The Night Gwen Stacy Died

[psylockolussus]

Originally Posted by spida-man

i'm not saying we need to have films where Andrew will be playing spidey in his 40s..i'm saying this series doens't need to be a trilogy

i mean is nobody else tired of the same ol stupid cliche with superhero films?

this series should NOT be a trilogy...it should get at least 5 or 6 films IMHO...especially since sony originally wanted to do that with the raimi films anyway.

and unless they die in the comics, the villains should not die i the films..i'm tired of that lame-ass cliche as well.

we have 50 years worth of Spider-Man comics and stories and alternate universes and u mean to tell me the only way to make a film series with him successful is to wrap it all up with a third film?

We have tons of stories from when he was in high school, when he was in college, and as of now obviously out of college.

there is no reason why this series should be a trilogy and no reason why t can't and shouldn't get more than three films.

I want 6 Spider-Man films with Andrew Garfield if TAS is good.

Imagine if Sony just sticked with the 2-year gap of the original Spider-Man movie series and they didn't reboot it, Spider-Man 6 would have been released this summer of 2012.

[Venom'sDad]

I don't see Gwen dying in the sequel. I don't necessarily see Goblin in the sequel...maybe a hint of him being there.

[TheWallCrawler]

Originally Posted by Venom'sDad

I don't see Gwen dying in the sequel. I don't necessarily see Goblin in the sequel...maybe a hint of him being there.

Maybe not in the sequel but you gotta agree that "the night gwen stacy died" is a must in this series

[spideyguy16]

I want Mysterio to be involved somehow.
It will add to the conspiracy of how gwen actually died. Of course it should be that its because her neck snapped.
Now it could be either
1. The goblin killed her befpre he arrived to the bridge
2. Peter killed her
3. Its an illusion

And mysterio could make Peter see her and mess with his head.

[ITheSymbioteI]

Originally Posted by psylockolussus

I want 6 Spider-Man films with Andrew Garfield if TAS is good.

Imagine if Sony just sticked with the 2-year gap of the original Spider-Man movie series and they didn't reboot it, Spider-Man 6 would have been released this summer of 2012.

I would honestly be fine with 6 movies in this universe if things go well. The first trilogy could be him in high school (maybe the 3rd movie he's in college). The second trilogy pretty much could be him in college years.

Its a really big undertaking to do 6 movies though. You're talking about essentially more than 12 years of working on the same franchise. Not many people end up really doing that.

[ITheSymbioteI]

Originally Posted by spideyguy16

I want Mysterio to be involved somehow.
It will add to the conspiracy of how gwen actually died. Of course it should be that its because her neck snapped.
Now it could be either
1. The goblin killed her befpre he arrived to the bridge
2. Peter killed her
3. Its an illusion

And mysterio could make Peter see her and mess with his head.

I see Mysterio as a good psychological villain after Gwens death. Would be pretty intense if Peter sees an illusion (or maybe even a hallucination) of Gwen and has to undergo the same tragedy and loss he went through at the bridge (or wherever she dies). Pretty good emotional impact there.

[spideyguy16]

That's what I'm going for. Maybe the hallucination could so strong he feels like he's reliving the whole night.

[Venom'sDad]

Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler

Maybe not in the sequel but you gotta agree that "the night gwen stacy died" is a must in this series

I don't know it's a must; but, it certainly would have a huge impact on the franchise if they do decide to follow through....just as important, how it's done.

Not sure, but i have a gut feeling Dr. Ratha(possibly Chameleon) will play a role in moving, "The Death of Gwen Stacy" in that direction, indirectly. Neitherless, I think Webb would invest more time & development of the character Gwen, and her relationship with Peter, to get the GA so emotionally wrap around these two, before proceeding with such an event, as to her death. This is the biggest reason why I don't see it happening in the sequel. Great story telling wouldn't push it so fast, and possibly wouldn't be so obvious.

[zece]

Originally Posted by spida-man

i'm not saying we need to have films where Andrew will be playing spidey in his 40s..i'm saying this series doens't need to be a trilogy

i mean is nobody else tired of the same ol stupid cliche with superhero films?

this series should NOT be a trilogy...it should get at least 5 or 6 films IMHO...especially since sony originally wanted to do that with the raimi films anyway.

and unless they die in the comics, the villains should not die i the films..i'm tired of that lame-ass cliche as well.

we have 50 years worth of Spider-Man comics and stories and alternate universes and u mean to tell me the only way to make a film series with him successful is to wrap it all up with a third film?

We have tons of stories from when he was in high school, when he was in college, and as of now obviously out of college.

there is no reason why this series should be a trilogy and no reason why t can't and shouldn't get more than three films.

Something like this ?


Amazing Spider-Man: Lizard
Amazing Spider-Man 2: Scorpion created by Jameson, E. Brock, Kingpin and MJ appear
Amazing Spider-Man 3: Green Goblin, Spider-Man gets the symbiote, & the death of Gwen Stacy
Amazing Spider-Man 4: Venom
Amazing Spider-Man 5 : Kingpin, Hammerhead, Smythe with series of crimes Spidey has to stop, Black Cat helps him to defeat these 3.[maybe some spider slayers ?] *dreams*

TASM 2 : GG, Gwen dies, MJ and JJ appear.

[SpaceWay2009]

So in TASM 3, Spider-Man would be fighting GG with the symbiote suit?

[SpiderMarvelite]

I hope the symbiote in TASM3 makes Peter full badass and rough, not hair-flicking and dancing...

eg. Like this:

Peter is walking down the streets in the suit, camouflaged as a hoodie and jeans.
Cops stop him down an alley way because he looks thug-ish, he attacks back and grabs the cop by the shirt collar.
" Get the *FECK* outta my way"
He leaves them and walks off with no regrets showing his full face.

To me that shows how its taking over him, he doesn't care.

[zece]

Originally Posted by SpaceWay2009

So in TASM 3, Spider-Man would be fighting GG with the symbiote suit?

The symbiote would make Peter angrier than ever when he sees Gwen dead, he kills GG and realises what he did. He gets rid of the symbiote in the church, Brock is there and then TASM4 is all about Venom. That's my vision.

[SpiderMarvelite]

^ good vision I like that :P

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by zece

The symbiote would make Peter angrier than ever when he sees Gwen dead, he kills GG and realises what he did. He gets rid of the symbiote in the church, Brock is there and then TASM4 is all about Venom. That's my vision.

I had the same idea. While I see the strength in having Peter kill Goblin w/o the black suit, I think it would work better in some ways to have him do it while wearing the black suit.

[Venom'sDad]

Bad idea and would be repeating the same format of SM3

[awesome232]

Originally Posted by zece

The symbiote would make Peter angrier than ever when he sees Gwen dead, he kills GG and realises what he did. He gets rid of the symbiote in the church, Brock is there and then TASM4 is all about Venom. That's my vision.

Awesome idea! I dont see the problem w/ having the black suit pushing Peter over the edge to where he accidentally kills the Goblin. Its a pretty good idea. But im against normal Spider-Man killing thr Goblin because he should no his limit. Black suit makes him lose control.

[Venom'sDad]

So now you can remove and wash Peter's hand of the responsibility of killing Green Goblin. Oh, the suit made me do it. I get it now..."with great power, comes no responsibility." Fantastic.

NO!

[Anno_Domini]

No symbiote and no Venom.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Venom'sDad

So now you can remove and wash Peter's hand of the responsibility of killing Green Goblin. Oh, the suit made me do it. I get it now..."with great power, comes no responsibility." Fantastic.

NO!

I'm sorry....this made me laugh, lol.

I mean...Peter should be strong enough to conquer the symbiote in killing anyone. The symbiote wanted to kill Shocker in Spider-Man:TAS, but Peter overcame that to stop Shocker from falling to his death. To have Peter NOT overcome and end up killing Green Goblin would be an ignorant thing to do. Peter understands about power and responsibility, but can't overcome the symbiote when it wants to kill? That'd be pathetic.

I WISH for four films myself with Lizard in 1, Electro in 2, Green Goblin in 3 and Mysterio in 4, but...if we're only getting a trilogy, then...I'd have GG in 2 and 3...I'm starting to like that idea which has been mentioned before, and GG controls Electro in film 3 much like how GG controlled Molten Man in TSSM.

[spida-man]

i don't want to see any more friggin symbiotes anytime soon. as much as i would LOVE to see Carnage, and to have Robert Knepper play Carnage, i'm really REALLY tired of symbiotes in media other than the comics themselves at this moment in time

[PSYLENTGuardian]

The symbiotes would work though. Who cares if SM3 tarnished it? Make it better. SSM did it.

It fits with the whole Oscorp continuity, too. Sorry to all the people who want villains who don't tie into Oscorp like Mysterio or maybe Electro. But considering the fact that Oscorp has a very strong prominence in this movie alone and that the death of Gwen Stacy is bound to happen, then we're looking at a trilogy focusing on Peter squaring off against Oscorp and bringing closure to the mystery of his parents.

Remember that I can always be wrong with these assumptions. I'm welcome to any ideas -- so long as they're done well.

[Anno_Domini]

Electro is a villain who CAN be tied to OsCorp. I've always said that Electro could be a "project" directly from Norman Osborn to go after Spider-Man.

Besides...it's better than the symbiotes, lol. We don't need only ONE new villain in this reboot trilogy.

[TheWallCrawler]

It doesn't matter what should be done, Sony will still want to introduce us to a better Venom so they can make a Venom movie. Also, one would think Marc Webb would be absolutely thrilled to do his own version of the black costume story, as it's potentially a very very character driven story. And as long as they will use a few new villains in the series, I don't really mind a new take on Venom because I believe that Webb could do something really innovative with him

My take on what villains should be in this series:
ASM2: Green Goblin and the enforcers (my version of the enforcers: Kraven, Rhino, and Shocker)
ASM3: Black suit and Mysterio. He would be framed for crimes, and the city dislikes him more than ever. He gets the black suit and starts to embrace the hatred. One of the scenes would be like this: Spidey has gotten the upper hand, and takes the fishbowl off. He sees a shivering, helpless man before himself, but Spidey doesn't hesitate and starts brutally, without mercy beating him up, and almost kills him. Then he realizes what he has become and so on.
ASM4: Venom (and Black Cat?)

[SpiderMarvelite]

If we doing his parents taken from the Ultimate story line, were gonna see Venom someday. Goblin before him tough.

[TheWallCrawler]

Originally Posted by SpiderMarvelite

If we doing his parents taken from the Ultimate story line, were gonna see Venom someday. Goblin before him tough.

If they go for the ultimate venom, I hope they wont entirely do that version, they should mix some 616 elements like in Spectacular Spider-man, but in a different way