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[Slipeor]

Originally Posted by Superwhat

I love when Tony says, "you're brother, the demi-god". You can tell Loki didn't like it, he seemed bothered when he said it. Then Tony notices it and puts on the bracelets. He knows things are about to go down. Love that attention to detail.

Also, can someone explain this line to me:

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"Maybe your army comes and maybe they are too much for us. But it's all on you."

How is it all on him?

It's a bit surreal to watch my two favorite characters interact with one another. I still can't believe this is happening.

I think he meant that even if they don't stop the army, they are going to kick Loki's butt. Hence the "damn sure we'll avenge it" line

[BAXWAR]

Originally Posted by Superwhat

Also, can someone explain this line to me:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

"Maybe your army comes and maybe they are too much for us. But it's all on you."

How is it all on him?

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

It sounds like Loki has summoned this Army. They haven't arrived yet, but they're on the way. Didn't Tony also say it may even be too much for Loki? I think he's implying that Loki won't be able to fully control this army - and that they will run rampant and destroy everything, including Loki. And it will be his fault.

At least that's how I understood it.

[Donut]

I wonder if Loki is thinking every time he talks to Tony

"God damn doesn't he ever shut up"

[Silvermoon]

Originally Posted by Donut

I wonder if Loki is thinking every time he talks to Tony

"God damn doesn't he ever shut up"

That could very well be the reason he throws him out the window

[Smashlilman]

Originally Posted by Donut

I wonder if Loki is thinking every time he talks to Tony

"Odin be damned doesn't he ever shut up"

Fixed!!!

[Gamma Goliath]

Originally Posted by Scarlettess

Awesome video! thanks Freshman! That 'date' with Pepper, I don't remember that, is that in Iron Man 2?

no it isn't.

[Superwhat]

Originally Posted by Silvermoon

I don't think it's so much him noticing Loki's reaction that inspires him to put on the bracelets, I think it's more like he's been wanting to get them on probably since Loki arrived and he's just taking advantage of the fact that Loki has (albeit briefly) turned his back on him... giving him the chance he needed. If that makes sense.

I don't know, it seems to me when the video started Loki was looking out the window. Tony had plenty of time to put on the bracelets then, but was instead pouring a drink for himself. Heck, maybe Loki gets mad Tony didn't offer a drink so he threw him out the window. Loki must have his drink!

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Silvermoon

That could very well be the reason he throws him out the window

I would do the same if I was him!

[marvel_freshman]

Interesting recent interview with Whedon

Kevin Feige, the Marvel Studios president, had told me you essentially won the “Avengers” assignment with a single e-mail.
They – they being Marvel, and most they being Kevin – know exactly what they need, so they really do let you make the decisions. And there was only one point of conflict, in terms of what they needed.

What was that?
It’s about the villains. I kept trying to add one. And they weren’t behind it. I feel like we made it work but that was the only thing we disagreed on.

And that character was –?
[teasingly] A specific figure. I wanted to have another guy in the mix, somebody who was up to their level, because I have all these strong guys! That was trouble. They felt the structure worked without it and it would be too much. But apart from that, everything they wanted, I completely agreed with. It’s like, “We want the Avengers not to settle their differences through talk.” O.K., good. I’m for that, too. It’s a superhero movie. Superheroics must take place.

What would be an example of something you didn’t figure out until later in the process?
One of the best scenes that I wrote was the beautiful and poignant scene between Steve and Peggy [Carter] that takes place in the present. And I was the one who was like, Guys, we need to lose this. It was killing the rhythm of the thing. And we did have a lot of Cap, because he really was the in for me. I really do feel a sense of loss about what’s happening in our culture, loss of the idea of community, loss of health care and welfare and all sorts of things. I was spending a lot of time having him say it, and then I cut that.

There are elements of “The Avengers” – alien invasion force; mysterious artifact – that we’ve just seen in other movies that haven’t fared very well.
Believe me, there are tropes in this movie that will appear as nothing else. I referred to the Tesseract more than a few times as “the MacGufferact.” The invasion at the end, that was stipulated. And all I could think was, Great, I know where I’m going. My whole thing was, make sure that none of this feels like a checkmark. But more than once, we watched the trailer for some movie and went, “Oh, are their aliens better than ours? Are they too similar?” Panic, panic, panic. At the end of the day, it’s like, Was there a story about human beings threaded through all of that? The superhero team movie is going to have a certain structure, but no cars turn into anything else except piles of rubble. Cars magically transform into burning cars. That part I’m happy about.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...of-his-career/

[J.Howlett]

Great interview and I'm so glad he called out Iron Man 2.

Crap. I'm starting to like this Whedon guy.

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by marvel_freshman

Interesting recent interview with Whedon

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...of-his-career/

a second villian?

[Pond]

So did he cut the Peggy in modern times scene or is my english flunky?

[ThePowerCosmic]

I love how Tony licks his lips at 0:10 as he pours the alcohol, looks like he can't wait to take a sip.

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Originally Posted by Pond

So did he cut the Peggy in modern times scene or is my english flunky?

Sounds like he's saying he just cut a certain scene with Peggy but she's still in the movie. That's how I interpreted it, at least.

[J.Howlett]

Originally Posted by Pond

So did he cut the Peggy in modern times scene or is my english flunky?

He did. We'll see how Steve's story plays out without this scene in the film.

[steintym]

I'm glad we finally got to see the unedited version of that scene between Stark and Loki.

[MrGreen]

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

I love how Tony licks his lips at 0:10 as he pours the alcohol, looks like he can't wait to take a sip.

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Sounds like he's saying he just cut a certain scene with Peggy but she's still in the movie. That's how I interpreted it, at least.

Nice catch, I didn't see that one.
I like the reactions of Loki. He looks menacing, angry, powerful and Tony looks kinda angry and nervious

[Compi716]

Originally Posted by marvel_freshman

Interesting recent interview with Whedon

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...of-his-career/

Kind of smells like a certain purple deviant didn't make the final cut.

[Silvermoon]

Originally Posted by MrGreen

Nice catch, I didn't see that one.
I like the reactions of Loki. He looks menacing, angry, powerful and Tony looks kinda angry and nervious

Agreed, I also like how, when Tony says "Maybe your army comes" you can see Loki kind of shifting his grip on the staff like he really wants to deck Tony with it


(yes, I've been watching the clip pretty much non stop since I first got in this morning and am at the point where I'm looking at it for the tiniest most miniscule little tid-bits..... "Hi, my name is Silvermoon, and I'm a Loki fangirl" ... sorry, I'm in a really weird mood today, if I get too silly, please feel free to find me a straightjacket)

[Rock Sexton]

Doing my best not to watch that Loki/Stark clip. Just need to hold out a little more than 72 hours and then I get to see everything!

[MrGreen]

Originally Posted by Silvermoon

Agreed, I also like how, when Tony says "Maybe your army comes" you can see Loki kind of shifting his grip on the staff like he really wants to deck Tony with it


(yes, I've been watching the clip pretty much non stop since I first got in this morning and am at the point where I'm looking at it for the tiniest most miniscule little tid-bits..... "Hi, my name is Silvermoon, and I'm a Loki fangirl" ... sorry, I'm in a really weird mood today, if I get too silly, please feel free to find me a straightjacket)

Wow, you really are looking every single detail in the clip.
May I say that you're the only girl I know that is into Loki. Most of the ones I know are into Thor.

[Dave40]

Originally Posted by Rock Sexton

Doing my best not to watch that Loki/Stark clip. Just need to hold out a little more than 72 hours and then I get to see everything!

I cant wait for your review.So you will see it this Saturday?.

[Rock Sexton]

Originally Posted by Dave40

I cant wait for your review.So you will see it this Saturday?.

Yup .... at 10am. Although I have a pool party to go to once I get out so my review prolly won't be up until Sunday. There are others on here though won advanced screening passes for the same day so I'm sure you'll get plenty of reviews.

[Silvermoon]

Originally Posted by MrGreen

Wow, you really are looking every single detail in the clip.
May I say that you're the only girl I know that is into Loki. Most of the ones I know are into Thor.

*lol* there's a couple of us in the Tom Hiddleston/Loki thread.

Thor/Hemsworth holds a special place in my heart too... after all, when I first saw Thor it was actually him (not Loki) that captured my attention. But alas, this past fall, Loki rose in my personal rankings. Thor still remains a very *very* close 2nd to him in terms of favorite comic book movie characters - and is 1st in my favorite CBM heroes list

[steintym]

With early reviews coming out, my ability to avoid spoilers will be challenged again. I have no willpower when it comes to spoilers.

[Dr. Sid Jawtug]

Originally Posted by Compi716

Kind of smells like a certain purple deviant didn't make the final cut.

I believe he was implying someone to match-up specifically with Hulk.
Thanos will be alluded to during the film and show up after credits is my best guess.