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Thank you for correcting my mistake
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1. There is a *huge gap* between "heroes are not perfect" and "heroes don't exist" 2. The Registration Act was unjustifiable as only a very little of it had to do with identity and accountability. The rest had to do with enslavement and the burning of the Constitution. The former is moot in the MCU, which. . . just leaves the latter. |
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He would not be in support of slavery, which is what the Registration Act was. |
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eh.. not exactly. they actually usually opperate ABOVE the US gov. thus the "world security council"
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![]() "The only people (in the MCU) who know everyone's identity is Fury and SHIELD?" Are you serious? Tony went absolutely global-broadcast-live in telling the whole damn world that "I AM IRON MAN." EVERYBODY on the frickin' planet knows who Iron Man is. After the events of The Avengers, everybody on the frickin' planet knows who Captain America, The Hulk, Thor, Black Widow and Hawkeye are, too. They've become rockstars.
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Shield being the entity that they are of course know but I'm talking about the general public and the government (Shield may be part of the government but they act on two different levels). They do not know everyone's identity only some. And even in Shield it's usually Fury who knows everything not everyone. And even if the government does know everyones secret identities it's still a totally different ball game if there's an official list. At the end of the day an adaptation of Civil War is possible in the MCU
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That scenario in no way, shape or form exists within the MCU. (Yet.) Nobody in the MCU tries to hide their identity; nobody in the MCU is a vigilante; nobody in the MCU even acts as a crimefighter. Until you start getting that kind of superhero in the mix, there's no impetus for a Civil War. MCU heroes are generally known to the public (SHIELD agents notwithstanding; but they're government agents already) and have shown no indication that they want to go around acting like Spider-Man or Punisher or Daredevil, arbitrarily meting out justice on their own terms.
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![]() Even with a few vigilantes in the MCU like Punisher and Daredevil, whom Marvel do own, there aren't so many of them that it's out of hand. There could be as many as there are vigilantes in the real world who take matters into their own hands. Isn't Punisher's identity known anyway? It would only really be DD who has a secret identity, and whether he keeps it secret from SHIELD is another matter.
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The idea of superhero registration, however, will probably be a major focus of the SHIELD tv show. The adulation given to the Avengers subsequent to the Chituari invasion will lead to a number of "wanna bes", ranging from non-powered concerned citizens putting on colorful costumes to wealthy corporations (and for-profit prisons) uilizing mechanical and biological enhancement for fun and profit. SHIELD's response could bleed into the MCU, though for now I'd prefer that the Avengers just punch Thanos. |
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^That's exactly how I picture the SHIELD show working, too.
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to be fair... the avengers currently on the team, don't really have secret identities in the comics at the time of Civil War anyway... the identities part of civil war was truly only an issue for street level heroes. It was a moral argument for everyone else FORCE people to serve.
the current mcu really have no loved ones outside of shield or that they can't protect on their own to worry about an identity leak. I think the argument for "no secret identities" is kinda redundant at this point because these same characters didn't have SI's in the books at the time either... CW shouldn't come into play until we have some street level heroes established, and have seen more of the MCU. -Falcon -Winter Soldier -Ant-Man (if they want him on an anti-reg side) -Wasp (if they want her on an anti-reg side) -Doctor Strange are all coming soon which 3 of those 5 were anti-reg.... there's also rumblings of Heroes for Hire coming (which would cement a decent anti-reg team) it'd be smaller scale than the books.. but it still could happen by the end of Phase 3 |
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that doesn't mean they know everything shield does... the military works with SHIELD, but SHIELD is a higher authority... the military has no control over SHIELD, but Fury can tell the military to stand down. but not vice versa
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So what? Does it matter that they know everything they do? My point is that SHIELD is not independent of the government.
The military works with them and has access to them. So obviously the government will know who they are as well. We don't know who the World Security Council is and/or their authority either. Powers Boothe could be the vice president for all we know.
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SHIELD operates in the MCU sort of the way NATO does in the real world. It is an organization operated as an intergovernmental alliance of a number of countries for the protection of the Earth, above any one nation's military. One would assume that individual sponsor governments have representatives on the WSC and thus have access to information on members of the Avengers.
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No there isn't. But the point is that they are aware of SHIELD and know who they are and have some certain level of access to them.
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yes the US military is certainly aware of shield. but again, it's no indication of them knowing all about shield
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