I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score!

AVEITWITHJAMON · 10-24-2011, 01:08 PM

One thing I hate about when franchises change directors is when the score from the previous movie is totally discarded. Hell sometimes it happens when the director remains the same like with Hellboy 2 and Iron Man 2.

I loved the score for the first Thor movie, I thought it was pretty much perfect in conveying the likes of the main characters and Asgard itself. SO now Branagh aint directing and Jenkins is I just hope she doesnt change the score because when going to see a sequel there is no better feeling than hearing that familiar music again. I dont want the exact same score, as you need to keep it fresh, but I hope the main theme's are definately kept.

Anyone else think the same or would you prefer a new score?

Aeltri · 10-24-2011, 02:26 PM

I think they should keep some of Doyle's stylistic elements but I am also of the opinion that his score was rather lackluster. Thor is no 'Needful Things' that's for sure. I collect and study soundtracks so I guess I am somewhat demanding compared to the more casual listener

. There is so much material to draw from for inspiration that I think someone like James Hannigan should be given a chance this time around. Ironically, going with a different composer may be one good thing that comes out of Branagh's opting out of directing Thor 2.

sgaana · 10-24-2011, 03:03 PM

I admit it -- I really like Doyle's score. I have "The Sons of Odin" in some of the playlists on my iPod, and I always love it when it comes up.

I do sort of agree with people, though, that it doesn't stand out quite as much as you might like music for the Norse God of Thunder to do. I think it's a lovely heroic piece, but it does lack a certain dimension of extra drama that it might have had.

I actually compare it with the score for "How to Train Your Dragon". To be fair, I'm not suggesting that the main themes for HTTYD could be used for Thor, because the HTTYD music is... well, it's very muscular and heroic and exciting, but it's also a little... cartoony. Which completely makes sense for the movie. The movie's Vikings were OTT, so its score needed to be as well.

Thor's shouldn't be as cartoony. But it could stand to be a bit more swashbuckling.

DarknessOfDeath · 10-24-2011, 03:03 PM

I agree they should do a new fresh score but keep using the same pieces through out the score. I love the score to bits.

mclay18 · 10-24-2011, 03:05 PM

Why should it have the exact same score? If Doyle comes back for Thor 2, he wouldn't deliver the same score he did for the first one. He'll probably reuse his themes, but he'd do what Patty Jenkins wants.

Or if they get a different composer, the studio would be wise to reuse Doyle's theme anyway.

Vartha · 10-24-2011, 03:11 PM

Yeah I wouldn't think they would change the Score. I mean each character movie has it's own "feel".
It would make sense if they switched from a different studio TO Marvel Studios, but, that's not the case

Godzilla2000 · 10-24-2011, 03:40 PM

I think for Loki they need to give him a darker, more evil sounding theme since it's pretty clear that he's giving in to the darkness, but they should pretty much keep some basic melodies from the original movie's score of course. Maybe add more heavenly choirs and the anguished wails of a soprano singer during sad moments.

ddddeeee · 10-24-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinouga

I think for Loki they need to give him a darker, more evil sounding theme since it's pretty clear that he's giving in to the darkness, but they should pretty much keep some basic melodies from the original movie's score of course. Maybe add more heavenly choirs and the anguished wails of a soprano singer during sad moments.

I'd say this is very likey. Loki never had a theme to himself. He shared a theme with Thor, who also had his own theme. But their theme, the Son's Of Odin theme, was quite literally destroyed when Loki crossed the bridge. So he'll be needing a new theme. Maybe Silvestri will give us one with TA?

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 10-24-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ddddeeee

I'd say this is very likey. Loki never had a theme to himself. He shared a theme with Thor, who also had his own theme. But their theme, the Son's Of Odin theme, was quite literally destroyed when Loki crossed the bridge. So he'll be needing a new theme. Maybe Silvestri will give us one with TA?

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

Agreed, I loved the music in that scene, in fact I thought the music elevated many scene's in the movie above what they may have been like if there was no music there.

Plenty of scene's spring to mind, the opening voice-over by Odin, the scene you mentioned, Thor approaching The Destroyer powerless, Thor coming back to life, the final scene between Thor and Odin as well as between Thor and Heimdall.

The score just fit superbly with the scene's it conveyed, and thats why I love it so much, so yes, Doyle is a definite must for me.

Avenger · 10-24-2011, 08:31 PM

As long as they bring Doyle back (and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't), then we'll definitely hear the same themes he created for the first movie, but of course expanded upon and added to in order to fit with the new movie. I really hope we don't get another IM1/IM2 situation where they replace the original composer and we get a more generic, less memorable score for the second movie.

Gamma Burst · 10-25-2011, 12:33 PM

I loved the score, specially 'Prologue'!

AVEITWITHJAMON · 10-26-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Avenger

As long as they bring Doyle back (and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't), then we'll definitely hear the same themes he created for the first movie, but of course expanded upon and added to in order to fit with the new movie. I really hope we don't get another IM1/IM2 situation where they replace the original composer and we get a more generic, less memorable score for the second movie.

This is what i'm worried about, IM1's score wasnt that good, but it was better than the one we got for IM2 thats for sure, and the score in Thor was pretty damn good in my eyes, so I just hope they keep the main theme's at least.

chiefchirpa · 10-27-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

This is what i'm worried about, IM1's score wasnt that good, but it was better than the one we got for IM2 thats for sure, and the score in Thor was pretty damn good in my eyes, so I just hope they keep the main theme's at least.

The heck, "Driving with the Top Down" wasn't that good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9PhfUsFvj0

Avenger · 10-27-2011, 01:41 AM

I love that song. I thought it was very catchy and memorable. Whereas Iron Man's new theme in the second movie was basically generic fanfare.

Guhndoi · 10-27-2011, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

This is what i'm worried about, IM1's score wasnt that good, but it was better than the one we got for IM2 thats for sure, and the score in Thor was pretty damn good in my eyes, so I just hope they keep the main theme's at least.

Don't you mean ears?

Vartha · 10-27-2011, 09:38 AM

.....maybe Aveit has a nice visual going on his computer while it plays lol

AVEITWITHJAMON · 10-27-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefchirpa

The heck, "Driving with the Top Down" wasn't that good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9PhfUsFvj0

It was okay, I still wouldnt compare it to the best score's in this genre, but its much better than anything in IM2.

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Originally Posted by Guhndoi

Don't you mean ears?

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Originally Posted by Vartha

.....maybe Aveit has a nice visual going on his computer while it plays lol

Hardy-hardy ha ha

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DarknessOfDeath · 10-27-2011, 10:11 AM

I liked Iron Man's score but I prefer Thor's score and TIH isn't that bad either. My favourite is Can you see Sif er I mean Jane? Urgent Matter, sons of Odin and definately the Prologue.

chiefchirpa · 10-27-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

It was okay, I still wouldnt compare it to the best score's in this genre, but its much better than anything in IM2.

Of course, but "Driving with Top Down" doesn't sound that "superhero" and more like natural metal & electronica tune coming out of an action movie. Like in the youtube comments, someone would turn it on his car radio as his morning drive jam. Put in Thor's tune or Superman's people notice it's coming out of a superhero movie.

And yeah Debney's IM2 is just not memorable at all.

Vartha · 10-27-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

It was okay, I still wouldnt compare it to the best score's in this genre, but its much better than anything in IM2.

Hardy-hardy ha ha

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WHAT? I was sticking up for ya!

Imagine THIS on your media player

Lady Marion · 10-27-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vartha

Imagine THIS on your media player

What is that?

Did I smoke something bad?

I like the soundtrack and they should keep some memorable themes, Thor's theme or 'Prologue' for instance. And it would be cool if Loki gets an own theme particulary when he's still the villain. Something dark that you know by the sound when he's coming.

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Originally Posted by ddddeeee

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

Exactly

Gamma Burst · 10-27-2011, 08:25 PM

Yes, I too hope Doyle stays for the sequel.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 10-31-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefchirpa

Of course, but "Driving with Top Down" doesn't sound that "superhero" and more like natural metal & electronica tune coming out of an action movie. Like in the youtube comments, someone would turn it on his car radio as his morning drive jam. Put in Thor's tune or Superman's people notice it's coming out of a superhero movie.

And yeah Debney's IM2 is just not memorable at all.

I personally didnt think Thor's was a typical superhero movie score and thats what I liked about it, it was different and mainly, epic.

Iron Man's was also different but not in that good of a way, it was a bit low-key (or should that be Loki

). But, it was better than anything in IM2.

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Originally Posted by Vartha

WHAT? I was sticking up for ya!

I know I know

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Godzilla2000 · 10-31-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ddddeeee

I'd say this is very likey. Loki never had a theme to himself. He shared a theme with Thor, who also had his own theme. But their theme, the Son's Of Odin theme, was quite literally destroyed when Loki crossed the bridge. So he'll be needing a new theme. Maybe Silvestri will give us one with TA?

Regardless of who creates Loki his own theme, I think to reflect his growing megalomania and madness it should be a dark and discordant theme, perhaps accentuated with some demonic male chanting and pipe organs in the background.

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Originally Posted by ddddeeee

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

Yes, I agree that the music Doyle came up with for that scene pretty much enhanced that scene. It was just a heartbreaking thing to watch with that strain of music playing along with it because it was quite a beautiful movement.

Ultra Lantern · 11-23-2011, 12:11 AM

I'd like the same score.

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10-24-2011, 01:08 PM	#1
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,481	I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! One thing I hate about when franchises change directors is when the score from the previous movie is totally discarded. Hell sometimes it happens when the director remains the same like with Hellboy 2 and Iron Man 2. I loved the score for the first Thor movie, I thought it was pretty much perfect in conveying the likes of the main characters and Asgard itself. SO now Branagh aint directing and Jenkins is I just hope she doesnt change the score because when going to see a sequel there is no better feeling than hearing that familiar music again. I dont want the exact same score, as you need to keep it fresh, but I hope the main theme's are definately kept. Anyone else think the same or would you prefer a new score? __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5

10-24-2011, 02:26 PM	#2
Aeltri Elf in Training Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alfheim Posts: 218	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I think they should keep some of Doyle's stylistic elements but I am also of the opinion that his score was rather lackluster. Thor is no 'Needful Things' that's for sure. I collect and study soundtracks so I guess I am somewhat demanding compared to the more casual listener . There is so much material to draw from for inspiration that I think someone like James Hannigan should be given a chance this time around. Ironically, going with a different composer may be one good thing that comes out of Branagh's opting out of directing Thor 2. Last edited by Aeltri; 10-24-2011 at 10:42 PM.

10-24-2011, 03:03 PM	#3
sgaana Side-Kick Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 262	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I admit it -- I really like Doyle's score. I have "The Sons of Odin" in some of the playlists on my iPod, and I always love it when it comes up. I do sort of agree with people, though, that it doesn't stand out quite as much as you might like music for the Norse God of Thunder to do. I think it's a lovely heroic piece, but it does lack a certain dimension of extra drama that it might have had. I actually compare it with the score for "How to Train Your Dragon". To be fair, I'm not suggesting that the main themes for HTTYD could be used for Thor, because the HTTYD music is... well, it's very muscular and heroic and exciting, but it's also a little... cartoony. Which completely makes sense for the movie. The movie's Vikings were OTT, so its score needed to be as well. Thor's shouldn't be as cartoony. But it could stand to be a bit more swashbuckling.

10-24-2011, 03:03 PM	#4
DarknessOfDeath Lost in the darkness... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In Jean Grey's(The White Phoenix of the Crown)arms Posts: 25,927	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I agree they should do a new fresh score but keep using the same pieces through out the score. I love the score to bits. __________________ "Mutation...it is the key to our evolution. It is how we've evolved into a single cell organism and into the dominate species of the planet. This process is slow, taking thousands and thousands of years but every few millennia, evolution leaps forward.” – Jean Grey, X-Men II: United; played by Famke Janssen. Please read my fan fic of X-Men III Here. :)

10-24-2011, 03:05 PM	#5
mclay18 Justice is coming Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,662	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! Why should it have the exact same score? If Doyle comes back for Thor 2, he wouldn't deliver the same score he did for the first one. He'll probably reuse his themes, but he'd do what Patty Jenkins wants. Or if they get a different composer, the studio would be wise to reuse Doyle's theme anyway. __________________ Think McFly Think "Come Think With Us."

10-24-2011, 03:11 PM	#6
Vartha Mod of Thunder SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: north west Arkansas Posts: 22,204	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! Yeah I wouldn't think they would change the Score. I mean each character movie has it's own "feel". It would make sense if they switched from a different studio TO Marvel Studios, but, that's not the case __________________ Responsibility, Duty, Honor these are not mere virtues to which we must aspire they're Essential...to every soldier ....to every King. THOR MAY 6TH 2011 http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group...ghtythormovie/

10-24-2011, 03:40 PM	#7
Godzilla2000 Guardian Angel Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In a place of Eternal Rebirth. Posts: 4,665	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I think for Loki they need to give him a darker, more evil sounding theme since it's pretty clear that he's giving in to the darkness, but they should pretty much keep some basic melodies from the original movie's score of course. Maybe add more heavenly choirs and the anguished wails of a soprano singer during sad moments. __________________ "You're not just anyone. One day, you're going to have to make a choice. You have to decide what kind of man you want to grow up to be. Whoever that man is, good character or bad, it's going to change the world." - Jonathan Kent, Man Of Steel "I have been uncompromising, peppery, intractable, monomaniacal, tactless, volatile, and oftentimes disagreeable... I suppose I'm larger than life." - Betty Davis - Compassion is what separates human beings from animals.

10-24-2011, 08:31 PM	#10
Avenger Earth's Mightiest Fanboy Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New England Posts: 669	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! As long as they bring Doyle back (and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't), then we'll definitely hear the same themes he created for the first movie, but of course expanded upon and added to in order to fit with the new movie. I really hope we don't get another IM1/IM2 situation where they replace the original composer and we get a more generic, less memorable score for the second movie.

10-25-2011, 12:33 PM	#11
Gamma Burst Banned User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Avenger's Mansion Posts: 8,629	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I loved the score, specially 'Prologue'!

10-27-2011, 01:41 AM	#14
Avenger Earth's Mightiest Fanboy Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New England Posts: 669	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I love that song. I thought it was very catchy and memorable. Whereas Iron Man's new theme in the second movie was basically generic fanfare.

10-27-2011, 09:38 AM	#16
Vartha Mod of Thunder SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: north west Arkansas Posts: 22,204	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! .....maybe Aveit has a nice visual going on his computer while it plays lol __________________ Responsibility, Duty, Honor these are not mere virtues to which we must aspire they're Essential...to every soldier ....to every King. THOR MAY 6TH 2011 http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group...ghtythormovie/

10-27-2011, 10:11 AM	#18
DarknessOfDeath Lost in the darkness... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In Jean Grey's(The White Phoenix of the Crown)arms Posts: 25,927	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I liked Iron Man's score but I prefer Thor's score and TIH isn't that bad either. My favourite is Can you see Sif er I mean Jane? Urgent Matter, sons of Odin and definately the Prologue. __________________ "Mutation...it is the key to our evolution. It is how we've evolved into a single cell organism and into the dominate species of the planet. This process is slow, taking thousands and thousands of years but every few millennia, evolution leaps forward.” – Jean Grey, X-Men II: United; played by Famke Janssen. Please read my fan fic of X-Men III Here. :)

10-27-2011, 08:25 PM	#22
Gamma Burst Banned User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Avenger's Mansion Posts: 8,629	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! Yes, I too hope Doyle stays for the sequel.

11-23-2011, 12:11 AM	#25
Ultra Lantern In Darkest Night! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The future Posts: 5,307	Re: I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! I'd like the same score. __________________ My journey from 500 years in the future is to change the chaos inflicted by The Thread Manager.I know the fate of everyone.I only have one weakness.I have to recharge my ring every 72 hours.

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