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Old 05-04-2012, 08:33 AM   #101
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In the comics, I agree with you. In the movies? sucking up screen time needed everywhere else and provides nothing to the overall story. Not to mention that he does take away from Tonys uniqueness.

"Provides nothing to the overall story....?"
Where on earth do you get *that* from? War Machine adds a major plot point in IM2; he acts as a foil to Tony; he acts as a friend to Tony; he acts as Tony's conscience.

And how does the WM armor take away from traditional IM armor's uniqueness? Yeah, they look similar, but just like in the comics, they're entirely different platforms....Iron Man's armor is more futuristic and rooted in sci-fi (beam weapons, repulsors, unibeams), while War Machine is definitely more 20th century military ballistics (bullets, missiles, rockets).

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Old 05-04-2012, 08:39 AM   #102
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Where on earth do you get *that* from?
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War Machine adds a major plot point in IM2; he acts as a foil to Tony; he acts as a friend to Tony; he acts as Tony's conscience.
Rhodey does that. Not War Machine


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And how does the WM armor take away from traditional IM armor's uniqueness? Yeah, they look similar, but just like in the comics, they're entirely different platforms....Iron Man's armor is more futuristic and rooted in sci-fi (beam weapons, repulsors, unibeams), while War Machine is definitely more 20th century military ballistics (bullets, missiles, rockets).
superficial differences. both are men in mecha suits with weapons. Just because WM is old school doesn't make his power set so very different that he works as more than a IM-clone.

I like WM in the comics, he serves a purpose there. but in the comics they have way more time to flesh it all out. IM2 showed us, that all WM can add to a movie is another guy in a high tech armor.

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superficial differences. both are men in mecha suits with weapons. Just because WM is old school doesn't make his power set so very different that he works as more than a IM-clone.

I like WM in the comics, he serves a purpose there. but in the comics they have way more time to flesh it all out. IM2 showed us, that all WM can add to a movie is another guy in a high tech armor.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

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The difference between War Machine and Iron Man isn't mainly the weapons, it is the perspective.

Stark brings the eccentric genius Sherlock Holmesy vibe.

Rhodey brings the grounded everyman perspective.

That's what makes them contrast and work dramatically, and would make them work even if the armors were utterly identical instead of just semi-identical.

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Rhodey does that. Not War Machine
Rhodey *is* War Machine. The only difference is if he's just a supporting character or does he get to kick some ass of his own.

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one thing i hope black carries over a few of the themes from the first two iron man films, specifically the theme of legacy, specifically the presence howard stark has in the films, despite being long deceased. I know they there was a fair bit of closure with this in the second one, but what favreau and downey did with the howard stark character was my favorite thing about iron man 2 (as well as captain america: first avenger), and it added a lot of the depth to the films. maybe have the ten rings involved with his fathers "car accident," or have stane and anton vanko have been a member of the ten rings as well.

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I do wonder if they'll literally use the Manadrin's rings as power. May be a little too similar to the Infinity Gauntlet if they go that route with Thanos?

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I think Rhodey is a must but not War Machine.

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one thing i hope black carries over a few of the themes from the first two iron man films, specifically the theme of legacy, specifically the presence howard stark has in the films, despite being long deceased. I know they there was a fair bit of closure with this in the second one, but what favreau and downey did with the howard stark character was my favorite thing about iron man 2 (as well as captain america: first avenger), and it added a lot of the depth to the films. maybe have the ten rings involved with his fathers "car accident," or have stane and anton vanko have been a member of the ten rings as well.

Pretty sure Stane *was* shown to be a member of the Ten Rings, and even referenced it with a big honkin' ring he wore on his finger.

Vanko, I couldn't really see that. He's more of a garden-variety basement psychopath. Justin Hammer, on the other hand, might be a prime candidate.

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Pretty sure Stane *was* shown to be a member of the Ten Rings, and even referenced it with a big honkin' ring he wore on his finger.

Vanko, I couldn't really see that. He's more of a garden-variety basement psychopath. Justin Hammer, on the other hand, might be a prime candidate.
I meant anton vanko, his father. not as a key plot point, but maybe he was looking to sell arc tech to the ten rings, hence why howard had him deported.

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In IM3, Stark will have more suits, than in all three films (Iron Man I-II + The Avengers) combined!

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Where is that from?

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Interesting, so 5 armors? I hope we see the stealth and aqua armors.

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I love the Tony-Pepper romance in the Avengers. I hope we get more of it in IM3.

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Interesting, so 5 armors? I hope we see the stealth and aqua armors.
Why does he need an aqua suit when Mark 6 perfectly worked under water?

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Because it's cool? Or it could be a case of needing to go to much lower depths.

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I wonder if the 'more suits than previous movies combined' just refers to Iron Man's Chinese friends who are rumoured to be wearing their own suits. I mean while it sounds great that IM will have more suits, I just can't see him needing to go through that many himself in one film. The previous suits have generally been story driven.

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I meant anton vanko, his father. not as a key plot point, but maybe he was looking to sell arc tech to the ten rings, hence why howard had him deported.
Okay, that's a good idea.
I still want to see Hammer revealed to have ties to the Ten Rings, though.

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Interesting, so 5 armors? I hope we see the stealth and aqua armors.
It'd be 8 armors.

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RDJ was on Leno he said the next suit would be more flexible in Iron man 3
Did he mean in context of filming? Or the actual movie?

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