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Old 08-30-2016, 03:28 PM   #1
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Default Is the over reliance on humour a problem in the MCU

For some reason the other thread was deleted instead of moved to the correct place but I thought it was a good subject.

Now obviously the MCU is very successful and most of the films are a lot of fun. But I know myself and others have a problem with the over abundance of humour sometimes. I think mostly it was bad in AOU when it seemed like the characters were fighting one another with one liners, almost like they were trying to one up each other.

I think it was at one of its worst in Iron Man 3 aswell when Tony Stark is cracking jokes even though he thinks Pepper is dead.

I think the film that balanced it best was Ant Man, the humour never felt out of place and when it was serious it was serious.

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I think it was at one of its worst in Iron Man 3 aswell when Tony Stark is cracking jokes even though he thinks Pepper is dead.
Don't watch Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and the Nice Guys. They crack jokes while people are dying!

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Don't watch Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and the Nice Guys. They crack jokes while people are dying!
Ohh k... I'm not saying it never works but it certainly doesn't work when a guy thinks the love of his life has just died.

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Ohh k... I'm not saying it never works but it certainly doesn't work when a guy thinks the love of his life has just died.

cracking jokes is a coping mechanism for a lot of people. I certainly would think it is totally inappropiate and out of character for Tony Stank to NOT have witty lines in that situation.
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Default Re: Is the over reliance on humour a problem in the MCU

What joke did he crack? The only joke -- not his -- I remember was his main armor breaking down before it comes to him. He did not crack the joke. It was situational.

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Sigh... Can't say anything bad about precious Marvel.

Infact I think I'm mistaken it want a joke it was the armour falling apart, a silly humourous moment injected into what should have been an emotional scene.

Still in AOU they were constantly delivering out if place one liners.

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Yes it is a problem sometimes, mostly with the early films. Other times the humor is executed perfectly and elevates everything.

I think Agent Coulson was really annoying and I'm glad he's being left out of the movies now. Not a fan of Kat Denning's Darcy either.

Lately, Marvel is totally on top of their game though. I think they just keep getting better as time goes on. My old issues with the MCU (comedy and bad villains) aren't really issues anymore. It's a near perfect adaptation of the comics universe IMO

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For me it was only problem in AOU because that film could have been epic if the kept the darker tone shown in the trailers.

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In liked Coulsen myself, Darcy hmm I could take or leave her but it did feel abit like she was in a different film to everyone else.

I have to admit I don't think it's been a problem since Age of Ultron but I think it could easily creep back in. It's like the scene in Guardians where Star Lord distracts the villain (forget his name) with a Michael Jackson dance. Thought that was a step too far.

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Infact I think I'm mistaken it want a joke it was the armour falling apart, a silly humourous moment injected into what should have been an emotional scene.
But it wasn't his joke. He didn't crack it. It was situational. You said Tony specifically. So it has nothing to do with your point.

And like I said, if you can't handle a joke being made after a death, don't watch another Shane Black movie.

Or a Scorsese movie. Or a Tarantino movie. Or a Coen Bros. movie.

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GOTG was a bit anticlimactic because of the dance off scene.

avengers going for shawarma still didnt sit right with me, i get people thought that was funny but their city almost got nuked. i feel like they shouldve been furious but it was kinda brushed off. also there were 100s of dead aliens everywhere and alien weaponry all over the city.

loki getting beat up looney tunes style was also pretty anticlimactic and made Loki a bit less intimidating.

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But it wasn't his joke. He didn't crack it. It was situational. You said Tony specifically. So it has nothing to do with your point.
Yes it does cause my original post is talking about humour in Marvel films. It's misplaced the grove it's exactly my point.

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Default Re: Is the over reliance on humour a problem in the MCU

i was referring to iron Man 3.

This is what you said about Iron Man 3:

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i was referring to iron Man 3.

This is what you said about Iron Man 3:
yes then I realised I was wrong but the humour was still misplaced so my point still stands. That's what this thread is about.

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Why is it misplaced? The humor wasn't made about Pepper or anything.

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Default Re: Is the over reliance on humour a problem in the MCU

Oh, and the title of this thread bothered me. But now I know why.

Marvel isn't 'reliant', much less 'over reliant' on humor. It's reliant on solid A to B storytelling and good characterization. Stuff that has made blockbusters worked since forever. The 'humor' is a textural thing. They neither make or break these films.

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Why is it misplaced? The humor wasn't made about Pepper or anything.
Because it's during what's meant to be an emotional scene.

Anyway not gonna keep arguing with you.

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Oh, and the title of this thread bothered me. But now I know why.

Marvel isn't 'reliant', much less 'over reliant' on humor. It's reliant on solid A to B storytelling and good characterization. Stuff that has made blockbusters worked since forever. The 'humor' is a textural thing. They neither make or break these films.
Ok then, you've said your peace.

I think there is an over realiance on humour, it's like the jump scares that have become cliches in horror movies. They rely on them to make the audience laugh, sure it's fun whilst you se it but later on you reflect and think actually that wasn't all that but it made me laugh. I actually think the problem with Marvels film is the formulaic plots and the humour. It's just got to a point where it's boring me.

Anyway agree to disagree.

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No. It wasn't 'during' an emotional scene. The emotional scene happened way before that humorous scene. Shane Black is a master of genre filmmaking. He knows, no, he intrinsically understands, exactly when to switch tones.

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No. It wasn't 'during' an emotional scene. The emotional scene happened way before that humorous scene. Shane Black is a master of genre filmmaking. He knows, no, he intrinsically understands, exactly when to switch tones.
Ok then if you say so, I disagree it wss out of place.

It's like the whole Mandarin reveal aswell, was it really worth it just to make a funny scene? It's stuff like that just makes me roll my eyes. There wasn't any need to do that.

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Oh, and the title of this thread bothered me. But now I know why.

Marvel isn't 'reliant', much less 'over reliant' on humor. It's reliant on solid A to B storytelling and good characterization. Stuff that has made blockbusters worked since forever. The 'humor' is a textural thing. They neither make or break these films.

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It's like the whole Mandarin reveal aswell, was it really worth it just to make a funny scene? It's stuff like that just makes me roll my eyes. There wasn't any need to do that.
Totally. Trevor Slattery is one of the best things in ever in the MCU.

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Totally. Trevor Slattery is one of the best things in ever in the MCU.
Glad you liked it, I thought it was ridiculous.

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Oh, and the title of this thread bothered me. But now I know why.

Marvel isn't 'reliant', much less 'over reliant' on humor. It's reliant on solid A to B storytelling and good characterization. Stuff that has made blockbusters worked since forever. The 'humor' is a textural thing. They neither make or break these films.
totally agree with this

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the whole Mandarin reveal
oh, yo're one of those..
well, in that case, I'll leave this thread

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