State your unpopular film related opinion - Part 8

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

That's what excites me. Not that it's too dark, but more dramatic. The flaws with Raimi's films was they were too much of a love letter to the Lee/Ditko era. The action was amazing but the character moments felt like they had 60's era sensibilites.

I know many disagree though which is fair enough.

[Majik1387]

Battleship is not as bad as everyone thinks it is.

[DyeLorean]

Originally Posted by SoNicRaDiATioN

The action was amazing but the character moments felt like they had 60's era sensibilites.

That's debatable. The only true action sequence making good and full use of Spidey's abilites was the train scene in #2.

Unmasked Spidey in #3 was good too, but the rest was just very repetitive, specially the final battle in #3. Too much swinging, not enough wall-crawling.

Maybe is because I was extremely disappointed with #3. But that's not an unpopular opinion anyway. Chubby emo Maguire crying just wasn't for me.

[jaymes_e06]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Battleship is not as bad as everyone thinks it is.

From the scene I saw in that movie Rihanna's acting wasn't that horrible either.

[Majik1387]

It's the writing, because as much as I like Kitsch, he's not so great either with the material given.

[jaymes_e06]

Yeah he's rather a meh(th) addict...

[Majik1387]

Huh?

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Originally Posted by DyeLorean

That's debatable. The only true action sequence making good and full use of Spidey's abilites was the train scene in #2..

EPIC Still tops in my book. The first had memorable action because it's the first time we saw the character on screen.

Originally Posted by DyeLorean

Unmasked Spidey in #3 was good too, but the rest was just very repetitive, specially the final battle in #3. Too much swinging, not enough wall-crawling.

Maybe is because I was extremely disappointed with #3. But that's not an unpopular opinion anyway. Chubby emo Maguire crying just wasn't for me

I honestly have a hard time even discussing #3. That may sound silly, but that was like a sucker punch to the gut. What a letdown by Raimi and co. Onward and upward.

[DyeLorean]

Originally Posted by SoNicRaDiATioN

I honestly have a hard time even discussing #3. That may sound silly, but that was like a sucker punch to the gut. What a letdown by Raimi and co. Onward and upward.

Ugh. Tell me about it. I had a giant poster of Spider-Man in my wall, from the floor to the ceiling. After the movie I took it down. That's how angry I was LOL

[Majik1387]

Originally Posted by DyeLorean

That's debatable. The only true action sequence making good and full use of Spidey's abilites was the train scene in #2.

I still find that scene boring, too staged, and extremely overrated.

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Originally Posted by DyeLorean

Ugh. Tell me about it. I had a giant poster of Spider-Man in my wall, from the floor to the ceiling. After the movie I took it down. That's how angry I was LOL

I was literally cursing at the screen as Tobey was dancing on the tables like Gene Kelly. A father of a young kid even took it up with me in the parking lot afterwards lol.

[jaymes_e06]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Huh?

I mean he's just meh usually, addicted to being meh...

I comunicate in overtly punny quips that are hard to decipher sometimes suri.

[The Morningstar]

The Spidey vs Ock fight is well done. But i can't get over the fact that this normal human being is trading punches with a guy who has the proportionate strength of a spider. He should be knocked out cold from a jab off of Spidey. Also notice the scene at the bank robbery where Spidey throws him against a car with the force to crush it. Too much plot induced stupidity.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I think the fight that happens after the bank robbery attempt was cool. Granted, the only version I've seen of it in years is the 2.1 on FX yesterday.

[Wesley Dodds]

I don't think a DC hero has ever been completely successfully ported to the screen.

I'm starting to think there's just something about that universe that can't really be put across in live action...

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Sloth7d

The Avengers was fun but it wasn't all that; not the best comic book movie, not even the best super hero movie. Based on all the reviews I'm seeing and fan hype, I'm pretty sure this is unpopular. I just don't get the hype; it really IS just another action/comedy movie. Which isn't bad, but unless a movie has something in it's story that just connects with me, I can't rave about it. The Avengers had good action, and we love the characters, but it was a very basic story at the end of the day.

Same here.

It's mostly fan-gasm and of course most people love tons of effects and humour together. The movie is like those things Adam Richman eats where you say 'it's okay but you don't need 7 pounds of fries with that.'

Anyways, it was way better than a Michael Bay movie where the characters are mostly unbearable. At least Avengers had good acting.

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Battleship is not as bad as everyone thinks it is.

It's probably ten times worse.

[Majik1387]

Nah, I'll say people will think it's ten times worse than it actually is, which is bad, but not 10 times worse.

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

I don't think a DC hero has ever been completely successfully ported to the screen.

I'm starting to think there's just something about that universe that can't really be put across in live action...

No, it's just that nobody has done it quite right and the fans are not as accepting as Marvel's fans. I seriously don't think there is a Marvel fanbase as hostile as the Batman fanbase. Superman has probably been the best due to Reeves, and Keaton was a great Batman, and various actors from Nolan's have been the best of their characters so far, like Oldman's Gordon and Eckhart's Dent, but I still think it could be better.

[The Morningstar]

I dunno, I think Captain America was done perfectly. I find the live action version a bit more bearable than the comic version actually. The comic version can be a bit too corny and mary sue-ish. The film version seems a bit more human.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by Sloth7d

The Avengers was fun but it wasn't all that; not the best comic book movie, not even the best super hero movie. Based on all the reviews I'm seeing and fan hype, I'm pretty sure this is unpopular. I just don't get the hype; it really IS just another action/comedy movie. Which isn't bad, but unless a movie has something in it's story that just connects with me, I can't rave about it. The Avengers had good action, and we love the characters, but it was a very basic story at the end of the day.

And that's not always a bad thing. Simple shouldn't mean bad when the point of this movie is just be a fun superhero invasion movie. The movie had great action, great characters, and (to me) a good story, why does the story need to be complex.

And is it that you don't get the hype, or you don't like the hype? Because its hard not to get why this movie is hyped up.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Avengers did have layers. There is a difference between plot and story. The plot is simple, like all these films. Bad guy wants to win, good guys have to stop him.

But the story? The story is where the depth is. The depth comes from the characters. How these individuals work through their own problems and become a team. The characterisation was just really good. So many things that can be missed on the first watch, but picked up on in repeat viewings. You know Stark's roll call to Loki? Did you notice he didn't mention himself? That's because Stark has now realised it isn't all about him. He isn't THE man. The film was full of little moments like that.

Also, there is compelling things in the story. Loki's rant in Germany for example. Do humans really want freedom? Or would we prefer the comfort of being ruled? What is easier? Being a shepard, or a sheep?

Would the world be more peaceful if it was united under a single banner, a single ruler?

The Tesseract wasn't just a plot device, it was a metaphor. What would happen if say, we discovered some new fossil fuel on Mars that was practically unlimited? Would it be used for the benefit of mankind? As a warm light for us to bask in? Or would the "powers that be" use it for more nefarious means? Like what SHIELD did?

See the idea that Avengers is just a mindless action movie, albeit well written, is a fallacy. There is layers there. It's just that they are not bashed around our heads (like some other cbm franchise wink wink) and all the other stuff is obviously more entertaining. All that stuff i just mentioned is certainly intended by Whedon's script. But, who really gives a **** about global energy crisis metaphors when Thor and Hulk are duking it out? When Captain America is issuing orders to his fellow Avengers? Just bask in the ****ing glory that this film is.

The sign of a great movie is one where you can pick up on stuff with repeat viewings. Avengers is certainly one of those movies.

Complete agreed.

This movie feels feels like the comics sprang to life. It was fun and entertaining, and deep.

[The Morningstar]

Yea, for me, it's the ultimate superhero movie. It's one of the best Avengers stories, period. Comics included.

[DyeLorean]

I didn't think Chronicle was really THAT good. A couple of new ways of approaching the 'found footage' genre is not enough.
To be honest, I think it could have been a lot better as a regular movie, properly filmed.

[A Necessary Evil]

Morningstar is probobanned again?