personal assurance that J. Nolan has “significantly saved the project” is appreciated. But you could thoroughly vanquish the skepticism I still harbor with a link to a source like Variety or Deadline. ![]() |
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It's Gill, he has been one of or most reliable sources since the Begins days, and never has lead us astray, he's been a good source with always reliable information.
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When was this line said?
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