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Old 09-23-2011, 05:29 PM   #51
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She'll probably continue to pose as someone on their side until she's inevitably found out. And then, well........ she dead.

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Old 09-23-2011, 05:31 PM   #52
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You never know. Her involvement with Wo Fat could be a play or a bait and switch.

But it was sort of convenient how her involvement with 5-0 sort of led to the group going to hell and back.

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Do people think that she was originally intended as a genuine part of the team last season, but then the producers decided later on to have her turn traitor, or was it planned all along that she would be a villain? If it was planned all along, does that mean that her backstory of Wo Fat killing a loved one was completely fake, or has he somehow bought her off?

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Old 09-23-2011, 05:49 PM   #54
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Yeah... looks like she'll be working with the team, but they'll probably start showing us that she's been actively hampering the investigation since her arrival...

She probably had a big role in WoFat ambushing Steve with the govener last season

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I think she's going to end up being a double agent working against Wo Fat. Making her just a simple traitor doesn't seem right.

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Do people think that she was originally intended as a genuine part of the team last season, but then the producers decided later on to have her turn traitor, or was it planned all along that she would be a villain? If it was planned all along, does that mean that her backstory of Wo Fat killing a loved one was completely fake, or has he somehow bought her off?
Maybe the person she thought Wo Fat killed was never actually killed & its a work for me or you will never see that person again type of thing

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Ya I wonder what they will do with her.

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He could be blackmailing her...maybe that's why she's working for him.

Given what we've seen of her, I just can't see her working for Wo-fat from the get go. She's helped them out wayyyyyy too many times in trying to capture him.

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He could be blackmailing her...maybe that's why she's working for him.

Given what we've seen of her, I just can't see her working for Wo-fat from the get go. She's helped them out wayyyyyy too many times in trying to capture him.
But maybe she wasn't really helping them to catch him before, but just pretending to.

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Well then she's one heck of a pretender given how she gave up so much intel on Wo-fat to McGarrett in her first appearance to the point that she had pictures and maps posted up all over her apartment walls.

I mean for someone who supposably has been working for Wo-fat from the get go, she sure did give 5-0 a crap load of info on him.

Don't forget that prior to meeting Kaye, Steve had never heard of Wo-fat and his connection to Victor Hess and his father.

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Yeah but you know . . . maybe that's what Wo-Fat wanted. It also gave someone the inside hook on 5-0 to Wo Fat. I mean think about this, Wo Fat has ALWAYS been one step or more ahead of 5-0. Why do you think he was able to escape from the boat? Because she told him! How did Wo Fat know about McGarrett going after the governor? Because she told him.

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he's baiting them....agree with what Vile says here......let them think they are gaining ground when he's coasting three steps ahead

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Well then she's one heck of a pretender given how she gave up so much intel on Wo-fat to McGarrett in her first appearance to the point that she had pictures and maps posted up all over her apartment walls.

I mean for someone who supposably has been working for Wo-fat from the get go, she sure did give 5-0 a crap load of info on him.

Don't forget that prior to meeting Kaye, Steve had never heard of Wo-fat and his connection to Victor Hess and his father.
That's why I wonder whether the producers only later decided that Kaye was going to be a villain, because if you look back at the previous episodes, she seemed to be fully on his side. The real tell would be what she thinks in her own time, because then that wouldn't just be McGarratt's perception of things, but an insight into her own mind as well.

I think now they will probably retcon some things to make it look as if she was deceiving McGarratt all along and was always working with Wo Fat. However, it will be difficult to explain some of these earlier occurrences. I can't imagine, if Wo Fat really did kill someone close to Kaye, that she would be turned so easily.

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Just saying, we know Wo Fat is powerful.

What did Kaye really reveal to McGarrett that McGarrett really couldn't have figured out himself?

She gave him intel on Wo Fat, but she has given Wo Fat ALL the in info on 5-0. 5-0 was nearly destroyed and Wo Fat is still free and clear. He's nigh untouchable at this point. Has Wo Fat ever truly been in danger since we first learned of him? I don't think so.

Think about this, he walked into a maximum security prison and slashed Hess' throat and killed him. Walked out disguised as a prison guard without any trouble and without blinking. This guy is untouchable until McGarrett can figure out Wo Fat's weakness.

Now all that being said, there could be more to Kaye's betrayal than what we've seen. Like I said this could be a play to get in with Wo Fat on her own. Maybe Wo Fat does have leverage on her and is exploiting her to have an insider on the 5-0. It might not be black and white. We'll just have to wait and see. Or maybe she was a turncoat and traitor and in with Wo Fat from the beginning and her entire background was fabricated. Wo Fat would probably have the power to do that. I believe it.

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The thing is that Wo Fat will always be virtually untouchable, as that is one of the classic character's key traits, if not his key trait. He's practically the template for all other series for the recurring villain that always gets away. Even if he does get caught, he will be sure to escape because he'll have someone on the inside.

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That's why I'm saying Kaye giving 5-0 intel on Wo Fat is meaningless.

Wo Fat was never in any danger from that intel she gave them. All it did was really get 5-0 in trouble for going after Wo Fat.

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Well it's not completely meaningless. If she hadn't alerted 5-0 to Wo Fat's existence or activities, they would have completely overlooked him and wouldn't even be investigating him at all. He could go about his business without looking over his shoulder and could strike at them as an unseen enemy. At least now they are onto him. Kaye could still have given Wo Fat info on 5-0 without giving 5-0 info on Wo-Fat.

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Who is the actress joining the team as Kono's replacement next week?

I think Wo Fat is more than just some arms dealer, they way he pulled the hit off suggests they could be going with the spy angle from the original. As for Kaye, I agree with TVO, she has been a plant all along.

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I believe the new girl's name is Lauren German.

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Ohhhhhh, I thought she looked a hottie that I recognized, she was in the short lived Happy Town, good addition to the show.

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i do hope kaye storyline is played out well what ever way they play it she always working for him or just he is forcing her.

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Id prefer her to be a straight up mole/traitor....too many times we get the "ive been forced to betray you because (insert villain name here) is threatening my life,parents, pet cocker spaniel"

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Well Kaye can't be all bad, because she will undoubtedly help to stop criminals, otherwise she will be found out if she stands idly by. The question is how much she will get involved. Will she just provide intel or will she take a more active part and occasionally be in the field?

I wonder how long until Kono is reinstated?

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Agreed. I want her to be a fox in the hen house. Not just another hen with a gun pointed to it's head.

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I think Wo Fat is more than just some arms dealer, they way he pulled the hit off suggests they could be going with the spy angle from the original. As for Kaye, I agree with TVO, she has been a plant all along.
She might have been one all along, but what did the producers of the show intend? Would this "she was one all along" be a retcon if they originally wanted her to be part of the team before deciding to get Lauren German onboard?

I wouldn't mind if, in a nod to the original pilot, Wo-Fat puts someone in a sensory deprivation tank which drives them crazy, and then later captures McGarratt and uses it on him. That could potentially be a season cliffhanger.

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