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Old 02-27-2012, 02:08 PM   #26
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DDL is a lock to get a nom even if Lincoln isn't the hot shizz. DDL is one of the best actors ever, this is not another Leo situation because Leo isn't even in the same league as DDL and all the fanboy love in the world doesn't change that fact.

DDL+playing historical figure = instant Oscar nomination.

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Seann William Scott for Goon


Hey, it's the only 2012 movie I've seen so far. Gotta start somewhere, right?

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Old 02-27-2012, 02:17 PM   #28
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but its not just DDL giving a performance. we all know that the director and editor and composer need to show the actor in the best light. and Spielberg is one of the best. he will use everytrick that he knows to make DDL's performance even bigger.

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Old 02-27-2012, 02:22 PM   #29
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^Eh, I'm not a Spielberg fan.

Hell, Private Ryan was so boring and pointless to me that I stopped the film a half hour in and have never revisited it.

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I forgot another movie that has potential - "On The Road".

That makes it 3 Oscar baity movies for Amy Adams this year. Time for 4th Oscar nod?

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^Eh, I'm not a Spielberg fan.

Hell, Private Ryan was so boring and pointless to me that I stopped the film a half hour in and have never revisited it.
What do you mean pointless? It's pointless telling a story set in WWII? Well then, if a film like Saving Private Ryan is pointless then all films are pointless.

So you don't like Jaws, the Indiana Jones movies, ET, Close Encounters, Hook, Schindler's List, Minority Report, Munich?

WTF?

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What do you mean pointless? It's pointless telling a story set in WWII? Well then, if a film like Saving Private Ryan is pointless then all films are pointless.

So you don't like Jaws, the Indiana Jones movies, ET, Close Encounters, Hook, Schindler's List, Minority Report, Munich?

WTF?
I want to be on your side there, but do not include "Hook" on that list.

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Old 02-27-2012, 03:01 PM   #33
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What do you mean pointless? It's pointless telling a story set in WWII? Well then, if a film like Saving Private Ryan is pointless then all films are pointless.

So you don't like Jaws, the Indiana Jones movies, ET, Close Encounters, Hook, Schindler's List, Minority Report, Munich?

WTF?
Does it offend you that I didn't like Ryan?

Jaws was okay, I like the Indiana Jones movies very much, ET was okay but it's fluff and not particularly my kind of fluff, Close Encounters was boring, I have some strange affection for Hook and I mostly liked Minority Report but it wasn't a great film and the ending was terrible and I haven't watched List or Munich.

I don't hate Speilberg and have respect for him but he mostly isn't my kind of director.

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DDL is a lock to get a nom even if Lincoln isn't the hot shizz. DDL is one of the best actors ever, this is not another Leo situation because Leo isn't even in the same league as DDL and all the fanboy love in the world doesn't change that fact.

DDL+playing historical figure = instant Oscar nomination.
What Leo situation are you referring to?

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This is the first page of the 84th Academy Award thread. Look at some of the front runners being called at this time last year:

Contagion, J. Edgar, The Beaver, and We Bought a Zoo are brought up for best picture. Some of the best acting stand outs were Ryan Gosling, Mel Gibson (Hollywood will never forgive him), Elizabeth Olsen and Kirsten Dunst.

Oh, and there is not one single mention of The Artist until page 8 (which wasn't reached until 6 months after the thread was started).

My point is, it is almost impossible to predict these at this point in the game. There are always a couple of small art house movies or under the radar foreign films that no one even hears about until November and always rake in a few awards. Plus you never know when a big Oscar bait movie will crash and bomb critically like J. Edgar or Incredibly Loud and Extremely Close.
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I want to be on your side there, but do not include "Hook" on that list.
Swap Hook and Minority Report for Jurassic Park, Empire Of The Sun and add Amistad.

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a serious Spielberg movie could turn in a crapfest? please
Remember when Spielberg did Amistad and everyone called it a big budget After School Special? Before its release, everyone thought it would be a classic like Schindler's List. Instead it got mixed-to-positive reviews and only got 4 technical nominations at the Oscars.

War Horse, another example, wasn't exactly beloved either. And if it wasn't for the expanded list, it wouldn't have gotten a Best Picture nod.

Spielberg is great and all, but he isn't as consistant as he used to be. Lincoln might turn out to be great, but it might also turn out less-than-stellar. These days, it's pointless to get excited for Spielberg movies so far in advance. It's best to take a wait-and-see approach.

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Would anyone like to see a Best American Film category?

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If Weinstein can hassle the Academy to get Tarantino a nod I'll be happy.

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Old 02-27-2012, 06:47 PM   #40
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Dont forget Silver Linings Playbook this is O Russell's 1st Film Since The Fighter

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Plus you never know when a big Oscar bait movie will crash and bomb critically like J. Edgar or Incredibly Loud and Extremely Close.
Noone would consider J. Edgar an Oscar Porn movie if they had known from the beginning if it was going to be a romance story, and i for one loved it for being one. Not to mention the way the story unfolded with it's non-linear story telling.

This movie got seriously undeserved hate simply because Eastwood chose to taggle the truth which was Edgar's homosexuality.

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Remember when Spielberg did Amistad and everyone called it a big budget After School Special? Before its release, everyone thought it would be a classic like Schindler's List. Instead it got mixed-to-positive reviews and only got 4 technical nominations at the Oscars.

War Horse, another example, wasn't exactly beloved either. And if it wasn't for the expanded list, it wouldn't have gotten a Best Picture nod.

Spielberg is great and all, but he isn't as consistant as he used to be. Lincoln might turn out to be great, but it might also turn out less-than-stellar. These days, it's pointless to get excited for Spielberg movies so far in advance. It's best to take a wait-and-see approach.
Yeah, War Horse is living proof that a Spielberg historical epic can be appropriately grand and get all the requisite noms, yet go home without a single win. Lincoln's got all the right ingredients, but that doesn't mean it'll be a tasty cake.

Also, I wouldn't be too quick to expect that The Hobbit will follow in LOTR's lofty footsteps. LOTR was a concept on a much, MUCH grander scale, a true epic of epics; while The Hobbit is a much smaller-scale, personal journey. I don't think it's going to rival LOTR's critical praise *or* box office.

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The Hobbit isn't that small scale, although I agree that just because LotR was nominated it doesn't mean that The Hobbit will be. If nothing else, there aren't the high stakes good vs. evil conflicts present, although everything I hear they're doing technically is going to advance the movie going experience.

I'd like to see Andy Serkis get a special Oscar one of these years. I don't know if next year is the right year, although I don't expect that Gollum's part in The Hobbit will demand a nomination, but that may be something the Academy can do that may attract younger viewers and be justifiable. Mocap is here to stay and nobody has done more in front of the camera with mocap to advance the art than Serkis.

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Noone would consider J. Edgar an Oscar Porn movie if they had known from the beginning if it was going to be a romance story, and i for one loved it for being one. Not to mention the way the story unfolded with it's non-linear story telling.

This movie got seriously undeserved hate simply because Eastwood chose to taggle the truth which was Edgar's homosexuality.
I think the exact opposite. I would have preferred for it to be kind of a love story but the movie got bogged down in just being a mostly regular old biopic with a horrible framing device of an old Hoover telling stories about how he became who he became.

Yes there was a slight twist in the end but it doesn't really help the film in my eyes. I wish Eastwood would have focused more on the love story but he didn't and thus the movie was way worst off because of it.

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"The Avengers" needs to get a best picture nomination.

Ok, seriously, never will that happen, but I sure think it could get some nods in categorys "Best Visual Effects" and "Best Sound Mixing".

Also "Prometheus" could surprise us all, don t you think? Sure, nothing for "Best Picture", but maybe "Best Directing" and "Best Visual Effects".

I really hope "Django Unchained" gets some high-class nominations, esspacially "Acting Oscars".

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Quite interesting. I did realize that the Best Original Score category could be damned amazing though, wow

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Would anyone like to see a Best American Film category?
Speaking of new categories, Press Play and Indiewire are arguing for the creation of a new Academy Awards category Outstanding Collaborative Performance.

They video a couple of video essays on Andy Serkis, ET, The Fly, and Yoda. (spoilers in videos, if haven't seen them by now)

Andy Serkis
http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay...ve-performance

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http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay...e-strikes-back



What do you guys think of creating a new category for Best Collaborative performance?

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I applied for a Cineplex loyalty program just yesterday, because it looks like I'll be watching a ton of movies over the next 12 months, everything from Avengers, 7 Psychopaths and TDKR to Gatsby, Anna Karenina and The Master. I can't wait for all the films of 2012-13 to roll out.

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Because I have too much time on my hands, I made my own Oscars, choosing only those who weren't nominated for Oscars for my shortlist:

http://johnleescomics.wordpress.com/...ernate-oscars/

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