Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? - Page 8

Troy_Parker · 01-22-2012, 05:32 PM

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With Spider-Man it's anything but a cliché. Not sure why you're so against this. :S

Juicy J · 01-22-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

opinions please

Absolutely. If not a final one then at least a good amount of swinging scenes, as those are pretty much my favorite part of any Spider-man movie.

Smegger56 · 01-23-2012, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

to be honest I'd rather the movie avoided the love interest cliché but if it is unavoidable then let's hope it is genuine and believeable.

It will be unavoidable alas. But I dont mind it as long as it's done right. Not many films pull it off convincingly.

spider-neil · 01-23-2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

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With Spider-Man it's anything but a cliché. Not sure why you're so against this. :S

because I want the movie to concentrate on the hero (any by this I mean spider-man) but leave enough for the villain.

in BB and TDK the love interest is barely an after thought so why does the love interest have to be cenrtral to spider-man. haven't we already seen that?

Spider-Aziz · 01-23-2012, 05:43 AM

Final swing has nothing to do with romance
Blend the two since one picture says Gwen learns the truth and treats Peter's wounds, have Pete swinging with Gwen

Troy_Parker · 01-23-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

because I want the movie to concentrate on the hero (any by this I mean spider-man) but leave enough for the villain.

in BB and TDK the love interest is barely an after thought so why does the love interest have to be cenrtral to spider-man. haven't we already seen that?

I'd say Spidey has had more leading ladies in his life than Batman. This movie is called The Amazing Spider-Man, not Peter loves Gwen. But I want to see Gwen's story too, especially a certain tragedy involving her.

Has the plot synopsis, trailer, numerous interviews, set pics/vids and official stills indicated that they're focusing too much on the romantic part of the story? No.

So relax.

UltimateWebhead · 01-23-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Smegger56

The pete/mj relationship on the Raimi films was terrible. Maguire and dust had no chemistry, the dialogue was awful, and the it felt like they where reading from a peice of paper... BADLY.

Was the Bruce/rachael relationship amazing? No. But it didn't suck me out of the film like pete and mj.

Yes, I do think the Nolan films in every aspect are better than the Raimi spidey films. And easily the worst hung from any of those films is the pete/mj relationship.

I disagree. Maguire and Dunst had great chemistry.

Spider-Who? · 01-23-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

have Pete swinging with Gwen

Oh, I agree with this so, so very much.

UltimateWebhead · 01-23-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

I'd say Spidey has had more leading ladies in his life than Batman. This movie is called The Amazing Spider-Man, not Peter loves Gwen. But I want to see Gwen's story too, especially a certain tragedy involving her.

Has the plot synopsis, trailer, numerous interviews, set pics/vids and official stills indicated that they're focusing too much on the romantic part of the story? No.

So relax.

Exactly. This is a Spider-man movie and there WILL be a love story cause let's face it, Pete's life is very much a 'soap opera' of sorts. And just because that is part of the movie doesn't mean that's the main focus.

I am excited to see Gwen Stacy finally brought to the mix and I hope they really bring her character to life in the way it should be and not what we got with SM3. The Pete and Gwen relationship is something I am looking forward to and from what I've heard others say, that saw the CC footage, they seem to have excellent chemistry.

cryptic name · 01-23-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spider-neil

because I want the movie to concentrate on the hero (any by this I mean spider-man) but leave enough for the villain.

in BB and TDK the love interest is barely an after thought so why does the love interest have to be cenrtral to spider-man. haven't we already seen that?

Spider-Man has always been about the melodrama of Peter's relationships as much or more than it has been about the action, which is not the case with Batman or almost any other superhero. Not depicting Peter's love life would be a mistake.

SoNicRaDiATioN · 01-23-2012, 01:01 PM

Webb is a much different director then Raimi. I think the relationships will have a much greater depth of emotion. More subtlty and nuance. It won't feel candy coated and melodramatic.

And you want to create a great emotional connection between the characters and with the audience. When Gwen is killed Peter's anguish will resonate all the more with us. Minimizing or pushing a major part of Peter's life into the background because it's been done before (and poorly) makes no sense.

Troy_Parker · 01-23-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SoNicRaDiATioN

Webb is a much different director then Raimi. I think the relationships will have a much greater depth of emotion. More subtlty and nuance. It won't feel candy coated and melodramatic.

And you want to create a great emotional connection between the characters and with the audience. When Gwen is killed Peter's anguish will resonate all the more with us. Minimizing or pushing a major part of Peter's life into the background because it's been done before (and poorly) makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by cryptic name

Spider-Man has always been about the melodrama of Peter's relationships as much or more than it has been about the action, which is not the case with Batman or almost any other superhero. Not depicting Peter's love life would be a mistake.

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Originally Posted by UltimateWebhead

Exactly. This is a Spider-man movie and there WILL be a love story cause let's face it, Pete's life is very much a 'soap opera' of sorts. And just because that is part of the movie doesn't mean that's the main focus.

I am excited to see Gwen Stacy finally brought to the mix and I hope they really bring her character to life in the way it should be and not what we got with SM3. The Pete and Gwen relationship is something I am looking forward to and from what I've heard others say, that saw the CC footage, they seem to have excellent chemistry.

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Spider-ManHero12 · 01-23-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateWebhead

I disagree. Maguire and Dunst had great chemistry.

Yup. They were fantastic, IMO.

SnuffTheRooster · 01-23-2012, 03:39 PM

they would of been better if they just got card boards cutouts of them to do their job for them. chemistry would of been much better

Casius--J · 01-23-2012, 04:08 PM

So ummm how did a thread for the final swing turn into a debate about romance? lol

Curmudgeon · 01-23-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz

Final swing has nothing to do with romance
Blend the two since one picture says Gwen learns the truth and treats Peter's wounds, have Pete swinging with Gwen

Emma mentioned at comic-con that Gwen would swing with Peter.

Spectacular23 · 01-23-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Emma mentioned at comic-con that Gwen would swing with Peter.

Wow this my first time hearing of this. This should be an interesting thing to see!

hope the swinging scenes are different from Raimi films. But I don't know how they can pull this off, making it different...

UltimateWebhead · 01-23-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Casius--J

So ummm how did a thread for the final swing turn into a debate about romance? lol

Tangents are inevitable.

UltimateWebhead · 01-23-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Emma mentioned at comic-con that Gwen would swing with Peter.

Maybe she meant sexually

SpaceWay2009 · 01-23-2012, 05:52 PM

^I was thinking of that, too. lol Unless, of course, Gwen does find out that Peter is Spider-Man.

Troy_Parker · 01-23-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaceWay2009

^I was thinking of that, too. lol Unless, of course, Gwen does find out that Peter is Spider-Man.

She does.

Look closely, he has the costume in his lap.

AnneFan · 01-23-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

She does.

Look closely, he has the costume in his lap.

Indeed. And Peter isn't going to get such injuries like that from reading a book. He's been out.

spider-neil · 01-23-2012, 06:26 PM

melodrama, angst angst, melodrama, angst.
melodrama, angst angst, melodrama, angst.

Curmudgeon · 01-23-2012, 07:15 PM

My bad guys it was actually Andrew that mentioned it, but Emma talked about it too. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding them...

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

They talk about it at 10:20-ish.

UltimateWebhead · 01-23-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy_Parker

She does.

Look closely, he has the costume in his lap.

Thanks alot Troy!! Spoil the movie for everyone!! Geez!!

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01-22-2012, 05:32 PM	#176
Troy_Parker Banned User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: YooKay Posts: 11,242	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? ... With Spider-Man it's anything but a cliché. Not sure why you're so against this. :S

01-23-2012, 05:43 AM	#180
Spider-Aziz Not in a million years Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 22,058	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? Final swing has nothing to do with romance Blend the two since one picture says Gwen learns the truth and treats Peter's wounds, have Pete swinging with Gwen __________________ I must NEVER post in politics forums Jor-El was right, members of the council of Krypton were wrong

01-23-2012, 01:01 PM	#186
SoNicRaDiATioN marvelpalooza roady Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,103	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? Webb is a much different director then Raimi. I think the relationships will have a much greater depth of emotion. More subtlty and nuance. It won't feel candy coated and melodramatic. And you want to create a great emotional connection between the characters and with the audience. When Gwen is killed Peter's anguish will resonate all the more with us. Minimizing or pushing a major part of Peter's life into the background because it's been done before (and poorly) makes no sense.

01-23-2012, 03:39 PM	#189
SnuffTheRooster Banned User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: vancouver, bc Posts: 492	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? they would of been better if they just got card boards cutouts of them to do their job for them. chemistry would of been much better

01-23-2012, 04:08 PM	#190
Casius--J Web Master Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 3,446	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? So ummm how did a thread for the final swing turn into a debate about romance? lol __________________ "If we can't protect the earth, you can be damn sure we'll avenge it" - Tony Stark

01-23-2012, 05:52 PM	#195
SpaceWay2009 Wall-Crawler Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,721	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? ^I was thinking of that, too. lol Unless, of course, Gwen does find out that Peter is Spider-Man. __________________ "With great power comes with great - Gullibility!" - The Spectacular Spider-Man Reasons as to why TSSM was cancelled: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/....php?qid=14223

01-23-2012, 06:26 PM	#198
spider-neil spins a web any size! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10,081	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? melodrama, angst angst, melodrama, angst. melodrama, angst angst, melodrama, angst.

01-23-2012, 07:15 PM	#199
Curmudgeon Killjoy Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The desert on a horse with no name. Posts: 1,046	Re: Do you want to see a 'final swing' at the end of ASM? My bad guys it was actually Andrew that mentioned it, but Emma talked about it too. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding them... VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: They talk about it at 10:20-ish. __________________ "[Andrew Garfield] brings an emotional authenticity to the character and a level of perfection that's humbling. It's staggering to watch." - Matt Tolmach

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