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Old 02-10-2012, 01:12 PM   #126
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But notice at the end when Magneto sends the X-Members flying back when fighting Charles Mystique is the only one that doesnt fly back. This implies her jump-suit and the metal in them was morphed rather than a real one. So no, it didnt break the rules in XMFC.
I thought Magneto was using the magnetic field to send the X-members back. The magnetic field he created around him self to fly.

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Old 02-10-2012, 06:36 PM   #127
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Actually, its shown in FC at the end that she morphed the X-uniform over herself. Other times in the movie when she changed her clothes stayed the same unless naked. But notice at the end when Magneto sends the X-Members flying back when fighting Charles Mystique is the only one that doesnt fly back. This implies her jump-suit and the metal in them was morphed rather than a real one. So no, it didnt break the rules in XMFC.


Ok, but that is what I mean, that they may have played with the rules and had her morph over her uniform. I was thinking she was wearing a real X-uniform because Charles said it was a good idea as they were bullet-proof.

So, I dunno, maybe it could be that was just showing her actual uniform being revealed by the last morph being switched off?
Because why would she bother to morph a uniform? There was no real reason in the story for her to morph a uniform. But there was a real reason for her to wear one, for protection.
but, aye, I guess it could be just for the sake of her looking like one of the team, the writers made it that she morphed her uniform, even though it doesn't quite make sense.
and i always thought that Magneto chose not to throw her back, as he knew she would be joining his team.

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Old 02-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #128
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and i always thought that Magneto chose not to throw her back, as he knew she would be joining his team.
This. Magneto didn't throw her because he didn't want to.

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Old 02-13-2012, 12:29 AM   #129
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I think you could argue either way, its very possible she morphed her suit and also magneto developed a relationship with her, it might hav been both lol.

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Old 02-13-2012, 08:57 AM   #130
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I thought Magneto was using the magnetic field to send the X-members back. The magnetic field he created around him self to fly.
Yes he was, but Mystique didnt get thrown back because which implies she had no metal on her because her suit was morphed.

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This. Magneto didn't throw her because he didn't want to.
He was lashing out in anger for a few seconds, I doubt he had the concentration required to send only 3 of 4 people standing right next next to each other flying back.

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Old 02-13-2012, 09:42 AM   #131
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Aye, they play pretty fast and loose with the rules regarding her shapeshifting, at the end she was in her X-Men uniform, yet had her shape-shift over them, as if she wasn't wearing any.
I always thought they had RRS's character walk around in the nude, because she'd have to take her clothes off every time she shape-shifted, and, like Magneto said, if she has to shape shift all the time, to wear clothes even, then half her concentration is gone.
Maybe BS had that rule, but they disregarded it in XMFC.
key word there is you always "thought"
it was never a set rule in the original movies that she couldn't morph over cloth, people just assumed that because she always walk around naked, but as XMFC explains it, she walks around naked as a matter of pride not becuase it limits her powers (though, I am sure it does take a certain level of concentration to morph cloth on) Magnetos point more about her holding her human forum morph that takes alot more concentration

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Wouldn't she get cold, being naked all the time?

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Old 02-22-2012, 04:57 PM   #133
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Considering Vaughn and Bryan Singer brought In First Class Moira Mactaggert who doesn't match Moira of Last Stand and brought In Emma Frost which
Isn't Emma that was SIlverfox's sister In Wolverine do you feel they may want to Include charaters from The Last Stand or Wolverine like

The Angel(although If Angel Salvadore returns that may be unlikely)
Boliver Trask(although If you want them to consider Last Stand cannon you
can say Secretary Trask wasn't Boliver Trask)
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:08 PM   #134
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No. They are ignoring X3 and Wolverine Origins.

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No. They are ignoring X3 and Wolverine Origins.
They kept a little bit of continuity from X3

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No, they didn't.

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I have always felt First Class should be viewed as prequel to X-Men and X2 with a few liberties being taken.Which Is exactly how Bryan Singer described First Class.

I was curious If others thought characters used In Last Stand or Wolverine might be brought In to first Class sequel.We have X-Men like Gambit,and Angel and villians like Boliver Trask and Blob that can be brought In Ignoring their Last Stand or Wolverine appearances.This has already been done In First Class with Emma Frost and Moira Mactaggert.

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They can introduce a character like Bolivar Trask with ease. Characters like The Blob and Gambit, on the other hand, may be more difficult to introduce without confusing people. Though, I'm not sure I want to see any of those characters in a First Class sequel.

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No, they didn't.
Yes they did. Which is why they decided to make Beast young.

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That's not why they decided to make Beast young.

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That's not why they decided to make Beast young.
Yes it is. They took advantage of the fact that he was in X3 (around the same age as Mystique) and decided to put a younger version of him in the prequel. If they completly ignored X3 they probably would have put Angel in it.

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They put Beast in the movie because he benefited the story of the movie, not because he was older in X3. It's the same as Moira. They put her in the movie despite her role in X3 because she furthered the movie's story, not because she was in X3.

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I'm trying to say they did maintain some sort of continuity and only contradicted elements only for the benefit of the story. They didn't pretend X3 Beast never happened.

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They didn't pretend his role didn't exist specifically because they're ignoring the entirety of X3.

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They didn't pretend his role didn't exist specifically because they're ignoring the entirety of X3.
Until one of the producers confirms it, I'm inclined to disagree.

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Old 02-22-2012, 10:43 PM   #146
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They pretty much have.

BTW, none of the producers said they used Beast in First Class because of X3, so not sure why you're fine with believing that.

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Old 02-23-2012, 10:29 AM   #147
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^I think Beasts story in FC was sort of in line with what he was going through in X3 regarding the cure, etc. I personally would like to forget X3 ever existed but for people who liked it they can still imagine TLS as part of the continuity but with liberties taken.

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Old 02-23-2012, 01:03 PM   #148
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I HATED X3, but First Class did perfectly set up Beast's arc for wanting the cure in X3.

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Old 02-23-2012, 09:23 PM   #149
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He's had that arc in the comics long before X3, so sorry but no.

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At this point I see First Class as a full reboot.

Only keeping certain chosen elements form X1 and 2 is pretty lame and makes their continuity even more ****ed up then it was. Plus it will ruin any chances for original team members later. The only reason it was mentioned X3 and XMOW arent part of it is to make the fans happy and they shot themselves in the foot from ****ing up characters they wanted to reuse. No general audience or even most fans cant make sense of it. Its either a part of all the X films or none. I think they made First class with the intentions of being both a reboot and a prequel depending on its success, but now since it was a success they can say reboot. Connecting it to other X films is pointless at this point imo. When FC2 is released there will be even more things separating the films continuity to the X trilogy. Everyone can have their opinion, Its impossible to figure out in the end. Reboot with throw backs to the original makes the most sense to me.

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