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Old 07-24-2011, 11:37 PM   #51
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I think that would have been more meaningful in this movie...it has no bearing on the avengers.
Yes it does. Because Cap will have a character arc in Avengers. He won't just be in the movie. His arc will be coming to terms with what happened to him. Thus, it VERY MUCH has bearing on Avengers.

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Old 07-24-2011, 11:47 PM   #52
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Yes it does. Because Cap will have a character arc in Avengers. He won't just be in the movie. His arc will be coming to terms with what happened to him. Thus, it VERY MUCH has bearing on Avengers.
Is there any confirmation that this will be touched upon in the Avengers? All I've heard so far is that Righetti might be playing Sharon Carter and that her role in the Avengers might be to help Steve adjust to being frozen for 70 years and losing everyone. I certainly hope they do but they already have so much to juggle in the story.

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Old 07-24-2011, 11:48 PM   #53
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Is there any confirmation that this will be touched upon in the Avengers? All I've heard so far is that Righetti might be playing Sharon Carter and that her role in the Avengers might be to help Steve adjust to being frozen for 70 years and losing everyone. I certainly hope they do but they already have so much to juggle in the story.
Even if they don't, we're prob getting a Captain America 2. They can do that in Cap 2, if they so choose. Also, Sharon Carter possibly being in Avengers would tell me it WILL be touched upon.

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Old 07-24-2011, 11:52 PM   #54
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Even if they don't, we're prob getting a Captain America 2. They can do that in Cap 2, if they so choose. Also, Sharon Carter possibly being in Avengers would tell me it WILL be touched upon.
I see. I'm guessing we'll see snippets of it with Steve/Sharon talking or sharing a few moments. But the world is in danger and Cap is gonna push aside his issues for now to go save the world because that's the guy he is.

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The scene in the Avengers trailer with Steve and Fury indicates to me that Cap will be dealing with adjusting to the new time period. Out of all the Avengers, I think he'll be the one with the best character arc.

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Yeah, I agree. That would be better than cramming in some entirely new scene of him "dealing" with it, and would give a sense of the great scope of the change that he's been instantly thrown into the middle of.
Since you have an opinion also I guess this applies to you as well.

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Old 07-25-2011, 01:40 AM   #57
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Well, they only had one movie. It would have been better if they had done more than one, but they simply didn't have the time.

They could have used the beginning as the ending (or a scene like it). But that would have left a lot of people unsatisfied as well.

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Old 07-25-2011, 05:17 AM   #58
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Since you have an opinion also I guess this applies to you as well.
I don't see how that factors in.

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Old 07-25-2011, 05:29 AM   #59
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Anyone else get the feeling that the film was originally meant to close off at the scene where we see the kids running around the streets in the 40's with trash can lids painted as CA's Shield?

Since the scene in Modern Day New York was NOT filmed by Joe but instead by Whedon, I'm thinking that originally, the post credit scene was meant to be Steve waking up, but somewhere along the middle, they decided to have the post credit scene be a Avengers Teaser instead.

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Old 07-25-2011, 06:48 AM   #60
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They keep saying it was shot by Whedon, yet Joe was on set, right next to them; I don't get it.

Maybe it's too simplistic of an idea, but what would have been great is if right after he said the "date" line, there was cut to an older Peggy reminiscing over the photo she had from the dossier she kept. It would have given the same type of pulling at the heart strings as the ending to the dog episode in Futurama does.

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Old 07-25-2011, 06:52 AM   #61
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They keep saying it was shot by Whedon, yet Joe was on set, right next to them; I don't get it.

Maybe it's too simplistic of an idea, but what would have been great is if right after he said the "date" line, there was cut to an older Peggy reminiscing over the photo she had from the dossier she kept. It would have given the same type of pulling at the heart strings as the ending to the dog episode in Futurama does.
I guess, like Thor did, they want to keep the full resolution for closure in regards to the Hero's love interest saved for their respective sequels.

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It reminded me of the end of Thor (where he doesn't get the girl) which reminded me of the end of Spider-Man (where he doesn't get the girl.)

In fact, if this movie has a failing, is that it reminded me of too many other comic-book movies.

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Old 07-25-2011, 09:45 AM   #63
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Anyone else get the feeling that the film was originally meant to close off at the scene where we see the kids running around the streets in the 40's with trash can lids painted as CA's Shield?

Since the scene in Modern Day New York was NOT filmed by Joe but instead by Whedon, I'm thinking that originally, the post credit scene was meant to be Steve waking up, but somewhere along the middle, they decided to have the post credit scene be a Avengers Teaser instead.

Hmm. You're right. Ending with that kid in the 40's would have sucked though. Maybe test audiences told them that. I thought it was going to end there and I would have been pretty disappointed. However, the Times Square scene would have been a hell of a post credit tag. It's true, Fury usually shows up after the credits.

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It reminded me of the end of Thor (where he doesn't get the girl) which reminded me of the end of Spider-Man (where he doesn't get the girl.)

In fact, if this movie has a failing, is that it reminded me of too many other comic-book movies.
The difference between CA's ending and the films that you just mentioned is that:

1. Thor ended on a hopeful note; implying that Thor would find his way back to GET his "girl".

2. It was Peter's own choice to NOT get the girl due to his faulty logic.

Steve never had a chance to properly start a real romance with Peggy, and by the time he does, he gets frozen and put into a 70 year sleep, so by the time he wakes up, Peggy is either very old or dead already, thus eliminating any chance that he had with her. That, and Steve's romance with Peggy felt more organic and Peggy didn't come off as poorly as MJ does as a character.

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I love the last line "I had a date" because it wasn't just about Peggy, it was about his whole life. Awesome line.

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Old 07-25-2011, 12:16 PM   #66
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Anyone else get the feeling that the film was originally meant to close off at the scene where we see the kids running around the streets in the 40's with trash can lids painted as CA's Shield?

Since the scene in Modern Day New York was NOT filmed by Joe but instead by Whedon, I'm thinking that originally, the post credit scene was meant to be Steve waking up, but somewhere along the middle, they decided to have the post credit scene be a Avengers Teaser instead.
It was filmed by JJ. He was there on set. The film was supposed to end where it did. It was supposed to introduce the modern day element. Not expand upon it.

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Old 07-25-2011, 02:53 PM   #67
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I thought it was a good ending...almost no one stayed after the credits.

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Old 07-25-2011, 08:02 PM   #70
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Don't worry, I got an infraction for that. But I learned my lesson.

Turns out, the only real 'ron here.. was me.

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I thought it was a cool cliffhanger ending befitting the movie's serial heritage. And Chris sold the hell out of it too.

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I was a little surprised with the abrupt ending, but that last line really weighs on you. That's probably the moment I've thought about most since watching it today.

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I loved the last line, but it really needed more time to breath. Or, at the very least, we needed some far less triumphant music to play right after it.

Strange choices were made transitioning into those credits...

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All the sequels will be in present time?

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I hope not. I really want to see his missions with the Commandos more fleshed out, as there is a lot of time to work with.

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