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From Twitch: http://twitchfilm.com/news/2012/04/w...iron-man-3.php
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Awesome.
![]() Shaping up to be a stellar cast --- best one of the IM series. At this point, I'm placing all my bets on Kingsley being a mid-Eastern/Central Asian Mandarin, who stands in for comic-book Mallen as the victim/volunteer for Extremis. Wonder if Lau's character will be invented for the story, or if he'll draw from comic-book canon somewhere. Would be cool if he's named Jimmy Woo.
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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WOW. Big fan of his work, and I think it's awesome that he got to make his splash into mainstream with something as big as Iron Man.
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nice. the cast gets better every day.
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Sal Kennedy would round out the Extremis cast
RDJ as Iron Man Paltrow as Pepper Potts Cheadle as War Machine Andy Lau as Sal Kennedy (?) Guy Pearce as Aldrich Killian Jessica Chastain as Maya Hansen (?) Ben Kingsley as The Mandarin (?)
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Damn I would rather see Lau as Mandarin
His been my pick for that role for years! ![]() I know his against playing Asian sterotypical roles which is why he never bothered with Hollywood but I'm sure he could comeof with something differnt and intresting for the role.
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![]() Yeah, I wondered about Kingsley as Sal, but seems like Kingsley or Lau would be a big stretch as him, either way. (Jeff Bridges in full Lebowski would be the only way to go, but that's another story.) I'm thinking Sal isn't in this, either, but yeah, whoever Lau winds up playing may serve the same mentor role to Tony and Maya.
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I really hope a half-Indian/Englishman isn't playing The Mandarin.
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Interesting that he's playing a friend of Tony's.
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Love Lau....Happy to see him Debut in a Marvel Film
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Granted, I know that article says otherwise, but it really is hard not to think that he is the Mandarin.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...ing-iron-man-3
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I can't imagine they'll look anything like that in the movie.
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I can't help but wonder if a Batman Begins style bait and switch is in play here.
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Also Marvel names the Chiniese Avengers 'The Dynasty'? Does that sound as bad to anyone else as it does to me or is there a logical reason shown in the comic why they have such a silly name?
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If the Mandarin is flagrantly racist, why does he still appear in the comics?
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![]() J/K. Over the decades, a bunch of different writers have tried with varying degrees of success to modernize the character and shed the Fu Manchu stereotype. Honestly, most of the more recent portrayals of him have been pretty acceptable, imho. But I certainly understand Marvel & Disney's need to be very delicate with the matter and not alienate a billion potential new customers.
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What's racist about The Mandarin, exactly?
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Racist caricature I guess inspired by the whole "yellow peril" thing. Character was conceived before we had all these major manufacturing and trade ties with China plus we had the Korean and Vietnam wars. I guess you make an argument his name itself is a stereotype.
Not sure though how an honest take on the Mandarin could alienate China any more than say I mean . . . look at all their freaking supernatural kung fu movies! So let me get this straight, nothing at all wrong with Tom Cruise a white dude being the last Samurai is OK, but reinventing a classic Marvel character for the screen who is Chinese is unacceptable? Thing is, I mean for whatever reason comic writers have continued to use him over the years. So are we going to say Kurt Busiek is a racist? Sean Chen is a racist? Matt Fraction is a racist?
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I don't neccessarily think that makes him racist. Culturally insensitive, maybe, but even that's a stretch. Racist implies that negative qualities are attributed to that race. I don't see that from The Mandarin.
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In any event, I think adding Andy Lau as a Chinese hero who helps Iron Man defeat (again, presumably) Mandarin will probably be enough of a karmic and cultural balance to satisfy the politically correct.
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What if Andy Lau turned out to be the Mandarin though?
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I don't think China will be okay with that.
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I don't know, I think some may be reading too much into it. If the Mandarin's character in the film isn't racist and is well written then there probably won't be a problem if it turns out that's who Lau is playing.
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China is a huge market, and won't hesitate to ban the film if China is portrayed in a bad light via The Mandarin. I doubt he'll be appearing in anything close to what he is in the comics.
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