Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?

[OutRiddled]

First time I saw Batman Begins I walked out of the theatre and I was like . Compared to the first time I saw Batman '89 which was .

But best superhero origin movie? Superman wins by a landslide. The whole beginning on Krypton is one of the best movie sequences ever.

Spiderman..... gets bitten by a spider. Lame.

Iron Man was pretty good, though.

Haven't seen Captain America.

Anyway, I think they should have directly adapted Batman: Year One. That is my favourite Batman origin story.

[CConn]

As soon as someone seriously uses "Lame" to prove a point, I suddenly care less about what they have to say.

[Bruce_Begins]

Originally Posted by OutRiddled

First time I saw Batman Begins I walked out of the theatre and I was like :dry: . Compared to the first time I saw Batman '89 which was .

But best superhero origin movie? Superman wins by a landslide. The whole beginning on Krypton is one of the best movie sequences ever.

Spiderman..... gets bitten by a spider. Lame.

Iron Man was pretty good, though.

Haven't seen Captain America.

Anyway, I think they should have directly adapted Batman: Year One. That is my favourite Batman origin story.

Really ?

But, That is the established origin of Spider-Man, if you find it Lame then, why go and watch the movie ?

[OutRiddled]

Originally Posted by Bruce_Begins

Really ?

But, That is the established origin of Spider-Man, if you find it Lame then, why go and watch the movie ?

The first two Spiderman films are pretty good.

Spiderman just has my least favourite origin, compared to Superman, Batman and Iron Man.

[Fudgie]

Batman's origin is cool and Begins did it brilliantly.

[RocknJock]

Batman Begins / Superman: TM / Iron Man / Spider-Man

Cream of the origin crop, as far as it goes for me.

[Winged Avenger]

Batman Begins is the Best Origin Film Ever!!!!! Superman: The Movie is the 2nd Best Origin Film!!!!

[CConn]

Yay!!!!

[OutRiddled]

Batman Begins is a good movie and I have appreciated it more over time. Same with Spiderman and X-Men (partially an origin story, I think?).

[WildcatNC]

Iron Man is the best. Batman 89 is second.

Probably Spider-Man and Superman next.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by WildcatNC

Iron Man is the best. Batman 89 is second.

Probably Spider-Man and Superman next.

Does Batman even count as an origin film?

[The Morningstar]

No. Batman 89 isn't really an origin movie.

Anyway Begins isn't the best, because it leaves out too many essential things that make up the Batman character.

[WildcatNC]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

Does Batman even count as an origin film?

Yea, your right I guess. I was just thinking the first movie of the storyline.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

Does Batman even count as an origin film?

It might. It shows the character and how it all began. And you cana ctually see the hero in action, that's gotta count for something.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

It might. It shows the character and how it all began. And you cana ctually see the hero in action, that's gotta count for something.

But that's not really the focus of the film, so I don't think it counts.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

But that's not really the focus of the film, so I don't think it counts.

What do you mean it wasn't really the focus?

[CConn]

The focus was the emergence of Batman in Gotham, if B89 isn't an origin, then YO wouldn't be an origin either.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

What do you mean it wasn't really the focus?

Well, Bruce's parents' murder is shown, but it's a short flashback, and Bruce's training is not shown at all. That, and Sam Hamm and Tim Burton's intentions were to not tell an origin story.

[Godzilla2014]

Originally Posted by CConn

The focus was the emergence of Batman in Gotham, if B89 isn't an origin, then YO wouldn't be an origin either.

That's not what qualifies an origin story. An origin story is about how the hero came to be. In Batman, he's already Batman by the time the film starts. Batman: Year One shows much more of Bruce's evolution towards becoming Batman much more by comparison.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by CConn

The focus was the emergence of Batman in Gotham, if B89 isn't an origin, then YO wouldn't be an origin either.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

Well, Bruce's parents' murder is shown, but it's a short flashback, and Bruce's training is not shown at all. That, and Sam Hamm and Tim Burton's intentions were to not tell an origin story.

Bruce's killing got more or less the same screentime than in Batman begins. it's not like Begins showed 30 minutes of Chill killing the Waynes while B89 30 seconds.

And then, if I'm not mistakenm Superman's training wa snot shown in STM. So, is it not an origin film wither?

Now I cannot give a damn about any director's intentions. What the movie showed was there, no more nor less. If they didn't want to show the origin, then they failed. But, if I'm not again mistaken, their intention was NOT not to show the origin but to keep it a secret while Batman was introduced to keep him a total mistery.

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

That's not what qualifies an origin story. An origin story is about how the hero came to be. In Batman, he's already Batman by the time the film starts. Batman: Year One shows much more of Bruce's evolution towards becoming Batman much more by comparison.

When Batman Begins starts he's half-way into Batman. We know about Bruce's parents killing through a flashback, just like, a certain other Batman movie. Same as Batman Year One.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

That's not what qualifies an origin story. An origin story is about how the hero came to be. In Batman, he's already Batman by the time the film starts. Batman: Year One shows much more of Bruce's evolution towards becoming Batman much more by comparison.

YO shows more evolution sure, but Batman very much details Batman's psychological scarring and advancement from his childhood trauma to adulthood. He very much evolves and grows as a character throughout the film.

[Falcone]

My top three in order:

3. Thor.
2. BB.
1. Spiderman.

[CConn]

Thor?

[The Morningstar]

I think Thor introduced us to him and his world very well. It succeeded where GL failed, in terms of "out there" concepts being executed well. It was also a great origin for Loki as well. It was his path towards villainy as much as it was Thor's towards heroism.

But i wouldn't put it in my top 3.

1. Iron Man
2. Batman Begins
3. Spider-Man

[Falcone]

I liked Thor. It takes the superhero origin formula and puts it into a unique environment. I think Spiderman is, by itself, a better film than BB. It really set the paradigm for origin stories in the 21st century.

But if you look at BB as in the first chapter of TDK saga, it makes much more sense has merit by that standard. The themes aren't as deep in Spiderman, but it's engaging, well-cast, and the action is tops. Also, despite a lighthearted atmosphere, it still does have a little substance.