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Old 08-31-2011, 02:23 PM   #26
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I wasn't being serious, but I just don't think there's a way to hide Clark's identity in a "realistic" way. Although, someone had a point about different postures for the characters.
I've been mentioning there is about 4 or 5 things they could do that would make him look different.

1) Add contact lenses so the eyes look different (Not as part of the story but as make up so it doesn't have to be explained. The audience wont be able to tell)

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A suit that has a bit of padding so when he sits, walks, etc. he looks a little heavier in a natural way around the waistline, and this is not explained either so the audience is tricked into thinking its all about his posture.

3) A little, like a swab of cotton inside Cavill's mouth on each cheek to make his face look a little chubbier. Again, it is so minor that the audience wont be able to tell, put some in your mouth and look in the mirror, it is so minor, that only your family would notice.

But all those things combined with maybe even veneers for the teeth as Clark will make him look different. The audience will never catch on to this and of course this is not added to the script. It is just that plus good make up and he should look different. The only thing explained to the audience is he has glasses on and his posture is different. They will just think "Wow he looks really different as Clark with just glasses, different hair and different posture."

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Old 08-31-2011, 02:27 PM   #27
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Wrong.
You should probably add more than just a one word response since now the questions will come about what you mean. I guess that will give you 2 posts though instead of one.

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Old 08-31-2011, 02:29 PM   #28
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You should probably add more than just a one word response since now the questions will come about what you mean. I guess that will give you 2 posts though instead of one.
Now that's truer to the core dude.


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Old 08-31-2011, 02:47 PM   #29
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You should probably add more than just a one word response since now the questions will come about what you mean. I guess that will give you 2 posts though instead of one.
Ok: "read this":


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Old 08-31-2011, 02:52 PM   #30
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Ok: "read this":
How would that prove that Superman is the real person instead of Clark Kent the real person?

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Old 08-31-2011, 03:17 PM   #31
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It doesn't need to be proven. It's a fact.

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Old 08-31-2011, 03:18 PM   #32
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It doesn't need to be proven. It's a fact.
But, okay, I don't think you get what I am saying. Why is Superman the real person rather than Clark? That is what I mean. How do the comics say that?

Someone says "Clark is the real person"

You say "Wrong, read this:"

Okay, and? What does that say which states Superman is the real person.

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I presume you could just see the dual identity in action, with Clark faking cowardice at times or being less assertive than he's really capable of.

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Old 08-31-2011, 03:46 PM   #34
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I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of a missing Clark disguise.

If you remember Nolan asking Duncan Jones about a possible take for Superman, he replied, something to the effect of "I'd make him like Doctor Manhattan"

So then Nolan then went to the cinematic creator of Doctor Manhattan, Zach Snyder.

Doctor Manhattan doesn't have a disguise, he's simply an all powerful being living on Earth and trying to make sense of things.

Its a crazy thought but it is a different take.

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Old 08-31-2011, 03:51 PM   #35
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A different take that isn't really superman.

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Old 08-31-2011, 04:02 PM   #36
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Well what they could do is play the entire movie without him disguised as Clark Kent, then have him sport the disguise at end like they did in
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:12 PM   #37
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I always wondered how could Superman be Clark most of the day when he knows there's always crime or accidents that he could prevent? He should be Superman 24/7. Some deleted scene in STM provided a vague answer by Jor-El, but it wasn't enough.

I could buy the opposite: He becomes Superman 24/7 untill he realises that he needs human interaction or it's just a lonely sad life and decides to become the mild-mannered Clark persona.

Anyways, they need to address the glasses as disguise issue with more than a couple of jokes this time.
He can't be Superman all the time. Clark Kent allows him a chance to take a break and a live norman human life. Plus, as a reporter, he can fight the good fight through journalism. So both roles can go towards his mission of helping the world.

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Old 08-31-2011, 04:49 PM   #38
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But, okay, I don't think you get what I am saying. Why is Superman the real person rather than Clark? That is what I mean. How do the comics say that?

Someone says "Clark is the real person"

You say "Wrong, read this:"

Okay, and? What does that say which states Superman is the real person.
It's clear in every story. Clark feigns cowardice, Lois sneers at him in disgust, Clark knowingly grins to himself because the man she loves and the man she despises are one and the same. Clark Kent is an act; Superman is who he really is.

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Old 08-31-2011, 05:19 PM   #39
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Why would they have a shield that looks different from the "real" shield if they're showing support in the movie?

It's just there because the shop owner put it up and it won't be in the actual movie.

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Old 08-31-2011, 05:20 PM   #40
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Clark Kent (Smallville) - Who he really is.

Clark Kent (reporter in Metropolis) - An act.

Superman - His job/duty/destiny.

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Old 08-31-2011, 05:37 PM   #41
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3) A little, like a swab of cotton inside Cavill's mouth on each cheek to make his face look a little chubbier. Again, it is so minor that the audience wont be able to tell, put some in your mouth and look in the mirror, it is so minor, that only your family would notice.
Didn't Marlon Brando do that for Vito Corleone?

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Old 08-31-2011, 05:57 PM   #42
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Clark Kent will be a disguise.

With any big movie, I've now realized that there's always about 20 stupid conclusions that people come to before the damn thing is released.

They're not going to lose a large part of Superman's character like that, nor are they going to piss on the mythology that the comics offer.


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Old 08-31-2011, 06:00 PM   #43
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They've come pretty damn close a few times though.

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Clark Kent (Smallville) - Who he really is.

Clark Kent (reporter in Metropolis) - An act.

Superman - His job/duty/destiny.
Smallville Clark (whatever that means, is that the guy who eats cake with his parents while whining about not being able to defeat Lex Luthor?) = Superman

No need to make this overly complicated and keep in mind that the whole Smallville chapter should be over the moment Superman moves to Metropolis, it's only the cradle of a hero. The only remnants of this time might be Lana Lang (and Pete Ross... and Lex, perhaps).

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That's the Superman that they modeled Cavill's hair after

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Old 08-31-2011, 07:11 PM   #46
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I always wondered how could Superman be Clark most of the day when he knows there's always crime or accidents that he could prevent? He should be Superman 24/7. Some deleted scene in STM provided a vague answer by Jor-El, but it wasn't enough.

I could buy the opposite: He becomes Superman 24/7 untill he realises that he needs human interaction or it's just a lonely sad life and decides to become the mild-mannered Clark persona.

Anyways, they need to address the glasses as disguise issue with more than a couple of jokes this time.
Wasn't Supes trying to be Supes 24/7 part of the Kingdom Come storyline? It's been so long since I read it. Wasn't that what lead him to retirement?

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The stuff in the shops is there because they're shooting in that city/area. It's a way of welcoming the crew. There was a picture of the window showing a lot of Supes stuff.

Something like that happened with TDKR.

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Old 08-31-2011, 07:39 PM   #48
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"Clark Kent is who I am....

Superman is what I can do"

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Old 08-31-2011, 07:59 PM   #49
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Pretty clearly a reflection from the production behind this camera......

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Old 08-31-2011, 08:27 PM   #50
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Talk about overanalyzing two out of context set/spy pics.


It's reaching and speculating to the max. Not happenin'. The sign in the window is just there b/c Man of Steel is filming there. They painted Supes on one spot.....

I mean...I like to speculate and think about where the plot is going and stuff like that....but.......C'MON MAN!

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