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Old 07-15-2013, 06:35 PM   #76
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Wow, I am so surprised based off the trailer to see such A-list actors taking on strong racist roles...I cant tell was Brad Pitt a protagonist to the story?

Also...Can you start talking about...And the Oscar goes to..........

The Butler looks good, this looks glorious.

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Old 07-15-2013, 06:40 PM   #77
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But I'm a little disappointed in the trailer to be honest. I expected something more realistic. This thing lays on the black and white caricatures pretty thick.
Eh. I would say Django played the archetypes as caricatures while this movie plays them a too real and brutal to be comfortable with. But that's the point. Try to read The Narrative of Solomon Northup or the NYT articles from the 50s that spotlighted it. I think you can find em all free online.

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Old 07-15-2013, 06:49 PM   #78
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I thought the trailer was fine. You can't have nuanced characterization in a 2 and a half minute trailer.

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I think the trailer's a little deceptive, tbh. Knowing McQueen's other movies, I'm confident this is gonna be less "Hollywood" and more..I dunno, brutal than the trailer suggests.

Anyway, I'm still very much looking forward to this.

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I still love this...

That's a great video.

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It's just too hard to dislike Michael Fassbender.

He should stick to playing good guys.

Even Magneto is more of an anti-hero than a villain.

But I'm a little disappointed in the trailer to be honest. I expected something more realistic. This thing lays on the black and white caricatures pretty thick.
Fassbender's usual likeability may stop his character from being cartoonishly evil.

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Does this director do cartoonish characters in his other films?

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Does this director do cartoonish characters in his other films?
I take it you haven't seen Shame?

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The answer is no btw

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May sound superficial but after Django Unchained's take on slavery and its brutality this trailer just looks like more oscar bait.

It doesn't appear to be taking a different angle than most past pictures about slavery. It doesn't mean it won't be a good movie just doesn't seem that exciting from what I can tell?

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You would be right dear sir. And thanks for answering my question. So apparently the director isn't some fluffy type at all and doesn't deal in black and white characters so why should we be worried about those things?

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This looks great. The premise is truly frightening.

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Wow, there are a lot of excellent, well known people in this. I'm quite impressed with the cast, and I'm pretty excited about it; great trailer.

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May sound superficial but after Django Unchained's take on slavery and its brutality this trailer just looks like more oscar bait.

It doesn't appear to be taking a different angle than most past pictures about slavery. It doesn't mean it won't be a good movie just doesn't seem that exciting from what I can tell?
The weird thing about Django is how little focus there actually is on the slaves. Besides Django they are almost non entities. The film revels in the violence and yet features slaves on swings or just kind of wandering around.

I believe it was Jesse Williams who pointed out how odd it is how before some focus on the slaves setting up for dinner in Candyland there is never much focus given to the slaves or what they are doing and yet the film goes out of its way to show Chistoph Waltz preparing mugs of beer.

Django Unchained was a cartoon as are most of its characters.

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The weird thing about Django is how little focus there actually is on the slaves. Besides Django they are almost non entities. The film revels in the violence and yet slave on swings or just kind of wandering around.

I believe it was Jesse Williams who pointed out how odd it is how before some focus on the slaves setting up for dinner in Candyland there is never much focus given to the slaves or what they are doing and yet the film goes out of its way to show Chistoph Waltz preparing mugs of beer.

Django Unchained was a cartoon as are most of its characters.
Your last line sums of my feelings about DJango Unchained perfectly. It is a fun cartoon and nothing more. I'm not offended by the film at all but I am offended by the idea that DU was the last and most realistic word on the American history of the enslavement of my ancestors.

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Your last line sums of my feelings about DJango Unchained perfectly. It is a fun cartoon and nothing more. I'm not offended by the film at all but I am offended by the idea that DU was the last and most realistic word on the American history of the enslavement of my ancestors.
The fact that people think Django was the most accurate depiction of slavery says less about Django and more about Hollywood's avoidance of the subject.

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And says nothing about 12 years of a Slave.

By embracing a level of violence and language that is usually shied away from Django Unchained was able to sell equally fanciful depiction of the south under the guise of it being "the way it really was."

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True.

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It might just the trailer that looks tamer. I've read from those that have seen this that this makes Django look like a romcom and Fassbender's character will make Calvin Candie look like a puppy.

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I still love this...

the silence from the white directors was hilarious

but one thing i must add is this film is the only film of his to star a black man and it is about slavery of all things kinda hyprocritical

but on a side note as a latino male i am perplexed we never get lead roles i see far more black leads than Hispanic we cant keep going back to benecio and banderas lol

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We need more diversity behind the scenes. That is the biggest issue.

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the fact that Hollywood is forced to put asians in blockbuster films due to how much more overseas market means more than domestic is kind of pathetic

should of been done all on it's own not forced

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the fact that Hollywood is forced to put asians in blockbuster films due to how much more overseas market means more than domestic is kind of pathetic

should of been done all on it's own not forced
Agreed. I don't see what the big deal is about seeing non white heroes on screen. Maybe I'm a liberal sap but I like seeing all sorts of people on screen. I like seeing white people on screen as well I just don't think that white people are anymore or any less interesting or important than anyone else.

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Old 07-15-2013, 10:52 PM   #100
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I find it interesting that the Director and a lot of the actors are British.

And Chinese influence in Hollywood is over-exaggerated.

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