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Old 10-21-2011, 05:06 PM   #51
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Still don't care about the height thing and I don't think normal people will either. I only want Cavill to do a good acting job.

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Old 10-22-2011, 10:09 AM   #52
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To me, everything counts.

The aesthetics for sure, height is just one of many, as is his build, his facial features, eye color, hair, costume etc... that goes into him looking like Superman. Debates likely have more to do with how we individualy think superman ought to look like.

None the less, I'm sure Cavill will do a good job on the acting portion. He surely went out of his way to get the best build he could in the time allowed.

That tells me he is not going to halfass anything, and will do the best job he is able to as Superman.

One thing that really "sells" Superman that is often not talked about is the body language differences with Clark Kent and Superman.

I see Clark Kent as more Beta male, average man, body language, and Superman with more Alpha male body language.

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Old 10-22-2011, 02:40 PM   #53
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Superman is one of the few characters where I do care about his height.

He should be noticeably taller than most of the people he interacts with, IMO. Batman's supposed to be 6'2, but most actors that play him are below that height. Its ok because Batman's height isnt intergal to the idea of a man dressing like a Bat.

With Supes its different. He's a larger than life figure and should look it.

Cavill being 60-6'1ish will definetely help when hes playing clark. Like Supermike said, Clark should be a beta male. I just hope his Superman looks impressive onscreen. It looks good in the pics

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Nothing we can do about it. Just hope that they make him work when he stands. That's about it.

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This is by far the most powerful looking Superman we've had, they managed that so I'm not worried about anything else.

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superman and batman often look the same size in comics lol

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I wholeheartedly agree that it is important that Superman should look taller than the average man. We do not want the Dean Cain effect. However, I think a final height of 6'2" to 6'3" is sufficient to achieve that and Cavill being 6'1" already, all that is required is proper footwear choice for Superman and Clark. There really is no need for perspective tricks. They just need to be mindful when casting extras and minor characters. It doesn't matter that Shannon, Meloni, Costner, Fishburne, etc are the same height as long as group scenes give the impression that they, like Superman, are above average in height. Just make sure that most men cast for the film are actually of average height (5'10"ish) and Cavill will look suitably tall.

Personally, I am against Superman and Batman being abnormally tall in live action adaptations. It makes Bruce and Clark stick out too much. I think respective heights of 6ft-6ft1 and 6ft2-6ft3 are more than sufficient to make this look tall and heroic while allowing them to blend in.

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He looks so cute in that shirt. Awesome pic!

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I want Cavill's sweater. I'm not normally a sweater guy, but that thing is stylin'.

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He is working that sweater.

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Cavill has a cool classy style!

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He is working that sweater.
Damn right!

Just makes you wonder what it'd be like to be hugged by those big sweater covered muscles

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My God, Cavill must have been like, "Here, I have this extra sweater. Let's take a picture together both wearing sweaters. We shall look dashing."

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I understand the height issue some people have and it makes sense to me. I don't want to see Superman dwarfed by other characters, especially not by humans. So if other men in the movie are taller than Henry, then hopefully there will be no shots of them to close to each other. This man is supposed to be an alien and the height is one of the things that give him an otherworldly aura when he is just standing there and not flying or catching a car. Will Henry being 6'1 be a problem, I can honestly say I don't know yet.


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I think that's a muscle sweater.

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One thing that really "sells" Superman that is often not talked about is the body language differences with Clark Kent and Superman.

I see Clark Kent as more Beta male, average man, body language, and Superman with more Alpha male body language.
Alpha? Beta? Catagories imposed on men by other men to rate them by false perceptions of masculinity. Clark and Superman are different but please, can we not bring in those terms to describe it? I don't want a weak Clark I want a different Clark.

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But... Clark IS weak.

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But... Clark IS weak.
Not necessarily. There are different kinds of strength and assertiveness. In a post-modern society, with diverse ideals of masculinity, a morally strong, highly competant Clark who happens to be clumsy, soft-spoken, and not very physically impressive etc. could still be an "alpha" male (as useless as that term is). I think people need reminding that some of the richest, most powerful men in the world (eg. Bill Gates, the late Steve Jobbs, etc) are skinny, glasses wearing nerds. Given the ambition, charisma (in Jobbs' case), toughness, etc. that it took for them to get there, I would hardly describe them as weak, beta males. As early as the Adventures of Superman with George Reeves, it was recognized that Clark Kent needed to be a tough, competent journalist in order to survive at the Daily Planet. Clark and Superman should both be portrayed as "alpha males" but in such different ways that it is hard to believe they are the same person. That is the difficult part of a modern adaptation of Superman.

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Once again, I'm not too concerned with Lennix, Shannon, or Meloni. I highly doubt Cavill with be standing next to Meloni or Lennix. They are probably going to be trying to blow Superman up from a distance. If Cavill wears lifts and use perspective tricks if they do, that is fine. In regards to Shannon, I'm fine with Zod being taller. He is often portrayed as taller and bigger in the comics. I don't think these men are good examples that Cavill will be looking up at most men in his environment. I think the casting of minor characters and extras will be FAR more important in that regard. It will be the general height of extras in Daily Planet, street, and army scenes, that will determine whether or not Clark/Superman looks tall. Not a few major characters, half of whom will likely never be standing next to him.

Nevertheless, now that I think about it, I think Cavill might have been standing on a soapbox in those early spy photos at the Kent farm.



So either way Mike, I think you have nothing to worry about.
If he would be standing on a soapbox or something similair, his legs would be really short.

lets hope that's not the case

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Alpha? Beta? Catagories imposed on men by other men to rate them by false perceptions of masculinity. Clark and Superman are different but please, can we not bring in those terms to describe it? I don't want a weak Clark I want a different Clark.
What about those terms so deeply offends you?

I'll use whatever terms I want.

If you want those terms defined, then ask me to.

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