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Old 04-11-2012, 06:32 PM   #1
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I know alot of people have given their opinions on how they would've remade the entire series in their own ways,but I was just wondering about little scenes,lines or moments you would like to redo. Let's say the general plots and characters from the films are intact,but what little lines or moments would you change?
-Obviously,I'd give Venom a few more lines and cool things to do in Spidey 3. One idea I had was when Spidey and Venom first meet on top of that suspended taxi. Once Venom lands on the car I'd have him keep his "Venom face," and in a scary voice,growl the word," Parkerrrrr!!" Spidey would whisper to himself,"The symbiote!" Then Brock's face is revealed and Spidey says,"Oh my God! Eddie!" Brock would then say(with a twsited smile),"I'm flattered you still remember me,Pete. By the way,remember when you told me to find religion? Well,I found something better!" He would then grab MJ by the throat,as the symbiote would cover Brock's mouth. Then he uses a long tongue to lick the side of MJ's face and says,"Karma's a bit like her,Petey...kind of a bit@h!" Spidey would then leap at Brock only to be punched and knocked to the web below.

Just one of a few small tweeks I'd make.

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Old 04-18-2012, 03:39 PM   #2
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The hospital scene, I won't damage a strong horror scene with the cheesy 'NOOOOOOOO', I'll keep Octaviuses shock subtle, he'll walk through the hospital corridors in silent panic, people will panic, some will look inside the OR and call the police, no music the entire scene

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Old 04-18-2012, 06:24 PM   #3
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The "nooo" is fine, although I would keep the tentacles from reacting in the manner they reacted during the scene with screaming in agony with Otto.

I would also redo the entirety of Spider-Man 3. Keep in the line of straight-laced humor seen in 1 and 2 as well as the "cheese" that Raimi enjoys, but much less of it and better ideas for the characters, especially Aunt May who seemed like she had nothing to do in the film as well as making Captain Stacy actually ACT like a father/cares for his daughter.

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:59 AM   #4
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All the redo Spider-Man 3 really needs is:
  • Dancing, go away, shoo
  • Make Connors a biologist
  • Gwen Stacey in Peter's science class? Are they in middle school in my country or something? He's majoring physics, he should have lots of physics subjects
  • And Peter saying "Spider-Man used to be attacked all the time". Aahh, no, he was revered stupid
  • Crane scene, we need more details

And those, are nitpicks

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The dancing is no nitpick. That is a valid criticism.

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Old 04-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #6
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All the redo Spider-Man 3 really needs is:
  • Dancing, go away, shoo
  • When Peter danced around twice...it's not a nitpick. There's a difference between his happy spring step in Spider-Man 2 and grinding into nothingness in Spider-Man 3 when Raimi wanted the symbiote to look like a joke. I wouldn't mind the jazz scene as much if he didn't do that dance routine by himself earlier.

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  • Not a nitpick when it just messes up who Connors is in the comics, but although...this has happened already with Gwen being a model and not a nerd and MJ was not a party girl in the trilogy.

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  • Gwen Stacey in Peter's science class? Are they in middle school in my country or something? He's majoring physics, he should have lots of physics subjects
  • This may be a nitpick, lol. Do we even know what Peter is majoring in? And plus, for some subjects, you have to take courses outside of your major.

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  • And Peter saying "Spider-Man used to be attacked all the time". Aahh, no, he was revered stupid
  • He was hated by quite a bit of New Yorkers in the beginning of Spider-Man 1 and not just JJJ.

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And those, are nitpicks
And as I said....Captain Stacy should've acted like he cared enough to worry about the potential idea of Gwen falling to her death in that scene.

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All the redo Spider-Man 3 really needs is:
  • Dancing, go away, shoo
  • Make Connors a biologist
  • Gwen Stacey in Peter's science class? Are they in middle school in my country or something? He's majoring physics, he should have lots of physics subjects
  • And Peter saying "Spider-Man used to be attacked all the time". Aahh, no, he was revered stupid
  • Crane scene, we need more details

And those, are nitpicks
Heh, yeah. And all Batman & Robin needed was more make-up on Clooney.

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The dancing is no nitpick. That is a valid criticism.
It's a nitpick

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When Peter danced around twice...it's not a nitpick. There's a difference between his happy spring step in Spider-Man 2 and grinding into nothingness in Spider-Man 3 when Raimi wanted the symbiote to look like a joke. I wouldn't mind the jazz scene as much if he didn't do that dance routine by himself earlier.
Little scenes, remember?
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It's a nitpick
Entire scenes of goofball dancing are not nitpicks. Those scenes are some of the most criticized in Spider-Man 3.

If that's a nitpick then I shudder to think what a real criticism is.

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:56 PM   #10
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Entire scenes of goofball dancing are not nitpicks. Those scenes are some of the most criticized in Spider-Man 3.

If that's a nitpick then I shudder to think what a real criticism is.
Dancing scene 1 has plenty of cutaways, and it wasn't really a dance until he left the clothes store
Dancing in the club is a short scene

But losing your powers cause you keep sulking is a touching and smart idea that lasts 32 minutes
How about in SM3 we have Peter mad and upset in a way he loses his powers - AGAIN- then the symbiote goes on him and he can't shoot webs, then what?

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Little scenes, remember?
Nitpick
It'll be a little scene if it was just one scene, but two? No, that causes for criticism because there shouldn't be two pointless scenes of him dancing. Cut out that montage of "emo" Peter and only use the dance scene at the jazz club and that would be enough. It's more than just a nitpick when there were two scenes that lowered the quality of the entire film itself.

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Dancing scene 1 has plenty of cutaways, and it wasn't really a dance until he left the clothes store
Which was pointless as we only got a corny version of Peter from the symbiote, not an evil Peter that we should've gotten. Pointless, useless and shouldn't have been there.

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Dancing in the club is a short scene
It wasn't that short...about the same length of any battle Spidey had against Sandman.

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But losing your powers cause you keep sulking is a touching and smart idea that lasts 32 minutes
How about in SM3 we have Peter mad and upset in a way he loses his powers - AGAIN- then the symbiote goes on him and he can't shoot webs, then what?
Making some very ignorant comments such as this won't help your case. Peter losing his powers and "sulking" was fine for Spider-Man 2. Not a whole lot of people has a problem with that.

Plus...being upset won't have him lose his powers. Being upset is far different than being strained with his love life, personal life and working life.

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It'll be a little scene if it was just one scene, but two? No, that causes for criticism because there shouldn't be two pointless scenes of him dancing.
Little, and not with effect on the trilogy, just affecting their scenes
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Cut out that montage of "emo" Peter
Goofball arrogant dorky Peter, not emo Peter

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and only use the dance scene at the jazz club and that would be enough. It's more than just a nitpick when there were two scenes that lowered the quality of the entire film itself.
They are short, minor, and easier to ignore than what you defend

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Which was pointless as we only got a corny version of Peter from the symbiote, not an evil Peter that we should've gotten. Pointless, useless and shouldn't have been there.
The entire franchise revolves around a dork, you can't expect him to be as evil as the Web of Shadows version (TREMENDOUSLY wrong version BTW)

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It wasn't that short...about the same length of any battle Spidey had against Sandman.
No, it was shorter than his last fight with Sandman, and with his first

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Making some very ignorant comments such as this won't help your case. Peter losing his powers and "sulking" was fine for Spider-Man 2. Not a whole lot of people has a problem with that.
Ignothing, it's in its proper place, same universe has the same rules apply to it, and losing his powers in SM2 doesn't prevent losing his powers in SM3

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Plus...being upset won't have him lose his powers.
But it did
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Being upset is far different than being strained with his love life, personal life and working life.
Which is a very stupid cause for him to lose his powers, hence, stupid movie

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Move on and get back to talking about stuff you'll redo, like this stuff from SM1:
This Goblin line from times square: "We'll meet again, SPIDER-MAAAN". Omit this waste
Spidey saving MJ and swinging around with her instead of putting her down, fix that by just putting her down back in TS, and ever survivor from that balcony
In the burning building, just make Spider-Man's line "You're out of your mind"

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Dancing scene 1 has plenty of cutaways, and it wasn't really a dance until he left the clothes store
He was jigging down the street making those silly hand gestures with that music playing.

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Dancing in the club is a short scene
It was long enough to make an impression, spawn several parodies mocking it, and annoy many people.

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But losing your powers cause you keep sulking is a touching and smart idea that lasts 32 minutes
Translation: Losing your powers because you're isolated from your best friend, the girl you love, feeling guilty over your Uncle's death, losing jobs, failing college and unable to help your poor Aunt keep the family home.

Yes, that is touching.

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How about in SM3 we have Peter mad and upset in a way he loses his powers - AGAIN- then the symbiote goes on him and he can't shoot webs, then what?
Is this a rhetorical question or are you just fond of making up stupid scenarios that would never happen?

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Did I forget to say we should get back to the title suggestion? Cause I think that's overdue

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He was jigging down the street making those silly hand gestures with that music playing.

It was long enough to make an impression, spawn several parodies mocking it, and annoy many people.
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Translation: Losing your powers because you're isolated from your best friend, the girl you love, feeling guilty over your Uncle's death, losing jobs, failing college and unable to help your poor Aunt keep the family home.

Yes, that is touching.
It would be touching if he started losing hair, or had an ulcer

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Is this a rhetorical question or are you just fond of making up stupid scenarios that would never happen?
I'm fond of making fun of stupid scenarios, like that one in SM2

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I agree. I love seeing it being mocked for the rubbish it is.

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It would be touching if he started losing hair, or had an ulcer
I'm assuming that redundant remark is just more of your own brand of unfunny humor.

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I'm fond of making fun of stupid scenarios, like that one in SM2
If it was as stupid as you claim, it would have been parodied or mocked by the masses like the aforementioned rubbish in Spider-Man 3 was. But it wasn't.

If it was so stupid then Spider-Man 2 would not be hailed as one of the greats in the superhero genre since the power loss plot is a such a huge part of the story. Not to mention it's specifically taken from the comics where Peter lost his powers due to emotional stress.

Peter never danced around with an emo style haircut in the comics, thankfully.

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I agree. I love seeing it being mocked for the rubbish it is.
I like this spirit

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I'm assuming that redundant remark is just more of your own brand of unfunny humor.
It's not humor, it's how that scene would be far less silly and more serious

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If it was as stupid as you claim, it would have been parodied or mocked by the masses like the aforementioned rubbish in Spider-Man 3 was. But it wasn't.
It was stupid in the 60s comic, it was a little less stupid in the 90s cartoon, it's even more stupid in the movie

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If it was so stupid then Spider-Man 2 would not be hailed as one of the greats in the superhero genre since the power loss plot is a such a huge part of the story. Not to mention it's specifically taken from the comics where Peter lost his powers due to emotional stress.
Which makes it an overrated film, and look above

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Peter never danced around with an emo style haircut in the comics, thankfully.
I'm going to agree, the comics are less stupid than these movies anyway

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It's not humor, it's how that scene would be far less silly and more serious
That's absurd. Emotional pain is more touching than balding hair or an ulcer.

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It was stupid in the 60s comic, it was a little less stupid in the 90s cartoon, it's even more stupid in the movie
In what way? People get physically sick when they are in emotional pain and turmoil.

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Which makes it an overrated film
In your minority opinion, which you haven't given any justifiable reasons for yet.

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I'm going to agree, the comics are less stupid than these movies anyway
Impossible since the comics handled it in the exact same way.

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I'm not sure if I'd redo it or not,but the scene from the original where Ben's killer falls from the building and dies kinda bothers me. Shouldn't Peter have saved him? I mean,he didn't exactly kill him,but I don't think uncle Ben would've approved. Although,Peter's emotions were obviously in a dark place,considering he just watched his uncle die and now had the killer at his mercy.

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That's absurd. Emotional pain is more touching than balding hair or an ulcer.
Not if it has such stupid reaction

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In what way? People get physically sick when they are in emotional pain and turmoil.
It makes one lose hair or get stomach churning, but never a cripple

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In your minority opinion, which you haven't given any justifiable reasons for yet.
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Impossible since the comics handled it in the exact same way.
About the dancing and dealing with the symbiote
With the power loss due emotion, they are equally stupid

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Not if it has such stupid reaction
Which it didn't. So what's your problem?

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It makes one lose hair or get stomach churning, but never a cripple
The inability to shoot a web or stick to walls is not crippling. Whereas losing powers could be equated to losing your hair due to an emotional stress.

Not to mention it makes more sense he would lose his powers, since being Spider-Man was the source of his distress.

It's all very psychologically sound.

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Maybe not so minor
What are you basing that on?

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About the dancing and dealing with the symbiote
With the power loss due emotion, they are equally stupid
Wrong on both counts. The comics handled the power loss due to stress in the same way. It's taken from the comics.

There is no emo haired dancing BS due to the symbiote in the comics or any other Spider-Man medium thank god.

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Which it didn't. So what's your problem?
It has a stupid response

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The inability to shoot a web or stick to walls is not crippling. Whereas losing powers could be equated to losing your hair due to an emotional stress.
Him losing his power due emotional stress is like me or you sitting on our bottoms for the same reason

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Not to mention it makes more sense he would lose his powers, since being Spider-Man was the source of his distress.

It's all very psychologically sound.


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What are you basing that on?
A maybe, a possibility

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Wrong on both counts.
You said comics don't have dancing and I said they are less silly for that, are you arguing your point?

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The comics handled the power loss due to stress in the same way. It's taken from the comics.
Still silly

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It has a stupid response
That is not a stupid response to psychological stress.

Have you ever stopped and wondered why you seem to be the only one who thinks that?

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Him losing his power due emotional stress is like me or you sitting on our bottoms for the same reason
I don't know about you, but I don't equate sitting on my bottom as a stress in my life.

So your analogy is a failure there.

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A maybe, a possibility
In other words nothing.

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You said comics don't have dancing and I said they are less silly for that, are you arguing your point?
No I'm talking about your points regarding the power loss due to emotion.

In fact Peter has lost his powers for even less than that. He once lost them over a 24 hour flu of all things.

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I'm sorry but those dancing scenes are the equivalent of the bat-credit card in B&R.

Only the bat-credit card moment was much shorter.

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I'd replace 'Eddie' in the first movie with 'Lance', or don't make Eddie a new guy in SM3

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