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Old 11-17-2013, 09:12 PM   #676
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I liked Portman once again in this movie, but I was also annoyed that A. the Asgardian characters got less to do than freaking Darcy (BS) and B. that Jane was essentially a damsel in distress and her relationship with Thor STILL wasn't really developed all that well.

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Old 11-17-2013, 09:41 PM   #677
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That was a little disappointing. Something tells me that Jane Foster would have been less of a damsel-in-distress had Patty Jenkins directed the film.

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Old 11-17-2013, 10:11 PM   #678
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I didn't look at Jane as being the damsel-in-distress in this. Especially since she played a very active role in Malekith's defeat. I thought Thor and she made a good team.

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Old 11-18-2013, 09:35 AM   #679
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That was a little disappointing. Something tells me that Jane Foster would have been less of a damsel-in-distress had Patty Jenkins directed the film.
We probably would have seen Thor hiding behind Jane's skirt if she would have directed Thor 2...
I think she was replaced for a good reason...

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Old 11-18-2013, 01:35 PM   #680
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Portman gave a good performance, and unlike some love interests, she actually played a fairly large role in defeating the villain. I liked seeing her in Asgard in a fish-out-of-water situation, as Thor had already experienced in the first film when he was on Earth. Her reactions to Odin's book of legends and the story of the Dark Elves were quite good.

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Old 11-18-2013, 02:16 PM   #681
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Still wonder if she gets a cameo role in the upcoming A2 AOU...

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Old 11-18-2013, 09:51 PM   #682
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We probably would have seen Thor hiding behind Jane's skirt if she would have directed Thor 2...
I think she was replaced for a good reason...
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what she had in mind.

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Old 11-18-2013, 10:45 PM   #683
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I didn't look at Jane as being the damsel-in-distress in this. Especially since she played a very active role in Malekith's defeat. I thought Thor and she made a good team.
True, but that was undercut somewhat by the lack of a belivable explanation. Actually, not explaining important plot points/character motivations was one of this film's major flaws. Jane being important to beating the villain would have been much cooler if I wasn't constantly asking "why is this happening" or "what the Hell is going on" all throughout the third act.

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Old 11-18-2013, 11:07 PM   #684
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I feel like they wasted on what could have been a great development moment for Jane and Thor for stupid cheap laughs during the moment when they were in the cave together.

They could have both had a serious conversation about everything that just happened and figure out what they really mean to each other, but instead...they go straightly to the comedy again.

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Old 11-19-2013, 08:38 AM   #685
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I was just thinking about the Scene Sif gives a dirty look at what I thought at the time was looking at Loki, and say Congrats on whoever it was saying it was Jane she shot that dirty look lol

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Old 11-19-2013, 09:59 AM   #686
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I was just thinking about the Scene Sif gives a dirty look at what I thought at the time was looking at Loki, and say Congrats on whoever it was saying it was Jane she shot that dirty look lol
I also loved the part when Thor told Sif she was the one who would spring Jane from custody..
I felt it was his way of saying to her, Jane is the one I love, and that being said I trust no one but you to free her and deliver her safely to me.

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:05 AM   #687
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Sif's role was also disappointing, although Alexander was really good for what she got to do. Alexander talked about this Sif/Jane dynamic and how Sif's feelings would be explored, and aside from one scene, none of that was in the movie. It seems like almost all of it was cut out, which was irritating. I don't mind Thor ultimately choosing Jane, but at least make it seem like somewhat of a harder choice for him.

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:28 AM   #688
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You know, another weird thing is the fact that Sif is likely to have had feelings for Thor for several years already; so you would think that they would have gotten a close up of her face for an reaction when Thor and Jane kissed back on Earth in the first film.lol

I think one of the frustrating things about this film is that it really doesn't establish why Thor would/should be with Jane out of all the women on Earth (realms even).

I mean I get that she's his connection to "Earth", but the foundation of that connection wasn't well established from the first film due to the lack of credibility for that development.

I'm not saying Jane is a bad or unworthy person; I think she's a good person and I don't find her annoying. It's just that I can't any "special" reason as to why she would be "the one" for Thor.

Other films with other comic book couples have better established as to why the protagonist falls for his (or her) counterpart/love interest in the film.

Some of the best examples that I can think of are: Tony and Pepper, Gwen and Peter, and even Man of Steel's Lois and Clark Kent/Superman.

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Old 11-20-2013, 12:30 PM   #689
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A lot of people didn't like the Thor/Jane relationship in the first film. I was more forgiving of it because A. I thought that Hemsworth and Portman had good chemistry performance-wise, and B. I saw it more a set-up. They weren't really in love per-se, they were just attracted to each other and considering maybe taking it further. They left it in a great place to develop the romance more, with Jane working to find a way to get back to Thor. Also, in interviews, Feige and co mentioned wanting to explore WHY Thor and Jane are attracted to each other and develop the romance more. However, the romance really wasn't developed more in this film, and I'm a lot less forgiving of it this time because it the opportunity/setup is right there, it would have been so easy, but they just didn't take it. I got the sense that this film WAS focused a lot more on ideas/character interaction/etc at one point, but that most of that stuff was taken out in editing to make it more of an action movie, which is irritating because you can do BOTH.

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A lot of people didn't like the Thor/Jane relationship in the first film. I was more forgiving of it because A. I thought that Hemsworth and Portman had good chemistry performance-wise, and B. I saw it more a set-up. They weren't really in love per-se, they were just attracted to each other and considering maybe taking it further. They left it in a great place to develop the romance more, with Jane working to find a way to get back to Thor. Also, in interviews, Feige and co mentioned wanting to explore WHY Thor and Jane are attracted to each other and develop the romance more. However, the romance really wasn't developed more in this film, and I'm a lot less forgiving of it this time because it the opportunity/setup is right there, it would have been so easy, but they just didn't take it. I got the sense that this film WAS focused a lot more on ideas/character interaction/etc at one point, but that most of that stuff was taken out in editing to make it more of an action movie, which is irritating because you can do BOTH.
This. I still don't know why everyone failed to see what the true dynamic was between Thor and Jane in the first film. Why everyone kept complaining about how unrealistic and stupid it was that Thor and Jane were in love in the first movie I'll never know because they were not. Even the director made that clear. It's incredibly annoying that people still today completely miss that fact. This film completely dropped the ball that Branagh setup in the first film on the relationship front.

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I'd say watch the Jane on Earth be some magic copy and the real one is on Asgard and Thor can't get back

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Old 11-21-2013, 03:32 AM   #692
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With the way that her relationship with Thor has been portrayed so far on-screen, I keep asking myself on what's really stopping Thor from moving on to other women within the 9 realms, hooking up with people like Skye (from AOS) or any other attractive woman with a good personality?

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So, with no truly credible evidence to support the theory, theres still an itch at the back of my mind that thinks Jane is being set up as the MCU's Amora. And that the Aether changed her in a somewhat more permanent manner.

After my second viewing, I take particular notice in scenes like the one in Asgard where her eyes turn black and the sky turns red, it seems really out of place. Does no one agree? Like it's never explained what exactly she's experiencing right there. Is she seeing the future? Is she testing her powers? Is she in pain? Is she in control? I can't quite tell. Also watch her reaction at Frigga's funeral and Loki's death. Kinda empty.

Apart from the film's plot in itself, Jane seems to be having her own side-arc that no one else in the film is aware of. Whether she's fainting, sleeping, or gazing off into the distance.

Am I alone in this speculation?

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You know, one thing that I don't get is why they showed a shot of Jane in her Asgardian dress when she first had her dark vision at the beginning of the film, just after she had been affected (before when she had reunited with Thor)

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Yeah that's kind of a weird piece too.

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You know, one thing that I don't get is why they showed a shot of Jane in her Asgardian dress when she first had her dark vision at the beginning of the film, just after she had been affected (before when she had reunited with Thor)
BTW the dress is a even stranger thing she dressed in Frigga`s dress, or the dress that look exactly like hers (during here and Frigga sequence she were in golden gown of her own) - I really do not know what they mean by it but for me it looked just unhealthy for her to be dressed as recently diseased mother of two oh her companions.

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I was a big defender of Portman in the first film, but I didn't think she was very good here. She still has good chemistry with Hemsworth, but other than that, she just seemed so... disengaged in this movie. I'm not sure if it was just bad director or what, but she seemed to be phoning it in most of the time, IMO.

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Well, they didn't give much interesting stuff to do, again. This movie REALLY needs a Director's Cut with all of the actual character-building scenes put back in. Her "romance" with Thor was just so shallow, which is a shame since Branagh left it wide open for future development at the end of Thor 1.

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It almost seemed like they couldn't even figure out how to write lines for her. Seriously, it seemed like half her scenes consisted of awkward silences.

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Well, they didn't give much interesting stuff to do, again. This movie REALLY needs a Director's Cut with all of the actual character-building scenes put back in. Her "romance" with Thor was just so shallow, which is a shame since Branagh left it wide open for future development at the end of Thor 1.
Agreed; I mean I kept asking myself as to why Thor is attached to Jane as much as he is presented in this film. I mean I don't see much difference between the likes of Jane's character and Skye from "Agents of SHIELD" who seemingly also has the hots for Thor like Jane had in the first film before they started interacting with each other on friendlier terms.

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