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Old 08-02-2011, 09:37 AM   #101
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I hated that Steve was never shown being unfrozen. I was really looking foward to a scene with Steve in bed with wires and breathing tubes hooked up to him, surrounded by SHIELD doctors and scientists trying to see if is still alive, they just jumped past too much there in that last scene. He didnt even seem to be in a very secure location, he just gets up, shoves some guys down and walks out the front door? SHIELD is supposed to be a super secret organization and you just let Captain America walk out the door, not that big a deal I guess but that scene just rubbed me the wrong way.

ANOTHER ISSUE I HAD!!! I'm really hoping the Avengers will show flashes of that.

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Old 08-02-2011, 09:42 AM   #102
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Glad I'm not the only one that felt this. This movie was superb, had the best emotional core out of any of Marvel Studios films, I loved it. But right at the end, they could have had something that just made it all the more powerful.

Showing Capt frozen, and have a montage of a passage of time, all that he loves and who he loves is going away and he is being left behind. That is so core to the character later on, I really felt like what the hell? Why did they not have a scene like that? It would have been emotionally sad but satisfying. And the cut to the end, going from a sad line, and putting in triumphal music a split second later was really awkward. Still loved the film, just the ending and what could have been kinda made it a little less than what it could have been.,

Instead of the boxing practice scene at the closing scene....we already know he can fight!! How about him sitting on the side of his bed going through his army footlocker (I'm sure it was in storage somewhere) looking at photos.....eyes watering up....etc.....then Fury walks in to say that he still needs a Capt America.....

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Old 08-02-2011, 09:43 AM   #103
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I prefer subtlety to the grand emoting of a massive Noooooooooooooooooooo!

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Old 08-02-2011, 09:46 AM   #104
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I prefer subtlety to the grand emoting of a massive Noooooooooooooooooooo!
I agree...thus the footlocker scene would have worked really well....

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I prefer subtlety to the grand emoting of a massive Noooooooooooooooooooo!
, So,you didnt like the Darth Vader scene at the end of Episode Three?

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Old 08-02-2011, 10:23 AM   #106
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"Did we win the War??"

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Old 08-02-2011, 10:23 AM   #107
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The boxing scene is from The Avengers,I am not going to judge another film until I see it .

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Old 08-02-2011, 10:25 AM   #108
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"Did we win the War??"
I would assume that question is answered by the the thriving Times Square Cap is standing in the middle of , without a swastika in sight.

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Old 08-02-2011, 10:51 AM   #109
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That's a joke, right?
UMMMM did you watch Spider-man? the last scene was Peter visiting Ben's grave, made his responsibility speech about what his future will be........ and the hero shot. They should have done that kind of scene with Captain America

- Rogers visits Peggy's grave
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- Makes a promise to her about what he stands for and what he believes in doing with his abilities.
- He stands up, as the sun sets or rises depending on the visual look, with this music playing in the background
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The last shot, just as the music ends, is him rotating the shield to his back as the camera focuses on his shield.

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Old 08-02-2011, 11:28 AM   #110
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That's a joke, right?



Level 1: I had a date with Peggy.

Level 2: ?
I had a date = lost love
I had a date = literally the era he was from.
That's just me tho.

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Old 08-02-2011, 11:44 AM   #111
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Level 2: Everyone and everything I knew and loved is gone.


That realization hit Steve when Fury told him that 70 years had passed since he was frozen in the Arctic. The fact that he had completely lost the world he knew came into sharp focus in the last moments of the movie. It was that, as well as the fact that he would never see Peggy again, that made the ending poignant for me upon repeat viewings.
Ah. Good. I'm not the only one who got this from that line.

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Old 08-02-2011, 12:12 PM   #112
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UMMMM did you watch Spider-man? the last scene was Peter visiting Ben's grave, made his responsibility speech about what his future will be........ and the hero shot. They should have done that kind of scene with Captain America

- Rogers visits Peggy's grave
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- He stands up, as the sun sets or rises depending on the visual look, with this music playing in the background
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The last shot, just as the music ends, is him rotating the shield to his back as the camera focuses on his shield.
Peggy being alive would be a better way to use her. Death is cliche. Her still being alive is a much stronger symbolic way to show life went on for everyone after Capt. America. Her being dead makes it an idea, but her still being alive is a much stronger, lasting image. It's visual proof that when Steve left, she lived 70 years. It is evidence. It is powerful. Plus, far more original. If Peggy is dead, then they wasted a great opportunity for a subplot and potentially great writing. Who doesn't want to see Steve take an aged Peggy out for that dance they waited 70 years for? I DO!!! Much more potential. The people wanting to see her grave are so shortsighted on this one.

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Peggy being alive would be a better way to use her. Death is cliche. Her still being alive is a much stronger symbolic way to show life went on for everyone after Capt. America. Her being dead makes it an idea, but her still being alive is a much stronger, lasting image. It's visual proof that when Steve left, she lived 70 years. It is evidence. It is powerful. Plus, far more original. If Peggy is dead, then they wasted a great opportunity for a subplot and potentially great writing. Who doesn't want to see Steve take an aged Peggy out for that dance they waited 70 years for? I DO!!! Much more potential. The people wanting to see her grave are so shortsighted on this one.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:21 PM   #114
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I loved the ending as did the two women I saw it with. As a matter of fact the Friday night crowd I saw it with there were even a few: Awwww's verbally heard from ladies in the audience.

Worked perfectly and I really don't get the OP's criticisim of it, even having seen it twice. A graveside scene would've been morose. Here you had the feeling of loss without ever having to witness it AND it showed Steve as vulnerable, connected to you, me and the audience.

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Old 08-02-2011, 12:27 PM   #115
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I think the ending is very effective. The way it cuts as Steve comes to the sudden realisation that the only girl to ever show him affection is probably dead is pretty powerful and heartbreaking. Great acting by Evans there. His facial expression says it all.

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, So,you didnt like the Darth Vader scene at the end of Episode Three?
Nope...I didn't like that at all.

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Old 08-02-2011, 12:34 PM   #117
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, So,you didnt like the Darth Vader scene at the end of Episode Three?
How could anyone like that scene? It was horrible.

The scene at the end of Cap is effective because Evans completely sells it. With just a facial expression and his eye movements. That's what acting is about.

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Old 08-02-2011, 01:33 PM   #118
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I would assume that question is answered by the the thriving Times Square Cap is standing in the middle of , without a swastika in sight.
He was in a fake room when he woke up.....

Is he suppose to take the word of a sinister looking dude with and eye patch?? Is this really Times Square?

So I think the question would have worked.

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Death is cliche.
QFT.

It's like everybody thinks they have to do it just because they were born, but not me.

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It's like everybody thinks they have to do it just because they were born, but not me.


This comment is not witty in the least. Everyone knows my point was in regard to death in written/artistic form

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Old 08-02-2011, 03:56 PM   #121
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they didn't really just let him "walk away", they thought he'd buy their little show long enough to ease him into the modern world. However they did underestimate his memory and strength; but who would have guessed his mind and body would be so readily responsive so quickly after being frozen?

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Everyone knows my point was in regard to death in written/artistic form
Yes, and that suggestion is a fatally insane one.

Where are you getting that death in story-telling is a cliche?

I also don't want to see Chris Evans' fine ass dance with some 88 year old thing. That would be hokey, imo.

But I see where you are coming from, there is probably more story potential with her alive, but that doesn't mean they couldn't make her being dead work as a plot point, either. Death is only a cliche if its the random death of a character because they didn't know what else to do with them. That doesn't necessarily have to be the case here.

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Old 08-02-2011, 04:07 PM   #123
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Yes, and that suggestion is a fatally insane one.

Where are you getting that death in story-telling is a cliche?
Looking over someone's grave in movies is standard. Peggy being alive is much more original. Thus, death is cliche. I don't see the leap in logic.

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Looking over someone's grave in movies is standard. Peggy being alive is much more original. Thus, death is cliche. I don't see the leap in logic.
Okay, yes, looking over a grave is definitely a cliche I don't want to see.

But I still think they could incorporate her being dead in a different way, though likely yes, it would narrow down to one of those lame roses on gravestone moments.

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Old 08-02-2011, 05:12 PM   #125
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I liked the ending, you could see the sadness and frustation in Steve,, like he's thinking a lot of things in a few seconds, about his love, his friends,,, you could feel sorry and sad for him, and that last scene delivered,, IMO

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