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Old 09-02-2012, 01:39 PM   #501
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I think it'll be a Phase 3 movie.
Maybe it'll happen in like 2030. They won't be making (paying for ) a mostly underwater movie anytime soon

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Well in 2014 they're making a movie set mostly at the other end of space :P

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Old 09-02-2012, 01:56 PM   #503
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Which is not nearly as difficult as making a convincing underwater film, especially with people talking and walking around in the water.

Cameron apparently intends to do it whenever he gets around to making Avatar 2, maybe it'll be less daunting/expensive after he invents his tech

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Old 09-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #504
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I thought that was just a joke on Entourage, and was for Aquaman.

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Old 09-02-2012, 02:22 PM   #505
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No, Cameron loves deep sea diving and loves underwater filming (see: Abyss, Titanic, both his IMAX docs). He keeps saying he wants Avatar 2 to be underwater.

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Maybe not. I'm just still confused how it's "simply" powered by something neither Loki nor Thanos had. The scepter was powered when we briefly see The Other hand it to Loki.

Not sure why it's hard to believe a mind-tricking villain wouldn't give up a part something in order to have it as a whole.
The Hydra weapons were powered by the cube's energy but they weren't attached to it at all times. The scepter could easily have been made many years prior, perhaps at a time when Thanos possessed the cube, or maybe it was an old Asgardian weapon that Thanos came into possession of. Or maybe Whedon just didn't think of that when he wrote the script. Either way, it requires several more leaps of logic to think it's the mind gem than it does to assume the film isn't lying to you.

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The Hydra weapons were powered by the cube's energy but they weren't attached to it at all times. The scepter could easily have been made many years prior, perhaps at a time when Thanos possessed the cube, or maybe it was an old Asgardian weapon that Thanos came into possession of. Or maybe Whedon just didn't think of that when he wrote the script. Either way, it requires several more leaps of logic to think it's the mind gem than it does to assume the film isn't lying to you.
Hmm Yeah the Hydra weapons weren't always attached to the cube, but we saw Skull actually wield the cube. Therefore, like you say, either Thanos or Odin creating the scepter in the past is the only reasonable explanation. Of course, this wouldn't be the first time we look too much into things

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No I was talking about the Namor thing. The joke on Entourage was that James Cameron's Aquaman would make billions of dollars. I don't believe he's ever come out and said he wants to make a Namor or Aquaman movie.

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Old 09-02-2012, 05:06 PM   #509
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I never said that he had? Just that the Avatar sequel would feature people walking around and talking underwater, and that Cameron was developing new tech for it

Like how his character mocap tech was later used for the Hulk

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Oh, I thought when you said 'Cameron apparently intends to do it' you were referring to Cameron making a Namor movie.

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Yeah, but that scene takes place before Thor and Loki take the Cube back to Asgard. I meant, wasn't the sceptre shown in Central Park? Or any time *after* Thor and Loki went back home with their toy?

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That scene in the screenshot is the last time we see the scepter. Basically why I assume SHIELD still has it

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What do you guys want to see in Avengers 2? Not in terms of plot, but stuff like funny dialogue and scenes (Hulk smash Loki, Hulk punch Loki, Hulk in general).

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Old 09-03-2012, 04:59 AM   #514
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Along those lines, (slapstick humor) I'd like to see Thor Mjolnir Ultron's head off while Ultron is monologue-ing. And yes I just used Mjolnir as a verb.

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I want to hear Iron Man say "Oil Can! Oil Can!"

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The general plotline is Thanos sends the Skrulls to take an Infinity Gem that SHIELD have found on Earth, and if they don't give it up they'll take it by excessive force, aka an invasion. Except the final battle is in Asgard.

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Where did Hawkeye get that arrow -.- Oh, and I spotted this Namor/Oracle easter egg in Avengers.... https://twitter.com/Jasper_UTF/statu...295168/photo/1

When Hawkeye ran out of arrow shafts, he went back to the bodies of Chitauri he had shot and pulled used shafts out. Then he unscrewed the spent arrowheads from the shafts, put them back in his quiver and reused them. He did that several times, including when he was forced to jump off a building near the end.

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When Hawkeye ran out of arrow shafts, he went back to the bodies of Chitauri he had shot and pulled used shafts out. Then he unscrewed the spent arrowheads from the shafts, put them back in his quiver and reused them. He did that several times, including when he was forced to jump off a building near the end.
Fair enough.

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The general plotline is Thanos sends the Skrulls to take an Infinity Gem that SHIELD have found on Earth, and if they don't give it up they'll take it by excessive force, aka an invasion. Except the final battle is in Asgard.

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Nah. We just had an alien invasion. I am hoping for Ultron

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I dislike Ultron. Plus, it's not an invasion if Earth GIVE the Skrulls the Infinity Gem.

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I dislike Ultron. Plus, it's not an invasion if Earth GIVE the Skrulls the Infinity Gem.
We already had aliens.

With Ant-man happening, Ultron will be inevitable. Avengers2, or 3, or 4 or whenever.

How do you dislike Ultron? I think he is great. When I think of Avengers villains, he is the first one that comes to mind for me

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For the story arc they have going now it doesnt make a lot of sense to have Ultron come into the picture..it clearly seems set up for Thanos and a cosmic theme phase II

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Not once has Kevin Fiege mentioned Ultron, but he is continuously talking about Thanos and going cosmic for Phase 2. You can have a successful character arc for Hank without Ultron. Plus, the Infinity Gauntlet is better done as a standalone epic, either a trilogy or a two-parter. Then Ultron can be in Avengers 3.

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Not once has Kevin Fiege mentioned Ultron, but he is continuously talking about Thanos and going cosmic for Phase 2. You can have a successful character arc for Hank without Ultron. Plus, the Infinity Gauntlet is better done as a standalone epic, either a trilogy or a two-parter. Then Ultron can be in Avengers 3.
The reason I am convinced on Ultron is 1 of two things.

1.What Joss has said about the sequel.

2. I am CONVICED that the third avengers film will be an infinity gauntlet centered movie. Not Avengers 2. Since the gauntlet hasn't been officially presented in the MCU, I feel like one movie with Thanos isn't enough to display the scale of the gauntlet, and who he is and what it is capable of. Sort of how the tesseract was. That being said, whether he has a lot of screen time in avengers 2, I have a good feeling that he will be the primary villain of Avengers 3. Which sort of leads me to believe there may be another villain for Avengers 2. And if there is going to be another villain besides Thanos, it seems like Ultron could possibly be the next.

Yes, a pym story isn't necessarily needing the inclusion of ultron, but the fact that they are really pushing ant man before avengers two, I wouldnt be surprised if Ultron becomes the villain

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If Ant-Man does become a Phase 3 movie (which I doubt it will be) they can easily be introduced in Avengers 2. Plus in the script I'm writing there's plenty of references to Ultron, with Tony saying "he's devoted his life to some AI that will never work," and Pym is at a Vibranium mining operation in Wakanda, plus when Fury tells Stark that "he needs him to come in," Tony replies, "What is it this time? Skynet?"

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