State your unpopular film related opinion - Part 8

[Wesley Dodds]

Pretty much the only thing I actually liked about Die Another Day was the way Bond was captured at the end of the pre-requisite opening sequence (instead of the more traditional bad ass escape scene).
That was a really interesting idea, I thought.

[Majik1387]

Another unpopular opinion, I don't really care much for Connery's Bond. I guess he worked for the role at the time frame, but I just didn't care for him like I do for Brosnan, Craig, or even Moore.

[Eddie Dean]

But he's sooooooooooooooo handsome and charming! Also super bad ass.

[Wesley Dodds]

Connery's Bond can also be a proper bastard sometimes. An essential quality for the role and one that gets lost sometimes...

[Majik1387]

Nah, he was more handsome and charming in Darby O'Gill and the Little People than he was as Bond.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

Connery's Bond can also be a proper bastard sometimes. An essential quality for the role and one that gets lost sometimes...

Didn't he hit at least one woman per Bond film he was in?

[Wesley Dodds]

Originally Posted by Drizzle

Didn't he hit at least one woman per Bond film he was in?

I think so, yeah. I mean, it wasn't in the script, Connery just... Did it.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

I'm sorry but how is The Avengers all that different from that?

Why the apology?

The dialogue and the relationships between the character were more thought out. Also, it just has more of a personal touch and style to the script more than the others, which makes it feel less static.

[Travesty]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Nah, he was more handsome and charming in Darby O'Gill and the Little People than he was as Bond.

I love that movie. I haven't watched it in many years.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Tomorrow Never Dies[/I] only suffered from a bad villain; Teri Hatcher didn't do enough in the movie for the hate that I've seen her receive. Wai Lin is one of the best Bond girls. The henchman was cool, and the action was great.

My problem with TND was more than the villain. That's the only bad thing that sticks out though.

My problem was that, other than the awesome pre-credit sequence, there's nothing it does that makes it a great Bond movie. The villain and the media aspect is underdeveloped and underexplored, the action to me is by the numbers, and disappointing (I didn't like the remote control thing. I would have rather him drive himself). I also feel like Teri Hatcher was killed off too soon.

TND doesn't do anything really wrong, but it feels so incredibly by the numbers. That's why I only find it okay.

I have The World Is Not Enough ranked pretty high for a Bond film, the only negative has already been mentioned. I could believe Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist visually if her outfits weren't skanked up and if she actually tried to act the role. It was her delivery alone that hindered the movie for me. Elektra is one of my top Bond villains.

The first hour of TWINE was pretty good, but once Richards gets introduced, it all goes downhill. My problem with TWINE is the same with TND. It's like they had a checklist for the Bond formula that they finally retooled with Goldeneye and had to check them off, such as having two key Bond girls per movie, having someone personal (or in this case, become personal) to Bond, etc.

I think if EON gave more freedom to screenwriters like they're giving now (and if they answered Brosnan's pleas for a darker tone in Bond movies), those movies would have been better.

In short, TWINE's main issue is that after trying to go into a new direction for a Bond movie, it falls back into the formula and falls victim of it.

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Another unpopular opinion, I don't really care much for Connery's Bond. I guess he worked for the role at the time frame, but I just didn't care for him like I do for Brosnan, Craig, or even Moore.

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Kidding. I just really wanted to use that picture.

[Mario_Galaxy]

I always thought Brosnan had probably the best look. I never saw Bond as the type to actually look like an agent, just a playboy (I think Fleming did, too). When Connery and Craig walk into a room, you know bodies are going to drop.

[Parker Wayne]

Actually if you go by novels, Timothy Dalton looks most like novel Bond.

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by Eddie Dean

But he's sooooooooooooooo handsome and charming! Also super bad ass.

The best Bond of them all for me. Sean is the man.

[CConn]

If you go by the novels, James Bond also likes the sweet tang of rape.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

Why the apology?

Have you ever heard of a person 'breaking the ice'? Well, they're not actually breaking ice, you see? (and when I say 'you see?' I'm not actually asking if you can see).

It's never late to start learning figures of speech.

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

The dialogue and the relationships between the character were more thought out.

Well, a good thing was the absence of unneeded love interests (because Black Widow was necessary). And well, when you don't have to explain the characters' backgrounds because they have already been explained, sure, things get easier and you can just move forwards, that's true. I'm not sure about 'thought out' but definitely not having to explain who they are and what they want.

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

Also, it just has more of a personal touch and style to the script more than the others, which makes it feel less static.

What part of Avengers was personal? Does it reflect Whedon's life or something?

[A Necessary Evil]

I doubt this is unpopular, but whatever.

Despite TDKR being a portion of an adaptation of No Man's Land, I wanna see an animated adaptation of that. Along with TKJ.

[Majik1387]

I think all of the major Batman stories should be adapted into animation.

[A Necessary Evil]

to that.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Severus_Snape

I doubt this is unpopular, but whatever.

Despite TDKR being a portion of an adaptation of No Man's Land, I wanna see an animated adaptation of that. Along with TKJ.

TDKR is a partial adaptation of No Man's Land?

[A Necessary Evil]

Gotham being sealed off and such, yeah.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

I think all of the major Batman stories should be adapted into animation.

I'd love to see The Killing Joke. Didn't Mark Hamill say he'd come out of Joker retirement for that? That would be THE swan song for not only him, but Kevin Conroy as well.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Severus_Snape

Gotham being sealed off and such, yeah.

That's a pretty thin connection.

The movie seems to be much more based off of A Tale of Two Cities (like Nolan said it was).

[A Necessary Evil]

Originally Posted by CConn

That's a pretty thin connection.

The movie seems to be much more based off of A Tale of Two Cities (like Nolan said it was).

Also because of gotham being taken over by gangs. Plus it's based off of some of knightfall + ATOTC.

[Rowsdower!]

Since we're on comics... as much as I love Alan Moore, I found The Killing Joke a tad short and underwhelming. It's still very good, but as far as great Joker stories go, The Man Who Laughs and The Laughing Fish are probably my favorites.

[Wesley Dodds]

Originally Posted by Rowsdower!

Since we're on comics... as much as I love Alan Moore, I found The Killing Joke a tad short and underwhelming. It's still very good, but as far as great Joker stories go, The Man Who Laughs and The Laughing Fish are probably my favorites.

I believe the man himself considers it the least of his works. Actually, I think I read him say once he only finished it as a favour to Brian Bolland.
Personally, I think The Killing Joke's simplicity is it's greatest strength.