The Wrestling Thread Invented Canada! - - - Part 48

[LuisTX85]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

It makes some sense, but....the fact that Rock is wrestling on Summerslam and WrestleMania 29 makes me think otherwise. I mean, if the Rock/Cena feud continues, it only makes sense for Rock to win one match and I can't see it happening in the last two matches.

Since when did it become a fact?,I thought it was only rumored that Rock MIGHT do a 3 match feud with Cena at WM/a ppv before Summerslam and last one at Summerslam!?

IF true then I'm guessing Rock wins at Mania But puts over Cena in the last two..Or Cena wins WM and Rock in the 2nd then Cena gain for the last one

[Anno_Domini]

It became apparent that Rock would be competing in a match in Summerslam of this year and in WrestleMania 29, but I'm not saying the "best of three" is still on the list, even though it was rumored a while back ago but also scrapped, so who knows, so I'm just guessing about Rock and Cena going at it for the other next two PPVs. And the way I can see it happening is Rock winning at his hometown, and putting Cena over in the next two. For WM 29, with Rock and Cena both having a win, I could see them even adding a stipulation just to end "all questions" on who's better and that is where Rock "officially" passes the torch to Cena even when Cena pretty much had the torch many years beforehand.

[AndrewGilkison]

I bet after RAW was over, Rock and Cena were probably laughing together over the work they put into that segment and how it was going to get everyone talking. I doubt this is a HBK/Bret Hart situation where they really do hate each other in real life as much as they do on TV (even though they're trying to create that kind of feel), and they probably planned and discussed everything they did in that segment, from Rock putting notes on his arm to Cena calling him out on that and everything else that happened. They are professionals and they know how to work us. They know exactly what they are doing.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Originally Posted by AndrewGilkison

I bet after RAW was over, Rock and Cena were probably laughing together over the work they put into that segment and how it was going to get everyone talking. I doubt this is a HBK/Bret Hart situation where they really do hate each other in real life as much as they do on TV (even though they're trying to create that kind of feel), and they probably planned and discussed everything they did in that segment, from Rock putting notes on his arm to Cena calling him out on that and everything else that happened. They are professionals and they know how to work us. They know exactly what they are doing.

No doubt. I woudn't be surprised if they were hanging out, getting ice-cream.

[Anno_Domini]

Oh, you know they would. I mean, Dwayne even mentioned John had his number and I'm sure they do and talk a lot when we don't hear it or see it on Twitter.

[Pink Ranger]

Originally Posted by Lunar_Wolf

No doubt. I woudn't be surprised if they were hanging out, getting ice-cream.

One milkshake, two straws.

[Project862006]

sharing a bowl of fruity pebbles and some kung pow chicken?

[E-Man]

Originally Posted by Project862006

cena has helped alot of guys

like that you dismissed punk and ryder when he helped them out but ok lol

but Eve Torres is now the most over she has ever been her entire career because of the cena angle

he put over miz cleanly at mania but miz sunk his own push by being the miz lol

How is Cena putting Eve over? Her heel turn is basically because they don't have the balls to turn him heel, or have him change character much so she's just something else to distract the audience to forget about that horrible feud with Kane.

Cena didn't start pushing Ryder until people were complaining about him never putting anyone over. His first tweet about him was in response to putting guys over, so it's not like he was being the locker room warrior that he claims he is.

With Punk it wasn't a Cena thing. Punk cut that awesome promo and that pushed him like crazy. Sure Cena lost to him, but that's not like Cena was pushing for Punk from the get go. With Miz he didn't even beat Cena clean because the Rock interfered in the match and cost him the win. Miz is a whole different story because he's been booked poorly.

I'm not saying that Cena is Hulk Hogan or Triple H were he buries guys, but he hasn't been putting guys over to talk about fighting for the locker room. Jericho puts guys over clean all the time. The Undertaker used to do the same thing. Cena doesn't seem like the type that actively keeps guys down, but he hasn't said a damn thing about his clean streak of blowing through guys and never selling anything. It's not like Vince wouldn't listen to him anyway. He's the top guy in the whole damn company, so he can't play the card of being there for the guys when he hasn't used his influence to get anyone over besides himself.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Originally Posted by Pink Ranger

One milkshake, two straws.

Originally Posted by Project862006

sharing a bowl of fruity pebbles and some kung pow chicken?

Running high-fives and all.

[Slushy]

Cena is going out of his way to be a douchebag in this feud so I hope The Rock kicks his ass at Wrestlemania.

As for the Wrestlemania 29, its predictable and such a waste. I'd rather see The Rock wrestle - you know somebody else on the roster.

[AntMan]

Bullcrap. Cena let Punk kickout of two AA's and breakout of the STF at MITB. Cena never kickedout of a GTS: he let Punk look strong when he easily could have buried Punk and killed his push.

[Lobo]

There was also talk of Cena helping Evan Bourne get a push but Bourne ruined that with his being Paul London 2.0 and enjoying fake weed too much

[Project862006]

^exactly he also pushed for daniel bryan

people just want to discredit cena

[The Sage]

Originally Posted by E-Man

How is Cena putting Eve over? Her heel turn is basically because they don't have the balls to turn him heel, or have him change character much so she's just something else to distract the audience to forget about that horrible feud with Kane.

Cena didn't start pushing Ryder until people were complaining about him never putting anyone over. His first tweet about him was in response to putting guys over, so it's not like he was being the locker room warrior that he claims he is.

With Punk it wasn't a Cena thing. Punk cut that awesome promo and that pushed him like crazy. Sure Cena lost to him, but that's not like Cena was pushing for Punk from the get go. With Miz he didn't even beat Cena clean because the Rock interfered in the match and cost him the win. Miz is a whole different story because he's been booked poorly.

I'm not saying that Cena is Hulk Hogan or Triple H were he buries guys, but he hasn't been putting guys over to talk about fighting for the locker room. Jericho puts guys over clean all the time. The Undertaker used to do the same thing. Cena doesn't seem like the type that actively keeps guys down, but he hasn't said a damn thing about his clean streak of blowing through guys and never selling anything. It's not like Vince wouldn't listen to him anyway. He's the top guy in the whole damn company, so he can't play the card of being there for the guys when he hasn't used his influence to get anyone over besides himself.

Cena could've easily killed Punk's push but he put him over. He did more for Punk's career than Orton, HHH, and Taker have done. On the mic and in the ring, he put Punk over as his equal. He did push for Evan Bourne to get attention, and was a supporter for Daniel Bryan.

I don't get how Cena's being a douchebag to the Rock. This is war of the words. If anything, Rock and Cena are being douchebags to each other. And personally I'm loving it. I like Cena when he's serious, and I like that he threw Rock off with his lines. Maybe that'll cause the Rock to get more serious in his promos instead of rambling off jokes and playing catchphrases with the crowd. At least I hope so.

And I'm sorry, but when did Undertaker put guys over clean? It's rarely been done, and in most case it's always been tainted in some way.

[Project862006]

it felt like 2 worlds colliding with rock/cena

rock king of kayfabe promos met cena who straight shooted on him with realism

[Hunter Rider]

Rock has called Cena everything under the sun, belittled him as a man, cost him the WWE title and attacked him at Survivor Series when Cena shook his hand......and yet Cena's the douchebag?

As for the notes it isn't a big deal, but Cena calling him on them and Rock getting flustered were clearly not just part of a work.

Originally Posted by The Sage

What do you mean?

Austin vs Rock was very haphazard and look at the heel turn, so awkward because Rock and Austin were kicking out of finishers at 1 and in truth JR sounds like he wasn't sure exactly what Vince was doing, heel turns are quick, not awkward and 5 minutes after Vince hands Austin the chair with JR still acting confused.

Plus Austin hurt Rock with the chair shots as he overdid it as their adrenaline was skyrocketing, apparently Rock had little feeling in one arm and both legs for about 20 minutes post-match..

Originally Posted by Colossal Spoons

Just caught RAW...

I'm pretty much over this Cena/Rock feud. A Cena heel turn after beating Rocky is about the only way to salvage this at this point. Every time the Rock built momentum in his promo last night, he lost me some juvenile Twitter insult.

Exactly how I felt.

[The Sage]

Originally Posted by Hunter Rider

Austin vs Rock was very haphazard and look at the heel turn, so awkward because Rock and Austin were kicking out of finishers at 1 and in truth JR sounds like he wasn't sure exactly what Vince was doing, heel turns are quick, not awkward and 5 minutes after Vince hands Austin the chair with JR still acting confused.

Plus Austin hurt Rock with the chair shots as he overdid it as their adrenaline was skyrocketing, apparently Rock had little feeling in one arm and both legs for about 20 minutes post-match..

It's interesting you say that because I liked JR's commentary during the match and thought it added to what was going on. I didn't sense JR's uncertainty.

I didn't know about the strong chairshots. That's rough. I hope it doesn't get like that with Rock/Cena.

[AntMan]

RAW did a 3.1. The 1/30/12 show with Punk vs Bryan, Cena/Kane/Ryder/Eve, and Undertaker's return drew a 3.5. I was expecting a bigger rating for last night.

[Project862006]

sure miz will get blamed for rocks raw return lol

[Dr. Evil]

I haven't been excited for the Rock's return in a while now. Also, he's only made one really good movie in the last year (Fast Five, which I thought was a fun thrill ride. I enjoyed his fight scene with Vin Diesel, wasn't disappointed by it). Too bad his last movie sucked.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Project862006

sure miz will get blamed for rocks raw return lol

You know, you thought I was a Rock fanboy, but you really sound like a Cena fanboy.

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil

I haven't been excited for the Rock's return in a while now. Also, he's only made one really good movie in the last year (Fast Five, which I thought was a fun thrill ride. I enjoyed his fight scene with Vin Diesel, wasn't disappointed by it). Too bad his last movie sucked.

What other film? Only Fast Five came out in 2011.

If you're talking about 2010, well I myself enjoyed Faster and The Other Guys, albeit even if he wasn't one of the main characters in TOG.

[Project862006]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

You know, you thought I was a Rock fanboy, but you really sound like a Cena fanboy.



What other film? Only Fast Five came out in 2011.

If you're talking about 2010, well I myself enjoyed Faster and The Other Guys, albeit even if he wasn't one of the main characters in TOG.

it is obvious you did'nt read my post at all buddy

i said not you when i made my post i was referring to other posters who are rock fanatics on other boards i go on

not saying you are but tons of rock fanboys on others sites get mad about the cena promo and quite butthurt lol

[Dr. Evil]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

You know, you thought I was a Rock fanboy, but you really sound like a Cena fanboy.



What other film? Only Fast Five came out in 2011.

If you're talking about 2010, well I myself enjoyed Faster and The Other Guys, albeit even if he wasn't one of the main characters in TOG.

He's in the movie "Journey 2" which bombed domestically but has done extremely well overseas.

2012 is fairly new so I count the early part of this year as "within the last year."

[Dr. Evil]

I did not watch Raw last night, so did they acknowledge Chael Sonnen in attendance?

[Dr. Evil]

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Sheamus came out first cut a promo said Daniel Bryan was a changed man. He said he's now conceded just like Sheamus was when he won his first title two years ago. Vickie Guerrero and Dolph Ziggler came out and interrupted them. Dolph cut a promo saying he should've been in the main event at WrestleMania. Teddy Long came out to interrupt and booked Dolph vs. Sheamus as the first match.

1. Sheamus defeated Dolph Ziggler. Swagger came out to distract Sheamus. Ziggler and hit the Zig Zag, but Shemaus kicked out and then finished off Dolph for the win.

Big Show vs. Mark Henry was advertised for later in the show.

2. Santino Marella defeated Heath Slater. Slater went for a move off the top rope. Santino knocked him off and as Slater was still sitting on the top rope, he hit him with The Cobra.

3. Eve defeated Natalya.

Cody Rhodes came out and then so did Big Show. Cody started up in the crowd and Big Show said he was going to come after him. Teddy Long came out and booked Show vs. Rhodes in a title match at WrestleMania. Then Long introduced Mark Henry, who came out for his match with Big Show.

4. Big Show defeated Mark Henry. Henry dominated most of the match. He missed hitting Show with the steel ring steps. Show kicked out of the World's Strongest Slam, then Show hit the WMD for the win.

They had a Johnny Ace and Teddy Long segment in the back. David Otunga said they wouldn't seek criminal charges for Teddy striking Ace on Raw, but they might take civil action. Long booked Otunga vs. Big Show for Raw. Next up is Drew Mcintyre vs Justin Gabriel. Long said that McIntyre is fired if he loses.

5. Justin Gabriel defeated Drew McIntyre. Teddy Long appeared on the big screen and fired McIntyre, who sold it by crying in the ring before he left.

6. Daniel Bryan fought Randy Orton to an apparent no-contest. Good back and forth. Orton was about to hit his DDT when Kane's pyro hit and he came out. Kane and Orton brawled outside for a while and it was back and forth. They both got in the ring and Kane got control and chokeslammed Orton and stood over him. Then he asked for a mic. He stood over Orton, who was out, and said, "Welcome back." Kane dropped the mic and left.