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Old 01-20-2013, 09:46 AM   #1
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SPOILERS AHEAD. I was watching certain movie the other day in which the mentor of the main character died near the end of the film allowing the main character to take center stage. And I started to think about movies in which the mentor doesn't die and I couldn't come up with a single movie. Of course the mentor can't be the main character because then the rookie is the one that dies. So help me out here guys.

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:51 AM   #2
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Though in the overall story all the mentors die, Yoda doesn't die in Empire Strikes Back, Luke just doesn't heed his advice and leaves.

Mr. Miyagi doesn't die the Karate kid.

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:56 AM   #3
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Master Splinter lives in all of the TMNT movies!

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Rufus (Bill & Ted) and 'Fast' Eddie Felson (Color of Money) come to mind outside of those previously mentioned.

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Rufus (Bill & Ted) and 'Fast' Eddie Felson (Color of Money) come to mind outside of those previously mentioned.
Was just about to post that!

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Morpheus doesn't die in the Matrix movies (though ironically, the one he mentors does)

Gandalf doesn't really die in Lord of the Rings.

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Morpheus doesn't die in the Matrix movies (though ironically, the one he mentors does)
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lol what a crappy mentor :P this is a much more interesting thing - what more mentors have failed in their mentorship except for morpheus?

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:03 PM   #9
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I don't really care about the Matrix sequels, have only seen them once, but I don't think Morpheus has failed as a mentor. Neo sacrificed himself to save the world.

--- I wouldn't really call him a mentor, but Morgan Freeman's character in Se7en kind of takes Brad Pitt's under his wing (they're partners, but Freeman's character tries to put some wisdom into Pitt's hot headed character), and couldn't nothing in the end.

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lol what a crappy mentor :P this is a much more interesting thing - what more mentors have failed in their mentorship except for morpheus?
You could make the case that Obi-Wan failed as a mentor to Anakin.

In a lot of movies, the mentor does have an old apprentice that failed him, and sets out to make things right with a new one, like Obi-Wan training Luke.

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Mickey didn't die until Rocky III.

Richard Crenna in the Rambo movies.

Do Alfred and Lucius Fox count as mentors?

Dumbledore didn't die untill movie #6.


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Old 01-20-2013, 03:50 PM   #12
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Don't know if I can come up with any new examples, as every movie I was going to mention has already been listed above. So I'll compile them into a list here.

Willow - Finn Razel (and to a lesser extent, the old wizard in the Nelwyn village)

The Karate Kid - Mr Miyagi

The Matrix - Morpheos

The X Men - Professor Xavior (he does die in X3, but transfers his mind into another body. Besides, that movie is so terrible I prefer to ignore its entire existance)

Rocky & Rocky II - Mickey

Rocky III, IV, V, & VI - Tony (Apollo Creed's trainer, manager, & mentor)

Rocky V - Rocky himself

Star Wars Edisode III - Yoda & Obi Wan

Star Wars Episode V - Yoda

The Magnificent Seven - Yul Brenner's character (I forgot his name)

The Mystery Men - The Pheonix

Harry Potter 1 through 5 - Dumbledore

The Lord Of The Rings - Gandalf (well, he died but then came back so . . .)

The Three Musketeers - Athos, Porthos, and Aramus (they mentored the young Dartaneon)

Cruel Intentions - Catherine (she wasn't a very good mentor to Cecile, but she lives)

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Master Splinter

Red Sonja - Sonja mentors the bratty Prince Tarn

The Beastmaster - Seth mentored Prince Tal

Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins - Chun

The Adventures Of Ford Fairlane Rock & Roll Detective - Ford (he kinda mentors the kid who hired him to find his dad)

Boogey Nights - Burt Reynolds is kind of like a mentor to Mark Wahlberg


That's all I can think of right now. In a way you can scratch Obi Wan and Yoda off the list entirely. They may have died, but their spirits come back to continue mentoring Luke from beyond the grave. So does that even really count as being dead? Well, to paraphrase Obi Wan in Jedi, it all depends on your point of view.


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Sam Jackson in unbreakable

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In a way you could count Professor X to Magneto in First Class.

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Old 01-20-2013, 04:23 PM   #15
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Michael Caine in every Christopher Nolan film.

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The movie Sidekicks with Mako, Jonathan Brandis & Chuck Norris.

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Ogami, mentor to his son Daigoro in the great series of "Baby Cart" Films, doesn't die.

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Henry to Alec in The Black Stallion and Raj to Alec in The Black Stallion Returns.

Cher to Tai in Clueless.

Sarah Connor to John Connor in Terminator 2.

K to J in all Men in Black flicks.

Haymitch and Cinna to Katniss and Peeta in The Hunger Games.

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The Wizard in Conan the Barbarian.

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did whistler die in the blade movies?i dont remember

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did whistler die in the blade movies?i dont remember
In the second one I think Whistler died/became a vampire.

No mention of Henry Jones Sr. in Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade?

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Baloo in "The Jungle Book."

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The Wizard in Conan the Barbarian.
He's really more of a sidekick than a mentor, imo.

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Sarah Connor to John Connor in Terminator 2.
John Connor could also be a mentor to the T800.

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Ogami, mentor to his son Daigoro in the great series of "Baby Cart" Films, doesn't die.
As Itto Ogami is the primary character of the series, I'm not sure he fits into the "mentor" role. Granted, he does mentor his son. However if he were to die the series would end as Itto Daigoro is far too young to continue on on his own. Now if he were an adolescent, that would be different.

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