Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM?

[Troy_Parker]

I felt that Bruce and Rachel's relationship was more believable. Peter and MJ's just got more and more terrible with each sequel.

[Spider-Aziz]

In the first movie Bruce and Rachel were nice together
Sequel...... :S

Nuff 'Said

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

there seems to be such a blind spot for this tacked on love story, it's TERRIBLE. I listened a reviewer rip into the pete/mj love story and then defend the bruce/rachael love story. it's worse, MUCH worse at least maguire and dunst had chemistry I didn't feel any chemistry with either rachael. 'it's not who I am but what I DOOOOOO that defines me'. ha ha hilarious

Agreed.

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

I felt that Bruce and Rachel's relationship was more believable. Peter and MJ's just got more and more terrible with each sequel.

I never felt like they were really in love. They never displayed any passion. The only time it was displayed deeply in anyway was when, in TDK, Bruce was in tear after Rachel was killed.

Even then I didn't feel anything because she told the guy she wouldn't be with him through a FRICKEN LETTER! That's almost as bad as a text message.

Yeah, at least Peter and Mj actually seemed like there were as in love as they said.

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

In the first movie Bruce and Rachel were nice together
Sequel...... :S

Nuff 'Said

Exactly. In the first movie, it was okay bacuse it wasn't as played up it was just there as it was expected.

But when they started playing it up in TDK as Bruce was ready to give up being Batman because of Dent, it fell flat.

It never felt like they were in love or at least,that Rachel was truly in love with Bruce.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866

I never felt like they were really in love. They never displayed any passion. The only time it was displayed deeply in anyway was when, in TDK, Bruce was in tear after Rachel was killed.

It could be tears for losing a very dear childhood friend as well

[Troy_Parker]

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866

I never felt like they were really in love. They never displayed any passion. The only time it was displayed deeply in anyway was when, in TDK, Bruce was in tear after Rachel was killed.

Even then I didn't feel anything because she told the guy she wouldn't be with him through a FRICKEN LETTER! That's almost as bad as a text message.

Yeah, at least Peter and Mj actually seemed like there were as in love as they said.

Eh, I disagree. It seemed more believable than Peter and MJ's love. More tragic too.

But anyways, back to Spider-Man.

I'm sure Peter and Gwen's relationship in this will blow Peter and MJ's in the previous trilogy out of the water.

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm sure it will be more organic this time

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866

I never felt like they were really in love.

ding! ding! ding!

say what you want about the spidey love story, but peter and mj DEFINATELY felt like they were in love. it seemed genuine, sappy yes, but genuine. bruce and rachael felt tacked on, that nolan included it for no other reason then the female demagrahic wanted it and I bet if he could have he would have dispensed with it. there is no love interest for leo in inception, no love interest in memeto.

bottom line nolan's characters feel cold with little or no warmth, not a big deal because the strength of the story is strong enough to carry everything else but I really don't like male/female relationships in nolan's movies, they feel horribly forced.

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

ding! ding! ding!

say what you want about the spidey love story, but peter and mj DEFINATELY felt like they were in love. it seemed genuine, sappy yes, but genuine. bruce and rachael felt tacked on, that nolan included it for no other reason then the female demagrahic wanted it and I bet if he could have he would have dispensed with it. there is no love interest for leo in inception, no love interest in memeto.

bottom line nolan's characters feel cold with little or no warmth, not a big deal because the strength of the story is strong enough to carry everything else but I really don't like male/female relationships in nolan's movies, they feel horribly forced.

agreed.

[SpaceWay2009]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

Eh, I disagree. It seemed more believable than Peter and MJ's love. More tragic too.

But anyways, back to Spider-Man.

I'm sure Peter and Gwen's relationship in this will blow Peter and MJ's in the previous trilogy out of the water.

I have no doubt about that!

[Eggyman]

Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

I'm sure Peter and Gwen's relationship in this will blow Peter and MJ's in the previous trilogy out of the water.

That will not be hard. I was once in a realtionship with a bag of peanuts that had more emotional content and chemistry than those two chimps had on screen.

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by Eggyman

That will not be hard. I was once in a realtionship with a bag of peanuts that had more emotional content and chemistry than those two chimps had on screen.

A Bag of Peanuts is a beautiful lady. You shoulf be proud.

[Eggyman]

Originally Posted by SpideyFan866

A Bag of Peanuts is a beautiful lady. You shoulf be proud.

I am. Salty.

[mayo23]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

ding! ding! ding!
bottom line nolan's characters feel cold with little or no warmth, not a big deal because the strength of the story is strong enough to carry everything else but I really don't like male/female relationships in nolan's movies, they feel horribly forced.

I actually disagree and this is probably why I don't personally like any of Nolan's films. Tonally, all the Nolan films I've seen (Inception, Batman, Prestige..sorry haven't seen Memento) feel cold and detached and when there is some character development, I just feel it's completely bland and falls flat. I'll definitely say his films are excellent production wise and his stories are interesting and layered, but that doesn't do anything for me.

I've tried watching Batman Begins twice and I've yet to actually watch the entire film from beginning to end. I also feel much of TDK's acclaim and success are due to Heath Ledger's performance. Inception has an interesting idea and is well made, but the supporting characters are one-dimensional, the film relies on too much exposition and the chemistry between the two male and female leads (Leo and Marion) come off as forced and annoying. The most interesting character for me was probably Cillian Murphy.

But yeah I'm strongly biased against Nolan and I'd rather watch the Shawshank Redemption than any of his films.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by mayo23

I actually disagree and this is probably why I don't personally like any of Nolan's films.

you mean you agree?

[mayo23]

holy typo!

[Spectacular23]

I would love to see a final swing. But I doubt it would happen because they're always gonna be that one major troll thats gonna shout out: THEY STOLE THAT FROM SAM RAIMI!!!

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by Spectacular23

I would love to see a final swing. But I doubt it would happen because they're always gonna be that one major troll thats gonna shout out: THEY STOLE THAT FROM SAM RAIMI!!!

Toss the trolls out and say "they took a good thing, now have a pleasant time"

[Smegger56]

The pete/mj relationship on the Raimi films was terrible. Maguire and dust had no chemistry, the dialogue was awful, and the it felt like they where reading from a peice of paper... BADLY.

Was the Bruce/rachael relationship amazing? No. But it didn't suck me out of the film like pete and mj.

Yes, I do think the Nolan films in every aspect are better than the Raimi spidey films. And easily the worst hung from any of those films is the pete/mj relationship.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Smegger56

The pete/mj relationship on the Raimi films was terrible. Maguire and dust had no chemistry

I'm sorry but that just isn't true. for instance the scene with dunst says 'do you love me or not? just one kiss'. that scene means something precisely because they have chemstry. I remember seeing the trailer for SM2 for the very first time and that is the first scene in the trailer and I remember being caught up in that moment and then being shocked when the car comes crashing through the window, if dunst and maguire had no chemistry I would annoyed the trailer was paced so slowly but I was caught up in that moment.

I will conceed the dialogue between the two is cheesy but no way can anyone say they didn't have chemistry, if they had no chemistry then give me examples of characters falling in love who do.

[Smegger56]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

I'm sorry but that just isn't true. for instance the scene with dunst says 'do you love me or not? just one kiss'. that scene means something precisely because they have chemstry. I remember seeing the trailer for SM2 for the very first time and that is the first scene in the trailer and I remember being caught up in that moment and then being shocked when the car comes crashing through the window, if dunst and maguire had no chemistry I would annoyed the trailer was paced so slowly but I was caught up in that moment.

I will conceed the dialogue between the two is cheesy but no way can anyone say they didn't have chemistry, if they had no chemistry then give me examples of characters falling in love who do.

Why should I give example? Everything you've said to me is opinion. Something YOU felt. So saying to me that what I said isn't true is a little bit insulting. What I said is true to me, my opinion. What you said is true for you, your opinion.

Ok, but here we go, I'll play. Titanic. Though the dialogue was cringe worth at times, I felt the love between jack and rose. superman, Christ reeve and marmot kidder. I believed these two actors in their performance. I felt chemistry between the two.

For me, these are FAR SUPERIOR to the spidey flicks for chemistry between the leading man and woman.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Smegger56

Why should I give example? Everything you've said to me is opinion. Something YOU felt. So saying to me that what I said isn't true is a little bit insulting. What I said is true to me, my opinion. What you said is true for you, your opinion.

Ok, but here we go, I'll play. Titanic. Though the dialogue was cringe worth at times, I felt the love between jack and rose. superman, Christ reeve and marmot kidder. I believed these two actors in their performance. I felt chemistry between the two.

For me, these are FAR SUPERIOR to the spidey flicks for chemistry between the leading man and woman.

I agree I felt the chemistry between the people you mention, but I don't agree I felt anything more for those characters than I did for maguire and dunst. we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Smegger56]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

I agree I felt the chemistry between the people you mention, but I don't agree I felt anything more for those characters than I did for maguire and dunst. we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

That we can agree bud. Fingers crossed that Garfield and stone give us a performance we can all go gaga over :-)

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Smegger56

That we can agree bud. Fingers crossed that Garfield and stone give us a performance we can all go gaga over :-)

to be honest I'd rather the movie avoided the love interest cliché but if it is unavoidable then let's hope it is genuine and believeable.