Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2

Thread Manager · 02-23-2012, 10:47 AM

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Thread Manager · 02-23-2012, 10:47 AM

This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

Thebumwhowalks · 02-23-2012, 10:47 AM

Aye, I always thought the finale should have had a longer run time than a regular episode, I'd have to go back and watch it to think of things I'd want expanded upon, but I have thought that before too. Shows usually do that, Oz, The Sopranos, the Seinfeld finale was a two-parter...

Young Superman · 02-23-2012, 11:00 AM

2 and 3 are my favorite seasons of Buffy.

Scourge2099 · 02-23-2012, 12:23 PM

Season 3 is the best. Mayor Wilkins had the best lines , like this one :"Now, Faith, I don't find that sort of thing amusing. I'm a family man. Now, let's kill your little friend. Don't worry, I wouldn't ask you to do it. Not this early in the relationship. Besides, I think a vampire attack would look less suspicious, anyway. In the meantime, let's look at the rest of the apartment, huh? If I'm not mistaken, some lucky girl has herself a PlayStation"

TheCorpulent1 · 02-23-2012, 04:45 PM

Yeah, the mayor was great. You could tell Whedon had fun with that villain.

hopefuldreamer · 02-23-2012, 05:10 PM

The Mayor is my favourite villain of the Buffyverse.

There's just something uber creepy about that 'polite exterior'

Havok83 · 02-23-2012, 05:43 PM

I still think Glorificus was the best big bad

I loved how someone that looked like Buffy was the big evil villian which was so different from past seasons which had these older evil maless or flat out monstrous. Glory was so regular from the way she looked to the way she talked, but she was stronger, more powerful and a real threat to Buffy. Plus she was fun and had amazing lines and a great sense of humor. She rocked

Sawyer · 02-23-2012, 05:46 PM

In hindsight, I wish The Master had gotten more of a chance to shine.

O'Haire · 02-23-2012, 05:56 PM

Agree. Could of gotten a lot more out of him. Shame the first season was only 12 episodes.

Marvolo · 02-23-2012, 07:09 PM

I just read that in season 8 (the comics) Angel is possessed and murders Giles. Wish I hadn't read that now.

TheCorpulent1 · 02-23-2012, 07:16 PM

Yeah. It was about as stupid as it sounds, too. But it's given us Angel's latest attempt at redemption in the Angel & Faith series, which is great.

Marvolo · 02-23-2012, 07:32 PM

And now Doyle! Damnit! That was unexpected mid way through the first season.

TheCorpulent1 · 02-23-2012, 07:45 PM

Yep. Great moment, though. He went out like a boss.

Sawyer · 02-23-2012, 07:51 PM

For some reason, I've always really liked the design of Doyle's demon half. It's just a green face with thorns coming out of it, but it looks awesome to me.

TheCorpulent1 · 02-23-2012, 07:52 PM

I always wondered why he didn't just demon out and headbutt people whenever he got into fights.

Marvolo · 02-23-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Yep. Great moment, though. He went out like a boss.

Yeah he totally did!

flickchick85 · 02-23-2012, 09:47 PM

Doyle's death didn't really get to me when I first watched it, but it's waaaay sadder to me now knowing that Glenn Quinn is dead in real life.

The Question · 02-23-2012, 10:16 PM

I really didn't like the episode where Doyle died. The Scourge didn't make any sense to me.

AxlsAppetite · 02-23-2012, 10:20 PM

What's not to get? They were purebred demons that wanted to kill all the other ones that weren't pure.

Marvolo · 02-24-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Question

I really didn't like the episode where Doyle died. The Scourge didn't make any sense to me.

Adding to what Axls said, the Scourge were the Nazi's of the demon world. Look at their uniforms, and the vehicles and motorcycles they use. The way they want to cleanse the earth of inferior races, and half-breeds leaving only the pure demons. It was pretty straightforward what they were about.

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Originally Posted by flickchick85

Doyle's death didn't really get to me when I first watched it, but it's waaaay sadder to me now knowing that Glenn Quinn is dead in real life.

I never would have thought of him as the heroine type. It really is sad.

TheCorpulent1 · 02-24-2012, 01:58 AM

Well, supposedly Doyle was killed off because behind the scenes, Quinn was partying too hard and drawing Boreanaz into that world. So they killed off the character and fired the actor.

At least, that's the story I've heard. Not sure how reliable it is.

ironmaidenrules · 02-24-2012, 04:32 AM

I heard that he was hired knowing how long his character would last. Remember,joss always wanted to do something like this. Besides, from a story standpoint you need a Death to get things moving. Wasn't going to be Angel or Cordy. And since Angel wasn't Torchwood the main characters didn't die in like every episode (hyperbole)

hopefuldreamer · 02-24-2012, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Question

I really didn't like the episode where Doyle died. The Scourge didn't make any sense to me.

The storyline in itself sort of made sense... What didn't make any sense whatsoever is how Doyle shutting down that weapon and sacrificing himself actually stopped them...

Why on earth did we never hear about them again?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvolo

I just read that in season 8 (the comics) Angel is possessed and murders Giles. Wish I hadn't read that now.

Yeah, that's incredibly stupid... I might have to never read the comics...

Havok83 · 02-24-2012, 05:28 AM

all this talk is making me want to rewatch the entire series. I have the boxset but the furthest I went before I got busy was season 3. I will have to plan to get through it all from the beginning sometime in the future

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Thebumwhowalks Banned User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,377	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire Aye, I always thought the finale should have had a longer run time than a regular episode, I'd have to go back and watch it to think of things I'd want expanded upon, but I have thought that before too. Shows usually do that, Oz, The Sopranos, the Seinfeld finale was a two-parter...

02-23-2012, 11:00 AM	#4
Young Superman The Last Son of Krypton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,890	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 2 and 3 are my favorite seasons of Buffy. __________________ "What if a child dreamed of becoming something other than what society had intended?...What if a child aspired to something greater?..."

02-23-2012, 12:23 PM	#5
Scourge2099 Nihilistic Zombie Ninja Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,646	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Season 3 is the best. Mayor Wilkins had the best lines , like this one :"Now, Faith, I don't find that sort of thing amusing. I'm a family man. Now, let's kill your little friend. Don't worry, I wouldn't ask you to do it. Not this early in the relationship. Besides, I think a vampire attack would look less suspicious, anyway. In the meantime, let's look at the rest of the apartment, huh? If I'm not mistaken, some lucky girl has herself a PlayStation" __________________ I have died and been born again. There is nothing I fear. One day I will kill a god.

02-23-2012, 04:45 PM	#6
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,732	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Yeah, the mayor was great. You could tell Whedon had fun with that villain. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

02-23-2012, 05:10 PM	#7
hopefuldreamer I will find him! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: South West, UK Posts: 9,671	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 The Mayor is my favourite villain of the Buffyverse. There's just something uber creepy about that 'polite exterior' __________________ 'I heard a child say that he wanted to be in The Elite when he grows up because it would be fun to kill bad guys. Fun to kill... People have to know that there is another way' - Superman, Superman vs The Elite 'Somewhere in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down.' - Grant Morrison

02-23-2012, 05:43 PM	#8
Havok83 Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 29,941	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 I still think Glorificus was the best big bad I loved how someone that looked like Buffy was the big evil villian which was so different from past seasons which had these older evil maless or flat out monstrous. Glory was so regular from the way she looked to the way she talked, but she was stronger, more powerful and a real threat to Buffy. Plus she was fun and had amazing lines and a great sense of humor. She rocked

02-23-2012, 05:46 PM	#9
Sawyer The God of Tits and Wine Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: King's Landing Posts: 49,085	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 In hindsight, I wish The Master had gotten more of a chance to shine. __________________ I Have No Doubt The Revenge You Want Will Be Yours In Time If You Have The Stomach For It...

02-23-2012, 05:56 PM	#10
O'Haire Awesome Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada. Posts: 2,317	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Agree. Could of gotten a lot more out of him. Shame the first season was only 12 episodes. __________________ http://dmthompson.deviantart.com/ Last edited by O'Haire; 02-23-2012 at 05:59 PM.

02-23-2012, 07:09 PM	#11
Marvolo Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,657	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 I just read that in season 8 (the comics) Angel is possessed and murders Giles. Wish I hadn't read that now. Last edited by Marvolo; 02-23-2012 at 07:13 PM.

02-23-2012, 07:16 PM	#12
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,732	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Yeah. It was about as stupid as it sounds, too. But it's given us Angel's latest attempt at redemption in the Angel & Faith series, which is great. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

02-23-2012, 07:32 PM	#13
Marvolo Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,657	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 And now Doyle! Damnit! That was unexpected mid way through the first season.

02-23-2012, 07:45 PM	#14
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,732	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Yep. Great moment, though. He went out like a boss. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

02-23-2012, 07:51 PM	#15
Sawyer The God of Tits and Wine Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: King's Landing Posts: 49,085	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 For some reason, I've always really liked the design of Doyle's demon half. It's just a green face with thorns coming out of it, but it looks awesome to me. __________________ I Have No Doubt The Revenge You Want Will Be Yours In Time If You Have The Stomach For It...

02-23-2012, 07:52 PM	#16
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,732	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 I always wondered why he didn't just demon out and headbutt people whenever he got into fights. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

02-23-2012, 09:47 PM	#18
flickchick85 Loose Seal Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 9,347	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Doyle's death didn't really get to me when I first watched it, but it's waaaay sadder to me now knowing that Glenn Quinn is dead in real life. __________________ VERONICA MARS LIVES. VIDEO-CLick to Watch!: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...-movie-project

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The Question Objectivism doesn't work. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hub City Posts: 36,130	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 I really didn't like the episode where Doyle died. The Scourge didn't make any sense to me. __________________ VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

02-23-2012, 10:20 PM	#20
AxlsAppetite Master Assassin Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,627	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 What's not to get? They were purebred demons that wanted to kill all the other ones that weren't pure. __________________

02-24-2012, 01:58 AM	#22
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,732	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 Well, supposedly Doyle was killed off because behind the scenes, Quinn was partying too hard and drawing Boreanaz into that world. So they killed off the character and fired the actor. At least, that's the story I've heard. Not sure how reliable it is. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

02-24-2012, 04:32 AM	#23
ironmaidenrules Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Get a real boyfriend ya pervs! Posts: 2,465	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 I heard that he was hired knowing how long his character would last. Remember,joss always wanted to do something like this. Besides, from a story standpoint you need a Death to get things moving. Wasn't going to be Angel or Cordy. And since Angel wasn't Torchwood the main characters didn't die in like every episode (hyperbole)

02-24-2012, 05:28 AM	#25
Havok83 Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 29,941	Re: Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 2 all this talk is making me want to rewatch the entire series. I have the boxset but the furthest I went before I got busy was season 3. I will have to plan to get through it all from the beginning sometime in the future

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