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Old 10-19-2006, 02:15 AM   #1
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Mike Dougherty is set to make his directoral debut with the horror/comdey flick Trick R Treat.Dan Harris is directing his second movie I, Lucifer starring Daniel Craig and Ewan Mcgregor after his strong debut film Imaginary Heroes. What kind of effect do you think this will have on the SR sequel? That is if Singer will return.


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Not much i guess
Assuming Singer and co. are still on board and the sequel comes out in 2009 , i think both guys have enough time to work out the script. If they haven't already begun working on it.

I remember reading an article somewhere where Singer was invited to a dinner with Alan Horn where he basically layed out what he had planned for the trilogy. Some time later he was accepted as the director of SR.
Now they could've just had a a simple plan like for example "In the first movie , we'll just have Superman saving the earth and lex coming up with a devious plan and in the second movie we'll have Zod returning and in the 3rd movie we'll have Braniac.".
That or they have already begun writing a concept for the sequel. Action scenes being fleshed out etc.


Besides it's still 3 years till 2009. I think that singer will take the same approach that he had with the X-Men movies and SR which is going to be shooting the movie somewhere in 2008 and then use the other time for the VFX. Don't ask me why he would do that , cause i don't see how a big budget blockbuster like Superman with massive VFX sequences ( hopefully with a villain this time around ) will need a post. prod. schedule that is less then a year.
But anyway going back to the writers , i think both will finish their movies somewhere in 2007

I,LUCIFER ( which btw sounds like a awesome movie !) doesn't have a release date , but i think Craig will begin work on this movie after he finishes work on The Golden Compass. Or not, because the sequel to Casino Royale comes out in 2008. So i think that movie ( bond sequel) has a higher priority .
Which would mean that by the time Craig finishes up on Bond , Harris will have been contuining working on the script alongside Dougherty.
Trick 'r Treat comes out on the 5th of oct. 2007 ( taken from IMDB) so Dougherty will definately be finished before 2008.




And this all is of singer goes along with those two. OR mebbe WB has said to singer to actually take writers who know a thing or two about the comics ( a la Joss Whedon and David Hayter with the first X-men movie)

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Honestly, I hope we get new writers all around... A Nolan/Goyer combo would be perfect for Superman or any other Comic franchise for that matter....

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Honestly, I hope we get new writers all around... A Nolan/Goyer combo would be perfect for Superman or any other Comic franchise for that matter....

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I totally agree, although that particular combo won't happen.

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Honestly, I hope we get new writers all around... A Nolan/Goyer combo would be perfect for Superman or any other Comic franchise for that matter....

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Good choice, but it will never happen.

Singer couldn't control those two like he did his whack pack of Harris & Daugherty, and Timm/Dini are not going to pacify Singer's fragile mentally disturbed bi-polar ego.

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Good choice, but it will never happen.

Singer couldn't control those two like he did his whack pack of Harris & Daugherty, and Timm/Dini are not going to pacify Singer's fragile mentally disturbed bi-polar ego.
Taking things a bit too seriously.

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Good choice, but it will never happen.

Singer couldn't control those two like he did his whack pack of Harris & Daugherty, and Timm/Dini are not going to pacify Singer's fragile mentally disturbed bi-polar ego.
Has Dini and Timm ever written a feature length movie, beside a cartoon? Not to disprespect what they do, because what I am calling cartoons are indeed fun and well done. I just don't understand why you would think they are the "2nd coming".

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Mike Dougherty is set to make his directoral debut with the horror/comdey flick Trick R Treat.Dan Harris is directing his second movie I, Lucifer starring Daniel Craig and Ewan Mcgregor after his strong debut film Imaginary Heroes. What kind of effect do you think this will have on the SR sequel? That is if Singer will return.

I think having Mike having the experience of directing and Dan furthering his, will only help them with their careers.

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Good choice, but it will never happen.

Singer couldn't control those two like he did his whack pack of Harris & Daugherty, and Timm/Dini are not going to pacify Singer's fragile mentally disturbed bi-polar ego.

Oh I know, but i can dream can't I

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Good choice, but it will never happen.

Singer couldn't control those two like he did his whack pack of Harris & Daugherty, and Timm/Dini are not going to pacify Singer's fragile mentally disturbed bi-polar ego.

Oh jeez.

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Not much i guess
Assuming Singer and co. are still on board and the sequel comes out in 2009 , i think both guys have enough time to work out the script. If they haven't already begun working on it.

I remember reading an article somewhere where Singer was invited to a dinner with Alan Horn where he basically layed out what he had planned for the trilogy. Some time later he was accepted as the director of SR.
Now they could've just had a a simple plan like for example "In the first movie , we'll just have Superman saving the earth and lex coming up with a devious plan and in the second movie we'll have Zod returning and in the 3rd movie we'll have Braniac.".
That or they have already begun writing a concept for the sequel. Action scenes being fleshed out etc.


Besides it's still 3 years till 2009. I think that singer will take the same approach that he had with the X-Men movies and SR which is going to be shooting the movie somewhere in 2008 and then use the other time for the VFX. Don't ask me why he would do that , cause i don't see how a big budget blockbuster like Superman with massive VFX sequences ( hopefully with a villain this time around ) will need a post. prod. schedule that is less then a year.
But anyway going back to the writers , i think both will finish their movies somewhere in 2007

I,LUCIFER ( which btw sounds like a awesome movie !) doesn't have a release date , but i think Craig will begin work on this movie after he finishes work on The Golden Compass. Or not, because the sequel to Casino Royale comes out in 2008. So i think that movie ( bond sequel) has a higher priority .
Which would mean that by the time Craig finishes up on Bond , Harris will have been contuining working on the script alongside Dougherty.
Trick 'r Treat comes out on the 5th of oct. 2007 ( taken from IMDB) so Dougherty will definately be finished before 2008.
I'm pretty sure they will be finished with their films by the end of 2007. That wasn't really point i was wondering more that now that both of them of the are going out on their own how that will affect the SR sequel.Will Singer let them direct segments of the movie like Robert Rodriguez did on Sin City? Will we see stronger dialogue? Will they ask for more money when they sign on?

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And this all is of singer goes along with those two. OR mebbe WB has said to singer to actually take writers who know a thing or two about the comics ( a la Joss Whedon and David Hayter with the first X-men movie)
Well Singer knows both David Hayter and Tom DeSanto quite well and both major comic book geeks. I'd be very happy if they were brought on board for the SR sequel.

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Honestly, I hope we get new writers all around... A Nolan/Goyer combo would be perfect for Superman or any other Comic franchise for that matter....

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Besides the fact that i don't think Nolan will do a Superman movie this not the topic of this thread its really about Dougherty and Harris.

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I think having Mike having the experience of directing and Dan furthering his, will only help them with their careers.
Most definetly.Especially Harris'. His first film starred Sigourney Weaver now he's getting to direct Ewan Mcgregor and Daniel Craig. Not bad for one of Singer's 'yes men'.

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Most definetly.Especially Harris'. His first film starred Sigourney Weaver now he's getting to direct Ewan Mcgregor and Daniel Craig. Not bad for one of Singer's 'yes men'.
I really liked Imaginary Heroes. It was good.

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These two are just as big of a problem as Singer. Why can'y Singer get imaginative with his writing staff, casting, etc. He's always working with the same group of people. This limits his range as a movie maker. These guys are talented, but somebody needs to be hired to call out Singer or whoever directs the sequel on bad ideas. Bring in some fresh talent with something new to bring to the table.

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These two are just as big of a problem as Singer. Why can'y Singer get imaginative with his writing staff, casting, etc. He's always working with the same group of people.
A lot of directors do work with the same people. Spielberg COULD get someone besides John Williams to score his movies, but he likes working with John so he keeps him.

The same with Singer and Dougherty/Harris.

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These two are just as big of a problem as Singer. Why can'y Singer get imaginative with his writing staff, casting, etc. He's always working with the same group of people. This limits his range as a movie maker. These guys are talented, but somebody needs to be hired to call out Singer or whoever directs the sequel on bad ideas. Bring in some fresh talent with something new to bring to the table.
I think its good to surround yourself with people you trust and I think that is what Singer has done. This is the case all across the board with directors. Who knows what other ideas Singer had that his staff didn't agree with. I am sure they aren't sitting on their hands if they believed Singer had a bad idea, like some would lead you to believe.

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Goyer/Peter jackson would make a phenominal Superman Movie.

jackson would push the cinematography/action/fantasy and scale to the limit and go out of his way to bring us something ORIGINAL and Goyer would give us a great story that embodies the soul of the books.
I really hope Singer F#$ks off and WB give Superman to someone more capable. Superman aint boring WB, its just that some people have a really narrow vision of his world. A watered down vision that starts and ends with a movie made 30 years ago.
I'm actually planning on selling my X1 and X2 DVD's because Singer messed up Superman so badly. If universal can admit Ang Lee messed up and start Hulk AGAIN, then perhaps WB can do the same.


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I've already sold my X-1...X2 is probably next, since I NEVER watch it anymore. It's a decent film, but the X-Men deserve far, FAR more than something that looked like it was practically made for television.

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It's a decent film, but the X-Men deserve far, FAR more than something that looked like it was practically made for television.
You know, I never thought of it like that but you're right. There was really nothing "theatrical" about it.

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Comparing the X-Men movies to tv movie is biggest insult you could make but if you feel that way then so be it. I just think that i should point out that many people, comic fans and general film-going folk, think highly of the first two X-Men movies. They weren't huge succeses on dvd and at the box office because Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry were in it.

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I've already sold my X-1...X2 is probably next, since I NEVER watch it anymore. It's a decent film, but the X-Men deserve far, FAR more than something that looked like it was practically made for television.
I also think that they look like T.V movies.

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How old are Dougherty and Harris?

Can we please Dith these lames, but if Singer returns, you can bet they'll be back.

I wonder how they got the jobs in the first place.........

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