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Old 08-20-2011, 06:54 PM   #76
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I didn't design Superman's costume, Joe Shuster did. And the real costume looks better than Snyder's.
Joe Shuster designed for a comic book character which is far different from designing for a real person in the 21st century. The original comic book costume does not look better for today's audience on film.

You're judgmental in a very subjective way. Let's see how the movie turns out and how people actually receive the costume. Though, their opinion probably doesn't matter to you because you'd accuse them of not being true fans.

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Sorry dude, but I disagree. Am I the only one seeing blue shorts? This picture isn't the best, but there are other versions that indicate (to me at least), that he's wearing a gold/yellow belt, with different textured blue shorts.

I can see an edge where the leg opening of the shorts would be......
No your not, it's just as possible he's not wearing trunks and I agree with others making them blue as well is odd but I've been saying since day 1 it appears he has them.

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For the aesthetic. We've all seen how ridiculous it would look having a skin tight jump suit on a man.....the shorts break that up. Red shorts don't work any more, but shorts are needed.

Even the new design in the comic books has blue shorts......(sort of).
But if the shorts are the same exact color...it doesn't really break it up...it just adds a few seams. Besides, he'll probably have some sort of gold-highlighted belt there anyway to break up the whole blue bodysuit thing.

But yeah...if the thought is that the seams make a difference...kudos.

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I think it looks like this:

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The suit started off with no S on the cape, didn't it?

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Joe Shuster designed for a comic book character which is far different from designing for a real person in the 21st century. The original comic book costume does not look better for today's audience on film.

You're judgmental in a very subjective way. Let's see how the movie turns out and how people actually receive the costume. Though, their opinion probably doesn't matter to you because you'd accuse them of not being true fans.
I like how decisions for today's audiences are made by people who seem to sneer at the source material. I'm glad Peter Jackson didn't make those sorts of decisions with the LOTR and Hobbit films.

Superhero films should be as faithful, and more importantly, as reverent as those films were to the source material. But they are not, and it is this sort of thinking that keeps them from being so.

This is the difference between art (LOTR) and product (MOS).

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It is funny how you judge a movie without even seeing it. Grow up.

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It's a good way to cut corners and save a little money.
Yeah...they must have blew the suit budget on those cuffs. Thank god it wasn't as hard as sewing a yellow shield patch on the cape.

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What legal reasons? Those same legal reasons aren't keeping them from using the name Superman, Lois Lane, Jor-El, etc....which all fall under the same legal issues.

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No, they cut a corner so when they have CG models of Superman flying, they don't have to spend the little bit of extra time to deal with the \S/.

Of course getting rid of the trunks is worse, but the combination of no trunks and no \S/ on the back of the cape makes the costume = Brandon Routh's leather cape suit with the t-shirt neck IMO.
Let me show you how 'hard' it is to digitally animate a cape with a yellow S on it...as opposed to one without a yellow S.....if you model the cape with a yellow S on it from the outset.....




That's how hard it is....as in, not at all. If, however, the S is an afterthought...yes, it could be a b¡tch to add it in, or to do it if everything is hand-drawn.

No...it's not laziness, cheapness, or what have you. It's a purely creative decision from the get-go. Just like some Superman fans prefer an S-less cape as opposed to those who want the S. Neither one sucks any more or less than the other....it's just a preference.

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I think it looks like this:
Except...without the gold seams on the legs and inseam.

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I think the new suit sucks. Movie might end up being good, but the suit sucks. Ah well. No offense to those who like it.

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lol ok. Keep the Reeve costume then.

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I think it looks like this:
I can see some variation of that...
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I'll shut up now lol!

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Yeah...they must have blew the suit budget on those cuffs. Thank god it wasn't as hard as sewing a yellow shield patch on the cape.


What legal reasons? Those same legal reasons aren't keeping them from using the name Superman, Lois Lane, Jor-El, etc....which all fall under the same legal issues.


Let me show you how 'hard' it is to digitally animate a cape with a yellow S on it...as opposed to one without a yellow S.....if you model the cape with a yellow S on it from the outset.....




That's how hard it is....as in, not at all. If, however, the S is an afterthought...yes, it could be a b¡tch to add it in, or to do it if everything is hand-drawn.

No...it's not laziness, cheapness, or what have you. It's a purely creative decision from the get-go. Just like some Superman fans prefer an S-less cape as opposed to those who want the S. Neither one sucks any more or less than the other....it's just a preference.
Good call Kal. Additional reference... this was five minutes worth of effort to set up and animate on a slow laptop

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lol ok. Keep the Reeve costume then.
Didn't say I was in love with that one either

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Yeah...they must have blew the suit budget on those cuffs. Thank god it wasn't as hard as sewing a yellow shield patch on the cape.


What legal reasons? Those same legal reasons aren't keeping them from using the name Superman, Lois Lane, Jor-El, etc....which all fall under the same legal issues.


Let me show you how 'hard' it is to digitally animate a cape with a yellow S on it...as opposed to one without a yellow S.....if you model the cape with a yellow S on it from the outset.....




That's how hard it is....as in, not at all. If, however, the S is an afterthought...yes, it could be a b¡tch to add it in, or to do it if everything is hand-drawn.

No...it's not laziness, cheapness, or what have you. It's a purely creative decision from the get-go. Just like some Superman fans prefer an S-less cape as opposed to those who want the S. Neither one sucks any more or less than the other....it's just a preference.
no offense but the cape with the "S" on it looks like a jumbled mess...

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You did that StarvingArtist? That's badass.

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I like how decisions for today's audiences are made by people who seem to sneer at the source material. I'm glad Peter Jackson didn't make those sorts of decisions with the LOTR and Hobbit films.

Superhero films should be as faithful, and more importantly, as reverent as those films were to the source material. But they are not, and it is this sort of thinking that keeps them from being so.

This is the difference between art (LOTR) and product (MOS).
You're only imagining it's that way. Peter Jackson didn't adapt LOTR word for word. He made changes too.

There's no point in telling the same story the same exact way over and over again. And so far, all the changes we have seen are superficial. It's absurd to accuse Nolan, Snyder, and everyone else making the movie of sneering at the source material. They're keeping the Superman mythos alive which they have expressed great respect towards.


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You did that StarvingArtist? That's badass.
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We havent even seen how the costume looks like in totality and people are already predicting failure of the movie. LOL Well, its a minority. The absolute vast majority of people like it so far. If its this what it takes to make Superman relevant and modern, who cares about trunks and yellow S. Im just really happy with the cape attachment, collar, cape, colors, symbol, boots. They are much more important elements, imo.

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no offense but the cape with the "S" on it looks like a jumbled mess...
None taken...it's just a demonstration of making something like a sheet or cape 'wavy'....the yellow S doesn't make it any more difficult if it's already part of the cape. But if I had to 'accurately' add a yellow S with the same wave pattern after the fact...24 different times for every second of screentime with a fluttering cape...then it'd be a huge p.i.t.n..

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Can someone tell me why those "spy photos" never really show the complete, real thing? I guess these kind of pictures are official, some kind of marketing, as usual, to test the waters.

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They're keeping him hidden to keep the full suit hidden. Free marketing is a plus.

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i do agree with you here superdaniel

"Im just really happy with the cape attachment, collar, cape, colors, symbol, boots. They are much more important elements, imo."

honestly this and the CR suit are tops but i also feel it would have been easy enough to give us the yellow S, its like the wings on caps helmet i mean jeez its a little bit of paint but it was a big thing for me and im glad they went with them in the end

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None taken...it's just a demonstration of making something like a sheet or cape 'wavy'....the yellow S doesn't make it any more difficult if it's already part of the cape. But if I had to 'accurately' add a yellow S with the same wave pattern after the fact...24 different times for every second of screentime with a fluttering cape...then it'd be a huge p.i.t.n..
I got what you're saying...I think they could have added a "S" to the cape easy, I'm just not gonna let it ruin my movie going experience

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