Batman: Arkham City - - - - - Part 14

[LuisTX85]

Originally Posted by Paradox1

I thought the dialogue was fine for the game. Story and dialogue is a very overrated componet of video games because the majority of players ignore it. I very much doubt that Dini was alone in the writing.

Fully agreed with everything,The dialogue that some seem to have a major problem is actually pretty accurate to much of the Bat comics mythology,Look up many comics&novels(not just'50-'70's)even by top writers and you'll find that or even more"cheesy"dialogue!!!

These are videogames based on a comicbook superhero&his world,I'd be pretty disappointed IF it didn't have any dialogue like that,Them being so"awful"is an OPINION anyway and so"Dini purposely writing awful dialogue"is pretty BS to me!!!

[Venomfan]

Originally Posted by ProjectPat2280

I think RS has actually come out and stated this doesn't fall within any lore from the Batman mythos. They don't want to be tied to any specific lore from Batmans many years of stories. I guess it could be a "spiritual" successor of sorts.

plus barbara gordon never was in the wheelchair in TAS canon, she grew up to take over from her dad in BB

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Originally Posted by GamerSlyRatchet

I highly doubt Hill and Crocker specifically ordered Dini to write purposely awful dialogue between Catwoman and Two-Face at the beginning.

Actually Paul Crocker had a hand in a lot of the dialogue...

Dini was story guy this time out.

And, minus the mishandling of Strange, it was a pretty fun story for a video game.

So... yeah.

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Originally Posted by LuisTX85

Fully agreed with everything,The dialogue that some seem to have a major problem is actually pretty accurate to much of the Bat comics mythology,Look up many comics&novels(not just'50-'70's)even by top writers and you'll find that or even more"cheesy"dialogue!!!

Just because it was in the comic books doesn't mean the dialogue has to be bad. Video games are becoming more of a storytelling media these days. Below average writing and voice acting should no longer be excused.

These are videogames based on a comicbook superhero&his world,I'd be pretty disappointed IF it didn't have any dialogue like that,Them being so"awful"is an OPINION anyway and so"Dini purposely writing awful dialogue"is pretty BS to me!!!

I was only half-kidding when I suggested that.

OF COURSE no one purposely writes bad dialogue. That's just stupid. I do think they were trying their best. It doesn't necessarily mean it worked sometimes.

Originally Posted by Dark Knight90!

Actually Paul Crocker had a hand in a lot of the dialogue...

Dini was story guy this time out.

And, minus the mishandling of Strange, it was a pretty fun story for a video game.

So... yeah.

Interesting.

I did enjoy plenty of moments here and there. Joker was written great, as usual. Mr. Freeze was one of my favorite characters in Batman lore, and they did him justice. Even people I never cared for, like Zsasz and Calendar Man, were creepy and effective. Despite being punked out and becoming disappointing, Hugo Strange had some great lines, and his interview tapes were fun to listen to.

It still doesn't mean that there weren't some atrocious bits of dialogue here and there, and some major plot holes in the story.

[socool]

Originally Posted by Two-Face

I thought he did good with AA's story and he improved with AC's in my opinion.

I have to disagree. Arkham Asylum's story felt stronger because it was very focused. It was all about Joker taking over Arkham and having the time of his life. It was simple, effective, and Dini was able to make it shine. In Arkham City, Dini was forced to work on too many grounds and in the end, didn't focus much of any attention to two of the largest. He had to focus on Joker being sick, Batman being sick, Dr. Strange having control, Ra's' involvement, and all the side missions.

Now, he did the side missions excellently and the Batman/ Joker sickness story worked great, but the Dr. Strange and Ra's parts were practically thrown together last second. Protocol 10 was literally useless, Ra's never came off as the mastermind type, (even though he clearly is.) and Dr. Strange was completely pathetic. I can't really blame Dini too much for that, though. Rocksteady obviously included Joker because everyone likes Joker and probably told him to focus strongly on his side of the story. (Some Dini probably didn't have to struggle with since he writes an excellent Joker.) It may seem like I'm bashing the game's story, but I'm not. I did quite enjoy it. I just feel like they both falsely advertised the focus on Dr. Strange, and misused Ra's potential.

So there.

[AnneFan]

Originally Posted by Pfeiffer-Pfan

it was a pretty fun story for a video game.

I can see what people mean in their criticisms, but ultimately I agree with this.

[Bruce Malone]

I'm a bit confused with this new Harley quinn dlc. Is it actually new story gameplay? and also would you have to have had purchased the robin/nightwing dlcs?

[Paradox1]

Yes it's a story Dlc and no I'm not sure if you need the robin/nightwing bundle.

[Kane52630]

The story was fine in Arkham City (though it could've added more content to Strange), I just prefer Arkham Asylum's story more because it had that level of fear when you are exploring the ins and outs of Arkham as you try to secure Arkham.

Gameplay wise? Arkham City beats Asylum by a mile.

[socool]

Originally Posted by Kane52630

The story was fine in Arkham City (though it could've added more content to Strange), I just prefer Arkham Asylum's story more because it had that level of fear when you are exploring the ins and outs of Arkham as you try to secure Arkham.

Gameplay wise? Arkham City beats Asylum by a mile.

Completely agreed. Despite my essay above about the story's flaws, I still enjoyed it and it doesn't detract for the amazing gameplay that Arkham City featured.

[Bruce Malone]

Gameplay/Feel wise wise arkham city was more epic adventure. Asylum however had more of that suspense thriller vibe with its dark claustrophobic hallways and just the feel of the surroundings.

[LuisTX85]

Yup!

[badgrammar]

I wish Hideo Kojima made a Detective Batman game similar to Snatcher.

[The Slang]

Has anyone else noticed the Harley DLC trophies appear on their arkham city trophy list? I just noticed that they're on my console. What's up with that?

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by The Slang

Has anyone else noticed the Harley DLC trophies appear on their arkham city trophy list? I just noticed that they're on my console. What's up with that?

Hm, thats interesting. They were prob added during the last update in prep for the new DLC. Maybe they weren't supposed to go up?

[The Caped Knight]

FAQ from Sarah May

Originally Posted by Sarah May

Game of the Year and Harley Quinn's Revenge FAQ
Hi all,

We are incredibly thrilled by the awesome response we had to our announcement yesterday about Harley Quinn's Revenge and the Game of the Year Edition of the game.

There have been a lot of questions so below is an FAQ!

HARLEY QUINN'S REVENGE

How much will it cost?
800 points on Xbox Live and $9.99 on Playstation Network

Do I need to buy the Game of the Year edition to play it?
No

Do I need to own Arkham City to play it?
Yes

When can I buy it on its own?
From May 29th onwards (both Xbox Live and Playstation Network)

Is it coming to PC?
Yes, we will be announcing more details soon

Are there new achievements?
Oh yes!

Who do I play as?
You will switch between Robin and Batman within the DLC.

Do I need the Robin DLC to play Harley Quinn's Revenge?
No

How long is the content?
Over 2 hours and all new environments

Are there any Easter eggs?Is this the last DLC?What are you doing next?
You will have to wait and see!


GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION

Will the game come with a code to redeem all the content?
No, the game comes with an additional disc with all the content on. Just select what you want to download and you're good to go.

Do I need internet access to download all the DLC included?
No, all the DLC is on the disc.

When is the game released in my region?
May 29th : North America
September: Europe, Australia and other territories

Why the delay between North America and other territories?
Each of the territories determined the best time to release Batman: Arkham City Game of the Year Edition. The territories outside of North America felt that September was best.

Is Game of the Year coming out on PC?
Yes, we will be announcing more details soon

Will DLC included in the Game of the Year remain available individually online?
Yes

How do I get the Batman Year One download?
The Batman Year One download is only available to customers in Canada and North America

How much will the GOTY cost?
We have not announced this information yet, it will be down to individual retailers and their take on the RRP.

SarahMay
Sarah Wellock
European Community Manager
Rocksteady Studios (Community Manager)


http://community.batmanarkhamcity.co...517#post268517

[Llama_Shepherd]

There could be more DLC. Interesting. Very interesting.

[Havok83]

The GoTY is $50. Thats already been revealed via retailer preorder pages

Is that additional disc of content just the 360? I hope everything is on one disc for the PS3

[The Caped Knight]

Originally Posted by Llama_Shepherd

There could be more DLC. Interesting. Very interesting.

Well Conroy hinted at that in his interview that their would be more DLC stories.

[BrollySupersj]

Well it's nice to see she didn't blatantly confirm it's the last DLC. So there's some hope there. A game like this could easily have two or three more small story DLCs.

[Storm22]

I wonder will they have switch points for Robin, like they have for Catwoman.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Storm22

I wonder will they have switch points for Robin, like they have for Catwoman.

Im assuming you'll just switch based on the story.

[Jick09]

Originally Posted by BrollySupersj

Well it's nice to see she didn't blatantly confirm it's the last DLC. So there's some hope there. A game like this could easily have two or three more small story DLCs.

I don't think it will have more story DLC's. The description for Harley's Revenge says that it'll be the final challenge and that we'll close AC forever.

If there are more DLC's, it must be challenge maps.

[MrWayne]

How come nobody ever asks "When will we get BB & TDK movie skins"???

[BrollySupersj]

Originally Posted by Jick09

I don't think it will have more story DLC's. The description for Harley's Revenge says that it'll be the final challenge and that we'll close AC forever.

If there are more DLC's, it must be challenge maps.

Or more costumes.