Breaking News! Kim Jong-il Is Dead!

[Scourge2099]

Originally Posted by Shemtov

The Kim's have the anti-life equation.

Yeah . How do you explain the insane level of control they had.

[Thundercrack85]

I don't think it's necessarily staged. There really are people that deluded. Malnourishment combined with a lifetime of communist propaganda leads to this kind of insanity.

[The_Fire_Rises]

What's your favourite Kim Jong-il story?

Mine is a tie between how he wrote 15,000 books while in university and that when he was born, a double rainbow formed and two stars fell from the sky.

[SV Fan]

Originally Posted by Thundercrack85

I don't think it's necessarily staged. There really are people that deluded. Malnourishment combined with a lifetime of communist propaganda leads to this kind of insanity.

The kids at the monument might not have been staged, but the older people in a room watching TV was obviously staged. Just watch the video it's like everybody was crying on cue, hell one guy looked like he was trying not to laugh.

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[Thundercrack85]

Never underestimate beaten dog syndrome. Though, yeah some probably are faking. But then, if you're not crying convincingly, you can get in a lot of trouble. Some might be tears of joy.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by runawayboulder

There's always somebody more crazy that's willing to taker their place....

And there's where the very possible problem lies

Originally Posted by 8wid

This is going to be called the year of falling tyrants, Bush's imperialist forces left Iraq, Castro, Mubarak, Bin Laden, Gaddafi, Il, whose next?

Thank you

Originally Posted by Midnyte_Sun

Good news.

Not really, he gave his position for his son, he trusts him to carry on what he was doing. Fall of a dictator is only good news if the dictator is replaced by someone good, and leaves behind him/her good fruits of labor

And of course, if the U.S government isn't involved in the repairs, they need to repair what is broken in their homeland before correcting it anywhere else

Originally Posted by CaptainStacy

His son looks like a complete douchebag.

Looks can be deceiving. And even if he's a douchbag now, there's still the potential he'd become more dangerous than his pa

Originally Posted by Marvin

Would people weep for our president?
Just saying

Everyone has those who mourn his/her demise, that's all I can say

[Destructus86]

Originally Posted by Raiden

I'm wondering if Kim's death (and the murky situation regarding his youngest son as the successor and the old guards that are still there) will make it possible for a future reconcilation and reunion of the two Koreas.

I wish...but no. I don't see that happening...maybe not ever. There is not only a completely corrupt government to deal with...but the GENERATIONS of brainwashing to work through.

[Axl Van Sixx]

Originally Posted by Thundercrack85

I don't think it's necessarily staged. There really are people that deluded. Malnourishment combined with a lifetime of xenophobic ultra-nationalist propaganda leads to this kind of insanity.

Fixed it for you.

[Thundercrack85]

Originally Posted by Axl Van Sixx

Fixed it for you.

It's communism. A unique Korean model, but still communism. Perhaps one day we'll call it "Kimism". Offshoot of Stalinist communism.

[8wid]

I think the next leaders to go will be:

1. Nouri al Maliki of Iraq if there is more sectarian violence or a civil war in the country, especially if there is a stand off with the Kurds over the vice-president.
2. Bashaar al-Assad of Syria over their own potential civil war and humanitarian crisis
3. Kim Jung Un of North Korea if there is a cou backed by the military there.
4. Maybe the two party-system in the United States if Ron Paul won the GOP nomination and beat Obama for a second term, he would actually be independent rather than a true member of the other two.

Iran, Pakistan, Algeria, and Myanmar have too the potential to drift towards chaos as well. Cuba and China I think will eventually transition out of communism and socialism for the free market as they have already made major moves in that direction.

[Dr. Evil]

Originally Posted by 8wid

I think the next leaders to go will be:

1. Nouri al Maliki of Iraq if there is more sectarian violence or a civil war in the country, especially if there is a stand off with the Kurds over the vice-president.
2. Bashaar al-Assad of Syria over their own potential civil war and humanitarian crisis
3. Kim Jung Un of North Korea if there is a cou backed by the military there.
4. Maybe the two party-system in the United States if Ron Paul won the GOP nomination and beat Obama for a second term, he would actually be independent rather than a true member of the other two.

Iran, Pakistan, Algeria, and Myanmar have too the potential to drift towards chaos as well. Cuba and China I think will eventually transition out of communism and socialism for the free market as they have already made major moves in that direction.

I think Assad will go into exile in a country that is not a part of the ICC.

Besides, if you turn these despotic leaders over to the ICC, who knows how long those trials are going to last.

[Thundercrack85]

What does it matter? There's no death penalty. Oooh being locked up in a nice cell in the Netherlands, scary.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by 8wid

I think the next leaders to go will be:

1. Nouri al Maliki of Iraq if there is more sectarian violence or a civil war in the country, especially if there is a stand off with the Kurds over the vice-president.
2. Bashaar al-Assad of Syria over their own potential civil war and humanitarian crisis

I really hope these two would fall in the hands of their people and get hit to death, mercilessly

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil

I think Assad will go into exile in a country that is not a part of the ICC.

There are hopes of him getting killed, I hope this would be true, and the aftermath would benefit Syria

[Crazy Quilt]

Originally Posted by 8wid

I think the next leaders to go will be:

1. Nouri al Maliki of Iraq if there is more sectarian violence or a civil war in the country, especially if there is a stand off with the Kurds over the vice-president.
2. Bashaar al-Assad of Syria over their own potential civil war and humanitarian crisis
3. Kim Jung Un of North Korea if there is a cou backed by the military there.
4. Maybe the two party-system in the United States if Ron Paul won the GOP nomination and beat Obama for a second term, he would actually be independent rather than a true member of the other two.

Iran, Pakistan, Algeria, and Myanmar have too the potential to drift towards chaos as well. Cuba and China I think will eventually transition out of communism and socialism for the free market as they have already made major moves in that direction.

China abandoned socialist economics long ago. They don't even have universal healthcare. There is no such thing as a self-correcting, free market.

[Scourge2099]

Cuba's not even communist anymore. Fidel admitted it failed a few years ago. Vietnam's not communist anymore either. I'm not sure about Laos , but I'm sure they embraced capitalism too.

[Destructus86]

Originally Posted by Scourge2099

Cuba's not even communist anymore. Fidel admitted it failed a few years ago. Vietnam's not communist anymore either. I'm not sure about Laos , but I'm sure they embraced capitalism too.

This is true about Cuba.

North Korea is really the only extreme left in the world for the most part. It's just one giant cult of fear and brainwashing.

[Hotwire]

Not sure if it's real or not, but it's funny.

[ripse]

who's next??

[SuperSoldier985]

I had to hear this first on spill.com

[Project862006]

his son looks like Russell from Up!

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Originally Posted by Marvin

Would people weep for our president?
Just saying

Yes. A lot of people would. Is that supposed to be funny or clever?

Respect for the presidency used to mean something. If someone assassinates our head-of-state that would be an awful, awful day. My mom told me once about how the principal of her school came over the intercomm sobbing informing the class that President Kennedy had been shot. The entire school was dismissed that day and everyone went home. She was crying, her parents were crying, Walter Cronkite was choking back tears on the news, everyone was crying. So yes, obviously people would weep.

As for Kim Jong, some were crying out of fear of not appearing sad enough (informers are everywhere), some out of fear of what comes next (better the devil you know than the devil you don't) and some were genuinely sad out of ignorance because they don't know any better.

[Axl Van Sixx]

Originally Posted by Thundercrack85

It's communism. A unique Korean model, but still communism. Perhaps one day we'll call it "Kimism". Offshoot of Stalinist communism.

Wrong. From Wikipedia:

Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless and revolutionary socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production.

North Korea is a separate nation-state. It has classes (as the ruling elite are well aware). It is not based on proletarian internationalism, but race-based nationalism. That has nothing in common with the ideas of Marx. Stalin, yes. Marx or Lenin, no.

[Thundercrack85]

It's a type of communism. And until recently, they openly called it that. They just crossed it out and replaced it with Juche. Different name, same thing. An all controlling state, mass graves, a terrible economy, impoverished citizens, a leader with a cult of personality and an oligarchy of despots. That's communism.

[Marx]

UPDATE: FUNERAL FOR "DEAR LEADER" TO BE HELD TOMORROW
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/27/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2

I know I've said this before but the over-the-top grief that some of these "supporters" are showing is beyond disturbing.

[Axl Van Sixx]

Originally Posted by Thundercrack85

It's a type of communism. And until recently, they openly called it that. They just crossed it out and replaced it with Juche. Different name, same thing. An all controlling state, mass graves, a terrible economy, impoverished citizens, a leader with a cult of personality and an oligarchy of despots. That's communism.

No, that's Stalinism, which has nothing in common with "communism" as it was defined by Marx and Lenin.