The Official Captain America Box Office Thread! - Part 1

[Hurm...]

Cap! Shut up and take my money!!

[ultimatefan]

Originally Posted by KangConquers

Here's another thing people forget about. Your whole country doesn't have to go see it for it to be a hit; Brazil has a population of about 200 Million people, and Thor did $17 M there; I don't know how much ticket prices are in Brazil relative to the USD, but I think it's safe to say that no more than 2% of Brazil's population saw Thor.

So Cap doesn't need to win over everyone...he just needs to win over 1-3 in 100 people to be a success. When you look at it that way, Cap hitting a high WW total isn't impossible, given this is a character that has sold comic books in several countries.

So 98% of people can still have their "**** america" reaction, and this film can still be a success.

Yeah, it´s a very small amount of the overall population, and the movie was still very successful for our standards.

Anyway, let´s not turn this into a "why the world hates America" argument. That´s a complicated and delicate political debate and this is not the place for this.

I agree that it might be more of an issue of people not feeling all that motivated to see a movie whose character is so directly associated with American patriotism. But, like I said, if people think the movie´s good, they´ll see it. Steve Rogers has a compelling story of an underdog, skinny kid turned hero, and that´s a story people all over the world can relate to and enjoy.

Cap also has some advantages. Kids are out of school now, and competition next weekend looks weak. Cowboys And Aliens could be cool, but it´s not based on a well-known property and the premise may be a little tough to swallow. Smurfs is more of a kids movie, and frankly it looks awful.

[Flemm]

Originally Posted by flickchick85

Ditto. It seems like win/win for both, too, because as Box Office Mojo noted, Cap had higher attendance than Thor. So Thor can claim the opening weekend box office crown, and Cap can claim the opening weekend attendance crown - either way, Marvel Studios wins this superhero summer.

Agreed. Cap and Thor are literally on the same team, so it's win/win. Personally, I'd like to see Cap overtake Thor domestically (it seems only fitting), with Thor retaining the worldwide crown for superheroes this summer. But regardless of the details, Marvel studios and its fans are the winners here. Avengers is set up beautifully. Now that movie has to raise the bar. No pressure, Whedon, no pressure

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by flickchick85

Ditto. It seems like win/win for both, too, because as Box Office Mojo noted, Cap had higher attendance than Thor. So Thor can claim the opening weekend box office crown, and Cap can claim the opening weekend attendance crown - either way, Marvel Studios wins this superhero summer.

I hope Cap does well overseas. I really want my Cap sequel sooner rather than later.

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[04nbod]

Originally Posted by CaptainCraig

Whatever Mr. I Hate America
The world and it's America haters can't have it both ways.
We get proactive and preemptive and that's suddenly wrong also.
Next 2-bit dictator wants to start crap somewhere I say let it be. I'm over trying to please the haters.

Are we really going to get into an argument about a 70 year old conflict?

Lets just put this simply. When the entire world wages war and you step out despite overwhelming evidence of human rights abuses and a nation invading other nations (like Poland) its a bad thing. When you strut into another country without proper evidence and start a war likes its an old west bar fight its a bad thing. No nation is perfect, good lord I'm British and we've done some **** in years past but its not about national pride and its not as simple as 'do or do not'. I don't think anyone would complain if you invaded North Korea or Iran.

And that is Miss 'I don't care about America one way or the other as long as they give me comics, music and movies' to you sir.

Anyway. Good numbers for Cap.

[kedrell]

Originally Posted by Flemm

Agreed. Cap and Thor are literally on the same team, so it's win/win. Personally, I'd like to see Cap overtake Thor domestically (it seems only fitting), with Thor retaining the worldwide crown for superheroes this summer. But regardless of the details, Marvel studios and its fans are the winners here. Avengers is set up beautifully. Now that movie has to raise the bar. No pressure, Whedon, no pressure

It probably will. It's behind by so little and it has summer weekdays as an advantage.

[JeetKuneDo]

As a person who has traveled to Europe more than a few times, I can testify that Europeans don't hate Americans. They hate "Presidents, Congress, politicians"...but they treat Americans very well. My band was met at a German airport by some friends with a giant Texas flag. Being a musician from "America" means you are treated like star even though we aren't any different than a German musician. There was also a restaurant in Hamburg that specialized in American food and had a big Statue of Liberty mural painted on the outside.

And just about every European I've spoken too has taken a trip to the US for a vacation at least once.

The question might be if Cap is placed in the same category as Bush/Obama. I don't really think he is. I've posted it before, but I stumbled across this video a while back of this band called D.A.D. Their bass player apparently dresses up in funny outfits for every show. He chose Cap America for a show in Coppenhagen.

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

[KangConquers]

I can't believe people are still paranoid about this movie bombing.

It had double X-Men: First Class's opening weekend in Italy, and that movie went on to gross 200 M + Foreign.

I'd say 200 M domestic and 150-200 Million foreign is entirely possible. If that happens, expect Captain America 2 on May 2nd, 2014.

[kedrell]

I think it should definitely at least surpass XM:FC's WW total(which'll probably be around $350M). And Cap cost $20M less so I think a sequel will be coming in 2014.

Cap needs $280M WW to get in the black, I think.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That number in italy is promising. The domestic number is solid and it's interesting that it sold more tickets than Thor but do to it not having as many people going to see it in 3D it came in with slightly lower numbers.

I just hope it has decent legs because well, I liked it. If it doesn't I won't be crying about it...too much.

[TheVileOne]

People don't want to see ****** 3D conversions. More people saw Green Lantern in 2D than fake 3D.

I'm honestly a little disappointed with these numbers. I was hoping more for $70 million or more. I am putting some of the blame on Rotten Tomatoes for cooking the scores and the reviews that were being put out first.

I am putting some of the other blame on the marketing. The campaign started way too late, it didn't build enough. There needed to be more thunder on this campaign considering how competitive this summer was.

[Marvin]

So Thor actually won after all.
go figure, there seems to always be funky early stats where cap's involved.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by TheVileOne

People don't want to see ****** 3D conversions. More people saw Green Lantern in 2D than fake 3D.

I'm honestly a little disappointed with these numbers. I was hoping more for $70 million or more. I am putting some of the blame on Rotten Tomatoes for cooking the scores and the reviews that were being put out first.

I am putting some of the other blame on the marketing. The campaign started way too late, it didn't build enough. There needed to be more thunder on this campaign considering how competitive this summer was.

I still say Harry Potter probably still took a chunk of those numbers. It's only 5 million short. There wasn't that much problem with the marketing.

[ciscostudent561]

Thor>>>>>

[TheVileOne]

There was a lot wrong with the marketing. It never felt like it really kicked it into high gear.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Originally Posted by Marvin

So Thor actually won after all.
go figure, there seems to always be funky early stats where cap's involved.

Alot of movies go down from estimates, it's not a big deal. And yes, Thor opened with slightly more but still sold 8% less tickets.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Originally Posted by kedrell

I think it should definitely at least surpass XM:FC's WW total(which'll probably be around $350M). And Cap cost $20M less so I think a sequel will be coming in 2014.

Cap needs $280M WW to get in the black, I think.

I'd say 400 m WW. THe studio gets half which is 200 m. 150 m of that goes toward the production budget and the other 50 m covers marketing.

180 m domestic and 220 m overseas should be enough to get us to 400 m worldwide.

[Marvin]

Originally Posted by I SEE SPIDEY

Alot of movies go down from estimates, it's not a big deal. And yes, Thor opened with slightly more but still sold 8% less tickets.

Potter went up if I remember correctly.

[Docker2.0]

Originally Posted by TheVileOne

There was a lot wrong with the marketing. It never felt like it really kicked it into high gear.

Have to agree. There were commercials but not nearly like we saw with Thor. This reminds me of the Ironman/Hulk thing when they came out. Iron Man got all the press while we didn't see a Hulk trailer until a month before the movie actually came out. I'm glad Cap is doing well but they actually promoted Thor a lot more than they did Cap.

[Parker Wayne]

I saw a hell of a lot more than Thor.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Originally Posted by Marvin

Potter went up if I remember correctly.

Potter's estimate was 48.1mil and it's actual is 47.4mil. In it's first weekend, it went up, which happens sometimes.

I know you are so-so on the movie but don't let that get in the way of the fact that nothing unusual happened to it at the boxoffice. Some movies are overestimated and some aren't, it's not a big deal.

It's numbers are pretty close to Thor's so that means like Thor, it had a decent opening but nothing special. Thor also went down from estimates. I knew the studio was overestimating it anyhow so not shocking to me.

And if Thor's marketing was so much better how come it only did .6 hundered thousand more than Cap? This isn't the same thing as Iron Man and Hulk because Cap actually sold more tickets in it's opening weekend.

I don't know what Cap is going to do over all as I don't know how much people liked it but I certainly hope it doesn't have s**tty legs.

And baring some Inception style legs it interesting to note that none of these comicbook movies have really, really broken out. And by broken out I mean like a 75+mil plus opening and a 250+mil close domestically.

[Marvin]

I see what you're saying, and I'm not implying any type of agenda, I was just informed the cap outdid thor(and it should have) in this very thread. Figured I'd set the record straight. And, yea, like with the RT situation, it seems you always have to give cap a few days to get the record straight.

I think releasing at the end of july is a hell of a lot safer than the end of june. Cap will out leg the june releases for sure. And unlike thor it doesn't have a slew of major "hits" following it for the coming months. Plus potter will be dropping pretty quick.

[Rock Sexton]

Originally Posted by MessiahDecoy123

I'd say 400 m WW. THe studio gets half which is 200 m. 150 m of that goes toward the production budget and the other 50 m covers marketing.

180 m domestic and 220 m overseas should be enough to get us to 400 m worldwide.

They don't get half ..... of the international BO they get roughly 12-13% which then goes towards paying marketing costs.

[kedrell]

Cap could actually pull ahead of Thor today. It's behind by so little and had summer weekdays as an advantage.

[Tony Stark]

The estimates weren't that far off, it's not a huge deal. I expect that Cap will have a good hold next weekend, and under 50% drop. I'd say look for Cap to do slightly better than Thor's 2nd weekend with around 35-37M.