Thor 2 news, speculation and pictures possible Spoilers - Part 1

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by herolee10

I guess that's possible. It's just that there was nothing that i saw in "Thor" that indicated to me that Loki would already have a child in the MCU. Unless they have more issues than he would have with Laufey.lol

That's true, but in the comics there really wasn't anything to indicated that Loki had a daughter until Hela was actually introduced.

It's not like they have a healthy "father/daughter" relationship, to be honest they don't even act like they're related most of the time.

[Godzilla2000]

I think the only answer to Loki conceiving Hela and having her be about his age in the timeline is Time Travel. Three years is an awfully long time for Loki to come up with things to keep him amused you know. Who's to say he didn't ride the time stream to the past after leaving the constraints of Asgard and get a Frost Giant female pregnant with Hela. It could be yet another offense Odin could list to hang over Loki's head, the abuse of Time Travel.

Speaking of Odin and Loki, I have a feeling all the death and destruction he'll be causing on Earth in the Avengers will hurt Odin more than Loki realizes. Earth seems to be a favorite place for Odin and for the man he adopted as a son to abuse it the way he most likely will is a very big betrayal of all that Odin hoped to teach Loki about the fragile balance of universal order.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by Jinouga

I think the only answer to Loki conceiving Hela and having her be about his age in the timeline is Time Travel. Three years is an awfully long time for Loki to come up with things to keep him amused you know. Who's to say he didn't ride the time stream to the past after leaving the constraints of Asgard and get a Frost Giant female pregnant with Hela. It could be yet another offense Odin could list to hang over Loki's head, the abuse of Time Travel.

In the words of Jesus from Family Guy "Ehhh, let's not muddy things up here", Loki is about a thousand years old so he could easily have a daughter who's several centuries old.

[herolee10]

There are some things that I'd definitely like to see explored before Thor's franchise is done:

1. How does Thor deal with the fact that he'll most likely outlive all of his newly acquainted comrades from Earth (the Avengers) or any mortal that he may have befriended?

2. Man, I really want to see Thor's Earthly Origins (Elder God) explored. I think the concept alone that half of his heritage is that of a Elder God could really be exciting to see if done right.

3. Thor finally becoming King

4. Siege of Asgard; I want it to be on the scale of how Peter Jackson showed the Minas Tirith being attacked by Sauron

5. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Thor have some kind of special destiny when it comes to that "Ragnarok" ordeal? I'd definitely like to see that as well.

[Gamma Burst]

Unfortunately, Thor dies in Ragnarok... However, his two sons, Magni and Modi, survive it.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by Odinson

Unfortunately, Thor dies in Ragnarok... However, his two sons, Magni and Modi, survive it.

Really? I could have sworn that i read a description saying that Thor is the only one that ends up surviving that and that in the past Ragnaroks, he would always be the one to survive it and end up being put into a deep sleep afterwards. Damn Wiki's.lol

[Godzilla2000]

Originally Posted by herolee10

Really? I could have sworn that i read a description saying that Thor is the only one that ends up surviving that and that in the past Ragnaroks, he would always be the one to survive it and end up being put into a deep sleep afterwards. Damn Wiki's.lol

I find it interesting how Balder's death initiates the events leading to Ragnarok but Thor's survival is basically the big ol' reset button. Loki thought he had it bad, imagine being Balder.

[04nbod]

Originally Posted by Odinson

Unfortunately, Thor dies in Ragnarok... However, his two sons, Magni and Modi, survive it.

That's myth Odinson, not continuity. Thor should never ever be bound by it. Its so limiting. If Stan had created an adaptation we'd have a violent, ginger hothead.

[Gamma Burst]

I know that, 04nbod. I just thought herolee was talking about the Myth.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by herolee10

There are some things that I'd definitely like to see explored before Thor's franchise is done:

1. How does Thor deal with the fact that he'll most likely outlive all of his newly acquainted comrades from Earth (the Avengers) or any mortal that he may have befriended?

2. Man, I really want to see Thor's Earthly Origins (Elder God) explored. I think the concept alone that half of his heritage is that of a Elder God could really be exciting to see if done right.

3. Thor finally becoming King

4. Siege of Asgard; I want it to be on the scale of how Peter Jackson showed the Minas Tirith being attacked by Sauron

5. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Thor have some kind of special destiny when it comes to that "Ragnarok" ordeal? I'd definitely like to see that as well.

I definately would like to see all of those things before the end of this franchise, especially the Siede of Asgard and Thor becoming King.

Also whenever Thor finds out about his Elder God heritage I would like to see him utilize his ability to create chasms in the Earth.

[Shadowlord X]

Originally Posted by herolee10

There are some things that I'd definitely like to see explored before Thor's franchise is done:

1. How does Thor deal with the fact that he'll most likely outlive all of his newly acquainted comrades from Earth (the Avengers) or any mortal that he may have befriended?

2. Man, I really want to see Thor's Earthly Origins (Elder God) explored. I think the concept alone that half of his heritage is that of a Elder God could really be exciting to see if done right.
3. Thor finally becoming King

4. Siege of Asgard; I want it to be on the scale of how Peter Jackson showed the Minas Tirith being attacked by Sauron

5. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Thor have some kind of special destiny when it comes to that "Ragnarok" ordeal? I'd definitely like to see that as well.

This could a really exciting plot device in that THOR learning that Frigga is not his real mother leads to an estrangement between himself and Odin. This could then cause THOR to abandon Asgard and choose Midgard as his new home. I would love to see that movie end (final scene) with THOR floating high above Earth and loudly declaring:

"This realm is now under my protection!"

[Gamma Burst]

Originally Posted by Shadowlord X

This could a really exciting plot device in that THOR learning that Frigga is not his real mother leads to an estrangement between himself and Odin. This could then cause THOR to abandon Asgard and choose Midgard as his new home. I would love to see that movie end (final scene) with THOR floating high above Earth and loudly declaring:

"This realm is now under my protection!"

Thumbs up to this.

[DOOZlovesBOOZ]

After avengers, i really need to find one of those "CLICK" remotes so i can fast forward time. I CAN'T WAIT for an epic Thor journey. I really want them to delve deep into the realms. As much as i love the first movie, i want the the setting for THOR 2 to be the opposite of the first. LESS midgard, MORE realms. Thor just has so much to offer.

[Gamma Burst]

Originally Posted by DOOZlovesBOOZ

After avengers, i really need to find one of those "CLICK" remotes so i can fast forward time. I CAN'T WAIT for an epic Thor journey. I really want them to delve deep into the realms. As much as i love the first movie, i want the the setting for THOR 2 to be the opposite of the first. LESS midgard, MORE realms. Thor just has so much to offer.

True! I hope we forget a bit about Midgard in the sequel. Let the focus be, for the most part, on Asgard and other realms.

[steintym]

I don't know, I'm probably in the minority, but I liked the mix (Earth and Asgard) we got in Thor. I'd like some of the other realms explored, but I also like seeing Thor be a hero on Earth. In fact, since he was powerless most of his time on Earth, i'd like to see him with his full powers this go around. Maybe the Avengers will get me my fill.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by steintym

I don't know, I'm probably in the minority, but I liked the mix (Earth and Asgard) we got in Thor. I'd like some of the other realms explored, but I also like seeing Thor be a hero on Earth. In fact, since he was powerless most of his time on Earth, i'd like to see him with his full powers this go around. Maybe the Avengers will get me my fill.

I want more Midgard, too....but I don't want to see a depowered Thor wandering aimlessly around a podunk desert burg in New Mexico this time around. Take the action to Scandinavia, where it's appropriate; and/or a big city for some street-smashing action.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

I want more Midgard, too....but I don't want to see a depowered Thor wandering aimlessly around a podunk desert burg in New Mexico this time around. Take the action to a big city for some street-smashing action.

This is exactly why I want Thor 3 to be a mix of Earth and Asgardian realms, because while Thor unleasing in Asgard is awesome I still want to see some proper street smashing action in the big city.

[herolee10]

I wonder if we'll ever get to see something like this in the Thor franchise; let alone in Thor 2:

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by herolee10

I wonder if we'll ever get to see something like this in the Thor franchise; let alone in Thor 2:

I don't know about Thor 2 because we would just be coming off of two films with Loki as the main villain, I say save it for Thor 3.

[Godzilla2000]

Originally Posted by BigThor

I don't know about Thor 2 because we would just be coming off of two films with Loki as the main villain, I say save it for Thor 3.

For Thor 2 I would go with Thanos as the main villain, but Loki's activities from the Avengers needs to be properly addressed. Loki should not be totally excluded from the movies though since he is an Asgardian prince. I'd have Thanos be the direct cause of Loki's new, aggressive attitude. If Thanos is as ruthless as you comic fans state I'm sure Loki encountered him and has been on the receiving end of some beat downs and physical torture from him while he was in self exile. Maybe even have Thanos blackmail Loki into helping him get the Infinity Gauntlet from Odin's armory, maybe Loki committing one sin to prevent an even worse one?

[Crimson King]

I love Thanos, but he needs to be an Avengers villain. I wouldn't mind some hint of him in the after-credits scene, though.

[BigThor]

^ True, I say have Malekith as the main villain in Thor II with Amora and Executioner as his cohorts with Loki playing a more "behind the scenes role".

[marcvader]

Originally Posted by BigThor

^ True, I say have Malekith as the main villain in Thor II with Amora and Executioner as his cohorts with Loki playing a more "behind the scenes role".

Agreed. Thor has too good of a rogues gallery to not take advantage of.

[Gamma Burst]

I wonder if Malekith is significantly higher than Enchantress in sorcery department.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by marcvader

Agreed. Thor has too good of a rogues gallery to not take advantage of.

Yeah Thor's rogues gallery is up there with Superman and Spider-Man's, I hope they take advantage of that in these films.

Originally Posted by Odinson

I wonder if Malekith is significantly higher than Enchantress in sorcery department.

It's hard to tell because they use their abilities differently, quite different actually.

Encantress uses her powers in a more flashy manner like energy attacks and force fields while Malekith uses his to augument his strength, shapeshift, or use magical relics.