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Old 08-31-2011, 10:41 AM   #1
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Default What if Clark Kent isn't a disguise?

These two pictures really have me thinking...







First of all - and I know this has been discussed before - but notice the "S" shield in the window of the store in the first pic. Granted, it could very well be part of the behind-the-scenes production, but it actually looks like it could be part of the on-film set decoration. If that's the case, what are the chances that a store front in Smallville would just happen to have a Superman "S" shield in a store front window? What if, like when a famous athlete's hometown proudly displays that athlete's professional jersey/number all over town, Smallville is doing the same with Superman? Which would imply that it's general knowledge that Superman is from Smallville, which would also imply that everyone knows Clark Kent is Superman. The fact that there also just happens to be a street named "Clark" in Smallville - per the second pic - backs up this theory even more.

If plot rumors are to be believed - that Clark is a traveling journalist in his early-mid 20s, who, through a series of events and conflicts while covering a escalating story in South Africa (presumably), eventually embraces his other-worldly powers and become Superman - then it's obvious that Clark most likely works for the Daily Planet before becoming Superman, something unique to this interpretation. If that is the case, then "Clark Kent" at the Daily Planet is actually Clark Kent - not a disguise, but his true self. So, what if, when Clark finally does become Superman, he does so in a way that makes it unnecessary to lead a double life, ala Tony Stark in the first Iron Man. What if that's Snyder's/Nolen's/Goyer's way of getting around the whole glasses-hide-his-true-identity thing - something that's becoming harder and harder to believe - by simply getting rid of that concept all together? What if we get our taste of Clark Kent-the-journalist before he becomes Superman, then never again (i.e. once he becomes Superman, he stops working at the Daily Planet). Granted, the whole dual identity thing is part of the fun, but with modern audiences, it really is almost impossible to believe that a man could fool everyone by just putting on some glasses and changing his demeanor a bit. Then again, we'd miss things like ripping open the button-up work shirt to reveal the "S" - and a number of other iconic nuances that go along with Clark Kent-the-disguise - so who knows. They may very well not go that far. I guess we'll find out soon enough...


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Old 08-31-2011, 10:45 AM   #2
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That sounds silly.

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Old 08-31-2011, 10:47 AM   #3
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I don't know how I'd feel about them dropping one of the things that Superman innovated. It would be more realistic if his dual identity wasn't a secret at all, since people have trouble suspending disbelief that the glasses are a good disguise, but you have to be careful. How many traits can you drop before Superman's no longer unique?

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Old 08-31-2011, 10:53 AM   #4
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Well, that would sort of kill pretty much any type of complex Superman would have. He would just be Superman 24/7 and the love story between Lois Lane and Superman would not be very complex. If he is supposed to be dealing with tremendous isolation like it has been mentioned around here before, this would only make it worse. Then, he would be Dr. Manhattan, sort of, he wouldn't have much time with Lois either, he would just be on call 24/7. I doubt they'd go that route because it eliminates a lot of the drama. I wouldn't be surprised though if most of the movie were about Superman and then towards the end is when he finally joins the Daily Planet leaving the stage set for the sequels if there is one.

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Yeah, getting rid of the disguise definitely eliminates a lot of the drama and what makes the character of Superman so unique, so I doubt they'd go that direction. It's just interesting to see that "S" shield in the Smallville store front and street named "Clark" not too far away.

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I always wondered how could Superman be Clark most of the day when he knows there's always crime or accidents that he could prevent? He should be Superman 24/7. Some deleted scene in STM provided a vague answer by Jor-El, but it wasn't enough.

I could buy the opposite: He becomes Superman 24/7 untill he realises that he needs human interaction or it's just a lonely sad life and decides to become the mild-mannered Clark persona.

Anyways, they need to address the glasses as disguise issue with more than a couple of jokes this time.

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These two pictures really have me thinking...







First of all - and I know this has been discussed before - but notice the "S" shield in the window of the store in the first pic. Granted, it could very well be part of the behind-the-scenes production, but it actually looks like it could be part of the on-film set decoration. If that's the case, what are the chances that a store front in Smallville would just happen to have a Superman "S" shield in a store front window? What if, like when a famous athlete's hometown proudly displays that athlete's professional jersey/number all over town, Smallville is doing the same with Superman? Which would imply that it's general knowledge that Superman is from Smallville, which would also imply that everyone knows Clark Kent is Superman. The fact that there also just happens to be a street named "Clark" in Smallville - per the second pic - backs up this theory even more.

If plot rumors are to be believed - that Clark is a traveling journalist in his early-mid 20s, who, through a series of events and conflicts while covering a escalating story in South Africa (presumably), eventually embraces his other-worldly powers and become Superman - then it's obvious that Clark most likely works for the Daily Planet before becoming Superman, something unique to this interpretation. If that is the case, then "Clark Kent" at the Daily Planet is actually Clark Kent - not a disguise, but his true self. So, what if, when Clark finally does become Superman, he does so in a way that makes it unnecessary to lead a double life, ala Tony Stark in the first Iron Man. What if that's Snyder's/Nolen's/Goyer's way of getting around the whole glasses-hide-his-true-identity thing - something that's becoming harder and harder to believe - by simply getting rid of that concept all together? What if we get our taste of Clark Kent-the-journalist before he becomes Superman, then never again (i.e. once he becomes Superman, he stops working at the Daily Planet). Granted, the whole dual identity thing is part of the fun, but with modern audiences, it really is almost impossible to believe that a man could fool everyone by just putting on some glasses and changing his demeanor a bit. Then again, we'd miss things like ripping open the button-up work shirt to reveal the "S" - and a number of other iconic nuances that go along with Clark Kent-the-disguise - so who knows. They may very well not go that far. I guess we'll find out soon enough...

Clark street is actually a real street in Plano, its just some weird universal coincidence. And I donít like your theory one little bit, no offense.

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Yeah, getting rid of the disguise definitely eliminates a lot of the drama and what makes the character of Superman so unique, so I doubt they'd go that direction. It's just interesting to see that "S" shield in the Smallville store front and street named "Clark" not too far away.
It is just on the store. It doesn't mean that it will even be seen in the movie. It might just be there as a glimpse, it probably doesn't mean anything. Snyder likes to add little details like those, like the glimpse of the Watchmen book in Hollis Mason's bookshelf while he is getting beat up.

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Clark street is actually a real street in Plano, its just some weird universal coincidence.
Good to know. Couldn't tell if that was part of the set or not.

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I always wondered how could Superman be Clark most of the day when he knows there's always crime or accidents that he could prevent? He should be Superman 24/7. Some deleted scene in STM provided a vague answer by Jor-El, but it wasn't enough.

To find out where those crimes and accidents are. At least originally. of course, with super-hearing and all this is different.

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Clark street is actually a real street in Plano, its just some weird universal coincidence. And I donít like your theory one little bit, no offense.
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To find out where those crimes and accidents are. At least originally. of course, with super-hearing and all this is different.
So now he could.

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Old 08-31-2011, 12:32 PM   #13
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I highly doubt they would do this. WB remembers the massive backlash there was when JJ Abrams's script changed all of that continuity.

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I always wondered how could Superman be Clark most of the day when he knows there's always crime or accidents that he could prevent? He should be Superman 24/7. Some deleted scene in STM provided a vague answer by Jor-El, but it wasn't enough.

I could buy the opposite: He becomes Superman 24/7 untill he realises that he needs human interaction or it's just a lonely sad life and decides to become the mild-mannered Clark persona.

Anyways, they need to address the glasses as disguise issue with more than a couple of jokes this time.
Even Superman would go mad if he were flying around the globe constantly saving lives and fighting crime. He would cease to be a person and become nothing more than a tool.

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I always wondered how could Superman be Clark most of the day when he knows there's always crime or accidents that he could prevent? He should be Superman 24/7. Some deleted scene in STM provided a vague answer by Jor-El, but it wasn't enough.

1. Humans would become endlessly reliant on him as a resource to perform those tasks even they can easily perform, as it is their nature to abuse and exhaust any resources available.

2. To protect those he cares for from attack by his enemies.

Not so vague in my opinion, and plenty for me.

IMO "A job for Superman" is more than just a catch phrase it's a mission statement.

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"Clark Kent is who I am....

Superman is what I can do"

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Talk about overanalyzing two out of context set/spy pics.

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I've seen pics of a few other places decorated with Superman stuff. It is a little peculiar.

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I hope they do the opposite what Donner did. Clark is the real guy, Superman is what he can do.

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He'll still need to play off the differences between them somehow, assuming there isn't some sortof Kryptonian holo-mask that changes his appearance.

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How about glasses, different hair AND A HAT!

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If that works for you, sure..

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I wasn't being serious, but I just don't think there's a way to hide Clark's identity in a "realistic" way. Although, someone had a point about different postures for the characters.

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Some people have far to much time on there hands.

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"Clark Kent is who I am....

Superman is what I can do"
Wrong.

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