Ultimate Spider-Man animated series discussion thread

[SevenWebHeads]

Hey guys,
check out my fanmade ultimate spider-man intro
feauting batman beyond music

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

[Sebastos]

Originally Posted by Alvin Draper

I think the show is fine but too much randomness. When Spidey explains things he goes into too much detail.
What bothers me is how "Ultimate" was slapped on to the title, the show hardly resembles the Ultimate Spider-Man comics.
Also, the whole "SHIELD tech" stuff is a bit meh. Probably added to sell toys.

Other than that I like it.

There are a few elements from the USM comics actually.

[Mistah K88]

With this show I think it will mainly be based on the Ultimate series with hints of the regular 616 thrown in, where Spectacular Spidey was just an updated 616 with bits of Ultimate thrown in. Things like Aunt May having a life and MJ wanting to be a journalist are all from Ultimate.

One thing that I'm sure has been mentioned is the fact that this show needs to "show not tell". When EVERYTHING is narrated to you...it feels like it's dumbing things down.

[Spidey220987]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/ultimates...n/media/grabs/

some new pics there, e.g. the fire

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by SevenWebHeads

Hey guys,
check out my fanmade ultimate spider-man intro
feauting batman beyond music

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Fixed (if you insert youtube link, don't add anything beside what is after the '=')
And welcome to the boards

[socool]

Originally Posted by SevenWebHeads

Hey guys,
check out my fanmade ultimate spider-man intro
feauting batman beyond music

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Dude this is ****ing awesome! If you can make a version that doesn't show the S.H.E.I.L.D. stuff, you make it look like the Batman: Animated Series of Spider-Man shows.

[craigdbfan]

A bit disappointed they didn't make an opening intro. That seems to be the trend lately Thundercats, Young Justice, and now Ultimate. They even truncated and sort of butchered EMH intro with a narrator who sounds bored and poor sound mixing between that and what was left of the intro song. It was perfect before.

[Thwip!]

Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

Don't you guys mean 'the art style'

Aye i do, twas animating in toon boom while writing it so must've been stuck in my mind :P

i just prefer how TSSM looked, it ranked up there for me with TASM

i dare say i would nearly put USM below unlimited if i was ranking the cartoons

Originally Posted by SevenWebHeads

Hey guys,
check out my fanmade ultimate spider-man intro
feauting batman beyond music

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

My word you are on to something there.

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

When do the ratings for this thing come in?

[EliteF50]

I wish it was less random, didn't focus so much on SHIELD, was more the Ultimate Spider-man comics and the goofy sound effects were taken out, but other than that, it's not bad. Pretty enjoyable so far. I'm sure it'll get better.

[EliteF50]

Originally Posted by Spidey220987

http://marvel.toonzone.net/ultimates...n/media/grabs/

some new pics there, e.g. the fire

See, this is the kind of crap that will make me hate the show.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/ultimates...a/grabs/11.jpg

Here's hoping there's isn't too much of it.

[Spidey220987]

Originally Posted by EliteF50

See, this is the kind of crap that will make me hate the show.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/ultimates...a/grabs/11.jpg

Here's hoping there's isn't too much of it.

The first time I saw that scene in a promo, it made me laugh

In comparisons with Batman: TB&TB, Batman does explain stuff to the viewers, but the only difference is he doesn't freeze time. That show also has cutaways. Although both do occur, it just doesn't happen as frequent.

I seriously can't have been the only person who really enjoyed what's been on show so far lol. If people can accept Smallville for what it is (basically a butchering of the Superman mythos - for example introducing Lois at High School? OK lol), then they should be able to accept this.

PS I was able to accept Smallville for what it was, before you bash me

[Sebastos]

New clip for Sunday's episode:

http://marvel.com/news/story/18442/u...sode_3_preview

[Spidey220987]

Originally Posted by Iron Fist

New clip for Sunday's episode:

http://marvel.com/news/story/18442/u...sode_3_preview

friendly competition lol.

[Savage]

Hahaaa neat. The fun aspects of super powers.

[Panthro]

So they're not forcing Carlie Cooper into this series?

[Sebastos]

Never know.

[Pep]

After having watched every preview clip and read every extensive review that had been released before the debut, I was fully expecting a well-produced show for kids that was watchable, if a little muddled. I was surprised to see that it actually fell well below these expectations. So far, this show is a mess.

USM is the end result of multiple writers and producers all with completely different ideas and approaches aiming towards a single target from multiple angles and trajectories, all expecting to hit it simultaneously. Has that kind of approach ever worked well for anything? Because I'm not sure why they were expecting it to work for Spider-Man. You can feel the committee-driven production process as it drifts deftly from mostly unfunny comedy to unconvincing drama. It tries to be Teen Titans and Brave and the Bold, but completely ignores the fact that those shows took very stringent approaches to get their intended comedic effect. If anyone ever questioned why those shows did things like disregarding civilian identities altogether, USM provides the answer.

There were attempts at depth, but the series just can't stay grounded enough for it to work, leading to the "show, don't tell" issue that others have brought up. That was a huge problem with Aunt May in particular. Maybe that kind of thing will improve later, but the serious elements feel more like afterthoughts that they just couldn't bear to leave behind at the conceptual stage. Maybe I wouldn't have minded seeing Norman Osborn and Flash Thompson stripped of all their depth if the show had been a straight comedy, but the end result we get with them is really a let down.

The art style is really... bland. It's more detailed than TSSM's designs, but the actual quality of the designs is a mixed bag. As with that show, most of the quality we see is in Spider-Man's design and the villains he fights. The characters are quite unexpressive, which I found to be very noticeable with Peter when he was out of the mask. The backgrounds look pretty good. They stand out the most.

They say this show is focused almost exclusively on kids, but I sense that it wasn't the intention and the final product just kind of turned out that way. I suspect that a lot of things in this show didn't turn out the way they wanted. They clearly wanted to make a show that was distinct from the 90s cartoon and Spectacular, but as a result they created something that will alienate a huge chunk of Spider-Man's periphery demographic. (Those fanbases are more similar than they'd like to admit, as they're both mainly composed of men in their 20s and 30s.) I will watch a couple more episodes, mainly because I'm very interested in seeing how the show holds up with Paul Dini isn't writing it, but I doubt I'll be sticking around much longer.

[Spider-Aziz]

I think this show is really fun, and I really like seeing Cage and Rand animated as this is long overdue

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[MikeFrost]

When you set out to make a "show for kids" you're already shooting yourself in the foot because what that actually means is that you'll probably settle for generic and assinine plots and stupid premises because "it's just for kids".

Problem is that even that normally falls short because kids aren't stupid people and you should never treat them like so. Also, while setting to make a show for everyone there's a huge chance you actually manage to get an audience other than your kids. If you target a wider demographic with a show, you'll always hit your smaller intended one (kids) and you'll probably make something watchable for older people too. By narrowing it down you risk not even having the demographic you were shooting for in the first place...

[MarvelKnight]

Originally Posted by Iron Fist

New clip for Sunday's episode:

http://marvel.com/news/story/18442/u...sode_3_preview

Wow............

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

I think this show is really fun, and I really like seeing Cage and Rand animated as this is long overdue

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They were animated in Super Hero Squad and they were more faithful to their characters there.

Think carefully about what I just wrote.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by GamerSlyRatchet

They were animated in Super Hero Squad and they were more faithful to their characters there.

Think carefully about what I just wrote.

Watched their appearance there, and I didn't have enough, so it was overdue making them more prominent

They might make them more faithful later, here's hoping

[GoldGoblin]

This show kinda seems too goofy too be any good.

[EliteF50]

After watching episode 2, I can safely say that I'm going to enjoy this show for what it is. Is it as good as SSM or STAS? Not even close. Is it mildly humorous and beautifully animated? Yes.