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Old 04-11-2012, 07:51 AM   #26
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Ehhh, I've seen better jets.

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Old 04-11-2012, 08:45 AM   #27
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:52 PM   #28
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I just don't get why mutants are hated so much when there's so many other superhumans running around. I think mutant hate would end up as general superhuman hate.

And I'd love to see a MU Daily Show with Hank McCoy on it as the Senior Mutant Correspondent.
That's something I've always wanted to see. Basically, unless you have an Avengers membership to wash the stigma of your powers away in the public consciousness, it seems like these anti-mutant bigots would just lump everyone with powers under the "muties" label. Bigots aren't generally known for their keen understanding of scientific facts like exactly what genetic marker makes a mutant different from some kid who got bitten by a radioactive lemur.

"M-Day? What's M-Day? There are still tons of those filthy muties running around! Kids with powers are coming out of the woodwork! What now? The f*** is an 'X-factor gene'? If the kid can shoot lasers out of his butt, he's a goddamn filthy mutie!"

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That's something I've always wanted to see. Basically, unless you have an Avengers membership to wash the stigma of your powers away in the public consciousness, it seems like these anti-mutant bigots would just lump everyone with powers under the "muties" label. Bigots aren't generally known for their keen understanding of scientific facts like exactly what genetic marker makes a mutant different from some kid who got bitten by a radioactive lemur.

"M-Day? What's M-Day? There are still tons of those filthy muties running around! Kids with powers are coming out of the woodwork! What now? The f*** is an 'X-factor gene'? If the kid can shoot lasers out of his butt, he's a goddamn filthy mutie!"
Well, I mean, that still basically happens. Most people in Marvel assume Spider-Man is a mutant. It was never brought up before his identity as Banner was revealed but it wouldn't surprise me if people assumed The Hulk was a mutant, seeing as how nobody new where he came from for years until Ross found out that Bruce was The Hulk.

I mean, there isn't a stigma about being a superhero with artificial powers, which makes a lot of sense to me, but most superheroes in the Marvel universe who are beloved and have artificial powers are, like you said, members of either The Avengers or the Fantastic Four. Everyone else, at best, nobody really cares about if they don't outwardly hate them. And about half of the c-list superheroes in Marvel who don't have powers are mutants anyway.

I also think it's important to remember that racism and bigotry take a lot of different forms, not just overt hatred and fear.

Like, for example, assuming that a black guy wearing plain street clothes listening to his iPod is listen to hip hop, that's racist. Assuming a person of Irish descent drinks a lot is kind of racist. Assuming that any random guy on the street is a pervert who loves sports, or assuming that any random woman on the street is emotional and loves shopping, those are both sexist. Being a straight person and immediately assuming that a gay person of the same sex you just met is going to start hitting on you is homophobic, even if you don't voice it and the feeling soon passes. They're not in of themselves harmful or evil. They don't really matter at all. But they still come from a place of bigotry, even if it's in an incredibly minor way.

Similarly, someone might assume that several super heroes who aren't mutants are because they don't know their origin story. And they might think well of them overall, but still hold weird and kind of arbitrary assumptions about them or expectations of their behavior based on stereotypes or ignorant opinions.

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I've had this conversation so many times, I can't even bring myself to bother anymore. If anybody has a problem understanding why there's a double standard between the Mutates and the Mutants, then they simply don't understand Bigotry.

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I understand why there's a distinction, I just don't understand how people know the distinction. It seems like there should be more misunderstandings. No one's running around checking blood samples before they hate on people with powers in the Marvel universe.

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I understand why there's a distinction, I just don't understand how people know the distinction. It seems like there should be more misunderstandings. No one's running around checking blood samples before they hate on people with powers in the Marvel universe.
Again, I remember many different instances of random civilians in stories assuming a super hero who's origin was not public knowledge was a mutant wether he actually was or not.

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Old 04-12-2012, 12:07 AM   #33
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When you really stop and think about it, MOST of the heroes who aren't mutants have public identities. Iron Man, Cap, the FF, Wonder Man, Ms...I mean "Captain Marvel", etc. Everybody knows who they are. They know how they got their powers.

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I guess I've missed those.

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Paige Guthrie/Husk


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Old 04-12-2012, 02:32 AM   #36
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Love them both.

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Old 04-12-2012, 02:45 AM   #37
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I think Paige is stupid for ripping her clothes off like that, she can change her skin without losing clothes
I like her as a character though, same goes for Madrox

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Madrox is awesome.

One of my favorite characters of all time.

I don't give a crap about Husk though.

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Both are cool. Especially Madrox. Self-Multiplication is such a cool power, not even The Matrix sequels could ruin it.

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No experience with Dusk.

Madrox is awesome. X-factor sold me on that one. I should get more of those trades...

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I love Paige. She hasn't been used nearly enough in the X-comics since Generation X ended.

Jamie is just all kinds of great. I like to think of him as a reluctant badass.



By the way, you made a typo up there. Dusk?

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By the way, you made a typo up there. Dusk?
Remember her name that way.
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I love Madrox. I haven't read much with Husk, but what I have read hasn't impressed me.

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I understand why there's a distinction, I just don't understand how people know the distinction.
hahahahahaha i guess it really doesnt help when you are running around with a big honkin "X" on your outfit( i am pretty sure those boneheads in the marvel U dont think they're with Malcolm X's nation of Islam selling bean pies! Hahahaha) plus you are hanging out with Subby who has tried to sink the surface world for years!( i still hate that he's a mutant crap!) thats gotta piss people off!

Husk- is cool i like her power
MM- i dig his power and stuff till he went all emo/ angst whatever!

and hey Spider not to be a spoil sport( cause that's not my role here. i am the break the fourth wall guy/ fun one. see it says so right here in the hype program on page 36, but didnt we covered MM before with Random?, not that i care if we do redoo's! hehe)

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Madrox used to be a goofball but now he's an awesome character.

Husk is ok, the thing I most remember about her was her creepy affair with Warren.

F**king Chuck Austen.

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@BLACKVULCAN: You're right, and the purpose of arranging the list the way I did was to avoid that. Newbies rejoice.

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Husk has potential but it's never been realized.

Multiple Man is awesome.

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D'Spayre is kind of cool. He's sort of a lesser figure among the cosmic god-types, though. Like a B-list deity.

Does Ted Sallis do anything besides turn into the Man-Thing that one time and then never turn back? I feel like the answer is "no."

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Wow, some real obscure stuff

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