Re: 2012 NFL Thread: Where Jaguaring Happens

[Matt]

With either Matt Moore or Ryan Tannehill behind center, he won't be productive enough to make it worth undermining Philbin. Dolphins need to look long term. A diva like Ocho isn't going to last long term and having him **** up the chemistry or divide the locker room at the expense of one or two good seasons (and then a retirement) just isn't worth it, IMO.

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by Matt

With either Matt Moore or Ryan Tannehill behind center, he won't be productive enough to make it worth undermining Philbin. Dolphins need to look long term. A diva like Ocho isn't going to last long term and having him **** up the chemistry or divide the locker room at the expense of one or two good seasons (and then a retirement) just isn't worth it, IMO.

There's a surplus of good, young receivers in NFL right now, and teams like Fins don't need an old diva like Ochocinco on their team. This is also why TO cannot find any work right now.

[Darthphere]

The whole diva thing is overblown IMO. He gets out of hand? Waive him. An NFL contract might as well be written on toilet paper.

[Scrandy Randy]

I'd take a shot at him. I definitely think his diva mentality is overblown and he's definitely a step up from TO in that regard. I think he'll respond well with that chip on his shoulder after being phased out in New England.

[TMC1982]

NFL Broadcasts Too Often Offer the Lowest Level of Analysis

[The Incredible Hulk]

Originally Posted by Matt

There is one team that if I were their GM I would even consider signing Ocho, Detroit. His personality fits in perfectly with Schwartz's culture and he could be effective in certain situations, either serving as a distraction to open up Megatron or being a cheap and effective deep threat when Megatron is double (or triple) covered.

We already have that in Nate Burleson. And Burleson can still actually play. IMO Ochocinco is shot.

[Dr. Evil]

Originally Posted by TMC1982

NFL Broadcasts Too Often Offer the Lowest Level of Analysis

And yet, NFL games get massive ratings on TV.

[TheOnlyOmega]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

So can anyone explain why Ochocinco was so bad last season? I totally forgot he was on a team all last season.

The best explanation that I can come up with is the system he's playing in. I'm sure he can still catch the ball, but why would Brady throw to him when there are 2 other guys wide open? I think Ocho would shine being a number 2 receiver where he actually gets some looks.

[Donut]

Well this should be something

Chad Ochocinco to work out for Miami Dolphins

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/m...0,633369.story

[Immortalfire]

Our pal Rowsdower will love this. The newest sports fan craze: Jaguaring

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[The Incredible Hulk]

that video makes me want to punch a small, woodland creature...

[Parker Wayne]

When are they gonna move from Jacksonville. This is getting even sadder.

[BatSpider]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

When are they gonna move from Jacksonville. This is getting even sadder.

Los Angeles sounds about right.

[Erzengel]

Eff LA.

[TheOnlyOmega]

Originally Posted by Immortalfire

Our pal Rowsdower will love this. The newest sports fan craze: Jaguaring

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

There are Jags fans? The more you know, I guess.

[DoomsdayApex]

Jaguaring?

[kane9321]

Originally Posted by Immortalfire

Our pal Rowsdower will love this. The newest sports fan craze: Jaguaring

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

omg

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

Eff LA.

A brand new 1 billion dollar football stadium and #2 media market all to themselves, why would it be a bad idea?

[Erzengel]

A) They had 2 teams already and lost them twice.

B) With any expansion or moving of a team, a team just doesn't move and boom, they are going to sell out instantly. It takes YEARS to build a team in a new city. And no self respecting fan of another team is going to jump ship for a new local team.

If the NY Mets became the NJ Mets, I wouldn't stop cheering for the Yankees.

The reason I bring this up is the whole, yeah #2 media market idea that an LA team would be instantly popular.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

Eff LA.

I'm mixed. I want my Rams too move back to LA because it's way better than St. Louis, but at the same time LA barely gives a s**t about the teams they do have, and not to mention they screwed up having two teams.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

B) With any expansion or moving of a team, a team just doesn't move and boom, they are going to sell out instantly. It takes YEARS to build a team in a new city. And no self respecting fan of another team is going to jump ship for a new local team.

If the NY Mets became the NJ Mets, I wouldn't stop cheering for the Yankees.

The reason I bring this up is the whole, yeah #2 media market idea that an LA team would be instantly popular.

In their defense, it worked for the Texans and Ravens.

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

A) They had 2 teams already and lost them twice.

B) With any expansion or moving of a team, a team just doesn't move and boom, they are going to sell out instantly. It takes YEARS to build a team in a new city. And no self respecting fan of another team is going to jump ship for a new local team.

If the NY Mets became the NJ Mets, I wouldn't stop cheering for the Yankees.

The reason I bring this up is the whole, yeah #2 media market idea that an LA team would be instantly popular.

I'm tired of posting about the reasons why Raiders and Rams left, but it had alot to do with their respective owners and not because LA drove them out. Al Davis left because he wanted another stadium that isn't the LA Coliseum, and even after Irwindale offered him millions for a proposed new stadium, he took the money and ran anyway. And Georgia Frontiere pretty much sabotaged her team and even threatened to sue the league unless they let her move her team, which was back to her own hometown in St. Louis.

And what's ironic about all these is that neither Raiders nor Rams got a new stadium after their relocation, with Raiders rumored to move in with the Niners in a stadium in Santa Clarita, and Rams were promised to get a new public-financed stadium but that promise never materialized. Los Angeles had supported Rams for 49 years so I don't understand what is all these talks about the city not willing to support a football team.

But anyway, if NFL wants to make money, they will go to Los Angeles instead of staying at Jacksonville, which for all their supposed support for the Jaguars, still have games that were blackouted by the league.

[TheOnlyOmega]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

In their defense, it worked for the Texans and Ravens.

Both of those cities had tons of fans who had their previous team move away. Both of those cities want football. The population of LA is far too populated with fans of other teams to root for an LA team.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by TheOnlyOmega

Both of those cities had tons of fans who had their previous team move away. Both of those cities want football. The population of LA is far too populated with fans of other teams to root for an LA team.

Good point.

Originally Posted by Raiden

I'm tired of posting about the reasons why Raiders and Rams left, but it had alot to do with their respective owners and not because LA drove them out. Al Davis left because he wanted another stadium that isn't the LA Coliseum, and even after Irwindale offered him millions for a proposed new stadium, he took the money and ran anyway. And Georgia Frontiere pretty much sabotaged her team and even threatened to sue the league unless they let her move her team, which was back to her own hometown in St. Louis.

And what's ironic about all these is that neither Raiders nor Rams got a new stadium after their relocation, with Raiders rumored to move in with the Niners in a stadium in Santa Clarita, and Rams were promised to get a new public-financed stadium but that promise never materialized. Los Angeles had supported Rams for 49 years so I don't understand what is all these talks about the city not willing to support a football team.

But anyway, if NFL wants to make money, they will go to Los Angeles instead of staying at Jacksonville, which for all their supposed support for the Jaguars, still have games that were blackouted by the league.

God, I hated Georgia Frontiere as the owner. She was such a terrible owner who didn't care about the team.

There was also the issue of stadium with the Rams. I believe they were getting more money from St. Louis than Los Angeles.

[TheOnlyOmega]

Do the Rams really need a new stadium? The Edaward Jones dome isn't that old.