The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - Part 5

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by socool

Eddie's reason for hating Peter was...meh. It wasn't really weak, I would be mad at someone for getting me fired (even though it was his fault) b.

Just like the comics, only the movie venom had better motivations. LOL.

[Venom'sDad]

Originally Posted by Venom75

Being a HUGE Venom fanatic,even I will admit that Brock's reasons for hating Peter/Spider-man in both the comics and film were weak. I think the best job I've seen as to why Brock would really hate Peter is thanks to SSM. In that series,they were best friends at the start,so that would make it even more personal between the two.
But...let's not forget,at least later on,the symbiote's influence. That thing would've driven Eddie mad with hatred.

Quite frankly, I have not seen a good reason in any incarnation, comics, animation, or film, for Eddie hatred of Pete/Spidey. They are all bad, weak, and not well thought out.

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by Venom'sDad

Quite frankly, I have not seen a good reason in any incarnation, comics, animation, or film, for Eddie hatred of Pete/Spidey. They are all bad, weak, and not well thought out.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by webhead731

The way I saw it was, he was unstable. He looked nice and seemed to carry himself well, but inside he was a mess. I imagine he had a bad childhood and maybe a father that makes Red look like Danny Tanner.

I just figure he's so nuts, those things we consider petty are just the end of the world for him.

The way you saw it. Exactly. What we got in the film was a total mess that changed up Eddie's personality at the snap of the wrist. It didn't make any sense.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by Dragon

Honestly I think both of you guys have it right. Ock is Peter Prker gone wrong. Eddie/Venom (In Spidey 3) is Peter Parker/Spider-Man gone wrong. Or perhaps Ock is Peter's mirror in terms of the application of his intellect, whereas Eddie is Peter's mirror in terms of his emotional life.

I second this.

[Rodrigo90]

Just finished watching Spider-Man on C5

[Orb]

I remember seeing a TV spot for Spider-man 3 revealing the Giant Sandman figthing Harry and Spider-man and I rushed to the hype to explain what I saw and nobody believed me because I don't think we knew about it then and I was ignored. Told y'all!

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I think I remember that.

[Troy_Parker]

Lol I remember when like, 9 minutes of the final battle was leaked online. (from a pirate copy of the movie, close to the release date)

I also remember a VERY blurry and almost inaudible FULL version of the mirror scene (where Peter sees a nightmarish symbiote version of himself) on YouTube. Only saw that thing once. Wonder if anybody has it.

[Spidey_62]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

Lol I remember when like, 9 minutes of the final battle was leaked online. (from a pirate copy of the movie, close to the release date

I remember watching like the first 10 seconds of that then restraining myself from watching anymore lol.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

Lol I remember when like, 9 minutes of the final battle was leaked online. (from a pirate copy of the movie, close to the release date)

I also remember a VERY blurry and almost inaudible FULL version of the mirror scene (where Peter sees a nightmarish symbiote version of himself) on YouTube. Only saw that thing once. Wonder if anybody has it.

You mean this?

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

[Troy_Parker]

Originally Posted by Orb

You mean this?

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

;O

Yes!

I didn't remember the trailer bit, but remembered that scene. Seemed longer in my head.

Anyways, thanks!

[Orb]

No problem. Why couldn't the AMS trailer leak like that?

It would have been better than nothing.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by Spidey_62

I remember watching like the first 10 seconds of that then restraining myself from watching anymore lol.

I couldn't help myself, lol. Although, I stopped at about 2 minutes in, lol.

[KurtMysterio]

The final battle got leaked online in Italian.

"CIAO, PARKER!"

[Spider-ManHero12]

Lol, that was italian?

[Anno_Domini]

I remember watching Giant Sandman form and I yawned.

[C. Lee]

Originally Posted by Venom'sDad

Quite frankly, I have not seen a good reason in any incarnation, comics, animation, or film, for Eddie hatred of Pete/Spidey. They are all bad, weak, and not well thought out.

If you spend any amount of time reading up on real life situations throughout history.....people hating others and not having a good reason for it covers about 95% of the scenerios.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

^Here it is if anyone wants to read it, it's 200+ pages. http://www.sugarbombs.com/kavalier2/chabon.spider.pdf

Saved
Thank you

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

I remember watching Giant Sandman form and I yawned.

Why?

[UltimateWebhead]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

I remember watching Giant Sandman form and I yawned.

LOL. It was a boring, predictable way to have Sandman fight Spidey. He could have done so many other things. I like the way, in the novelization, he formed a giant sand pile and started pushing down on Spidey and crushing him.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I was in awe when I saw Giant Sandman, tbh.

[The Joker]

I hated giant Sandman. The retarded roars and the slow clunky movements of him. It reminded me of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters.

Spidey shouldn't be facing giant enemies like that.

[UltimateWebhead]

Originally Posted by The Joker

I hated giant Sandman. The retarded roars and the slow clunky movements of him. It reminded me of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters.

Spidey shouldn't be facing giant enemies like that.

Exactly. Why would he take the form of a giant, slow moving mass? It makes no sense to try and fight Spidey like that...who is small, and extremely agile.

LOL. At least the Stay Puft Marshmallow man was cool and funny.

[Thebumwhowalks]

Originally Posted by The Joker

I hated giant Sandman. The retarded roars and the slow clunky movements of him. It reminded me of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters.

Spidey shouldn't be facing giant enemies like that.

One reason I liked it was because it reminded me of a classic MTU with Spidey and Thor fighting 'the Living Monolith', so I was used to the idea of Spidey fighting a villan on that scale.
there was some great moments onscreen with the giant Sandman, the image of spidey sliding in the sand as he takes form, when Spidey is standing on the scaffolding as Sandman raises himself up, and nice moments with him and Harry dodging his swipes...it looked fantastic on the big screen especially, it was something completely different from every Spidey fight we'd already seen onscreen.