The Official ASM THEATRICAL TRAILER Thread!

[spideyguy16]

Originally Posted by Pac-Master

Right now, I'm reading all the early reactions to the leaked teaser back from July on this board. It's getting me pumped for the next one.

LOL! This post by itsleroy made me laugh.

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=567

[VenomSpawn]

Originally Posted by Pac-Master

Right now, I'm reading all the early reactions to the leaked teaser back from July on this board. It's getting me pumped for the next one.

LOL! This post by itsleroy made me laugh.

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=567

[©KAW]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

And you don't need to tell the origin story again to erase Sandman as Uncle Ben's killer. That's just a waste of an hour to get rid of a stupid retcon.
Furthermore, I wasn't saying that I didn't want to see the origin story again, I said that audiences might be apprehensive about seeing Spider-Man's origin for the second time in 10 years.

I wish Sandman being Uncle Ben's killer was just a stupid retcon, to me it even ruined the origin from the original movie. His origin is now a complete joke, and so is Spider-Man himself as a hero, for letting someone associated with Ben's death go scout free without a fight. The origin, Spider-Man as a character and the motif "With Great Power..." was ruined. That calls for a major reboot starting from point A.

Plus, people would have continued to call this movie a vague Spider-Man 4 film (like they did with Superman Returns). I love the origin being included, starting it over, so there's nothing anyone can say about this NOT being its own movie.

[Spiderman6592]

I'm with KAW on all points. Watching SM1s origin leaves a bad taste in my mouth because the guy Spider-Man attacked didn't even do what Peter was after him for...

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

I'm with KAW on all points. Watching SM1s origin leaves a bad taste in my mouth because the guy Spider-Man attacked didn't even do what Peter was after him for...

I never had a problem with it. But that's just me.

[Spiderman6592]

How can you not? It cheapens the gravity of the scene between the "killer" and Peter...

"Please just give me a chance! Just give me a chance!"

"What about my uncle!? Did you give him a chance!? Did you!?"

That was os incredibly intense and just...awesome but now it's just like...

"lol he didn't even kill him idiot"

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by ©KAW

I wish Sandman being Uncle Ben's killer was just a stupid retcon, to me it even ruined the origin from the original movie. His origin is now a complete joke, and so is Spider-Man himself as a hero, for letting someone associated with Ben's death go scout free without a fight. The origin, Spider-Man as a character and the motif "With Great Power..." was ruined. That calls for a major reboot starting from point A.

Plus, people would have continued to call this movie a vague Spider-Man 4 film (like they did with Superman Returns). I love the origin being included, starting it over, so there's nothing anyone can say about this NOT being its own movie.

And instead, people will be bored waiting an hour before they get to see what they payed for.

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

I'm with KAW on all points. Watching SM1s origin leaves a bad taste in my mouth because the guy Spider-Man attacked didn't even do what Peter was after him for...

If it weren't for the explicit contradiction of established continuity, there would actually be a lot of story potential in Peter having to deal with his entire raison d'être being invalidated and having to find a new purpose in life.

[Spiderman6592]

Yeah, maybe if the killer in SM1 even mentioned that he didn't kill anyone...but he doesn't. Maybe if Carradine explicitly said, "BUT I DIDN'T KILL ANYONE!" and Peter attacked him anyway. But even then it puts Peter in all sorts of trouble for not being responsible. No matter how pathetically you attempt to defend that AWFUL retcon, it ends badly.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by Gwendolyn Stacy

I never had a problem with it. But that's just me.

Same here.

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

How can you not? It cheapens the gravity of the scene between the "killer" and Peter...

"Please just give me a chance! Just give me a chance!"

"What about my uncle!? Did you give him a chance!? Did you!?"

That was os incredibly intense and just...awesome but now it's just like...

"lol he didn't even kill him idiot"

For me, it's because I see Sandman killing Uncle Ben for what it is: A ******** retcon. And thus, I dismiss it.

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

How can you not? It cheapens the gravity of the scene between the "killer" and Peter...

"Please just give me a chance! Just give me a chance!"

"What about my uncle!? Did you give him a chance!? Did you!?"

That was os incredibly intense and just...awesome but now it's just like...

"lol he didn't even kill him idiot"

Well, I thought it was done well.

[Spiderman6592]

As I said, it cheapens it. Spidey's origins needed to be retold for multiple reasons, but I've had this argument countless times and I'm not about to get into it again.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

Yeah, maybe if the killer in SM1 even mentioned that he didn't kill anyone...but he doesn't. Maybe if Carradine explicitly said, "BUT I DIDN'T KILL ANYONE!" and Peter attacked him anyway. But even then it puts Peter in all sorts of trouble for not being responsible. No matter how pathetically you attempt to defend that AWFUL retcon, it ends badly.

I said "it had potential". It wasn't explored in the slightest nor used for anything other than providing a reason for Peter to want to kill Sandman, but the potential for an interesting story is there.

[©KAW]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

Considering that those two movies, ESPECIALLY The Dark Knight Rises, are TASM's biggest competitors, they do.

Again, no they don't. Competition is something that has always happened between studios at the box office, it's nothing new, you talk as if it is. I've seen movies promoted for over a year, come out and flop.

I've seen Shrek 3, Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 3 all come out in weeks of each other. Every fanboy from the three films was saying which one will be crushed and have their money ripped from them. What ended up happening, they all made a ton of freakin' money...oh yeah...and they all sucked echoing ass!!!

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

As I said, it cheapens it. Spidey's origins needed to be retold for multiple reasons, but I've had this argument countless times and I'm not about to get into it again.

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I was just stating my opinion.

[Troy_Parker]

Originally Posted by Gwendolyn Stacy

Well, I thought it was done well.

I don't think anybody's saying that that scene wasn't done well, it was the retcon in Spider-Man 3 that ruins that scene in Spider-Man 1.

[Spiderman6592]

Precisely, I loved SM1's origin until that blasphemy occurred.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

As I said, it cheapens it. Spidey's origins needed to be retold for multiple reasons, but I've had this argument countless times and I'm not about to get into it again.

No it doesn't. I can easily ignore the retcon, and I do every time I watch Spider-Man.

[Spiderman6592]

Well then you're a lucky man.

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

I don't think anybody's saying that that scene wasn't done well, it was the retcon in Spider-Man 3 that ruins that scene in Spider-Man 1.

I meant that I thought that the Sandman storyline was done well.

[Spiderman6592]

Oof. That's your opinion, though I'd say you're in a very small minority.

[©KAW]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

And instead, people will be bored waiting an hour before they get to see what they payed for.

Then let those MOFOs wait, stay or go home, this is the goddamn Spider-Man!

[Troy_Parker]

Originally Posted by ©KAW

Again, no they don't. Competition is something that has always happened between studios at the box office, it's nothing new, you talk as if it is. I've seen movies promoted for over a year, come out and flop.

Again, yes they do. You're telling me that "competition is something that has always happened between studios at the box office, it's nothing new"... yet you fail to see how these 3 movies will be competing against each other?

It's obvious that all 3 of these movies are going to make a ****LOAD of money. Especially TDKR and TASM. We're talking about which movie will make the most.

Originally Posted by ©KAW

I've seen Shrek 3, Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 3 all come out in weeks of each other. Every fanboy from the three films was saying which one will be crushed and have their money ripped from them. What ended up happening, they all made a ton of freakin' money...oh yeah...and they all sucked echoing ass!!!

Because all 3 of those movies are comic book movies.

._.

[VenomSpawn]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

And instead, people will be bored waiting an hour before they get to see what they payed for.

What? I don't know about any of you guys, but I'll be paying to see the start of a new Spider-Man franchise. I'm not seeing this movie for 2 hours of Spider-Man kicking ass.

If I wanted 2 hours of ass kicking, I'd just watch a mindless action flick. I want to be immersed in a story, and I can't get that without a proper character set up. Leaving the origin out would take me out of the story completely.

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Originally Posted by Spiderman6592

Oof. That's your opinion, though I'd say you're in a very small minority.

Yeah. I feel like me and SpiderManHero 12 are the only people here that really love Spider-Man 3.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by Gwendolyn Stacy

I meant that I thought that the Sandman storyline was done well.

To me, Sandman and his story were too underdeveloped to be worth the time it occupied in a film that was too stuffed for its own good. I would have much rather his screen-time gone to developing either the Peter/Harry rivalry or the Symbiote arc and/or Venom.