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[Gianakin_]

Raggy, we're saying the same thing, don't worry!

[The_Raganork]

Originally Posted by Gianakin_

Raggy, we're saying the same thing, don't worry!

I know, Elsewhere didn't give me a post worth enough to quote to make my point.

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

That does not make for repeat viewing.

i don't know if you know this but Kids are not the target audience for this film and kids often aren't the audience for repeat viewings.

Parents taking kids to see TDKR are not a high portion of the audience going to see TDKR.

It's people like you and I who will see it 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 times...in the first day.

[Kane52630]

[Jedm1991]

Exactly what Rag said, All Obi-Wan did was kill Darth Maul, that whole movie is based around Qui-Gon and Anakin.

[Excelsior.]

I'm dying.

When are we getting a poster or trailer or SOMETHING!!!!

[elsewhere]

I'll concede that Qui-Gon probably could be considered the main hero, but I don't think it's all that clean cut. Obi-Wan and Anakin both had a share of heroic moments too. The prequels give me a headache.

[Kane52630]

My bet was #65, hopefully something shows up in this thread.

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Raganork8

I know, Elsewhere didn't give me a post worth enough to quote to make my point.



i don't know if you know this but Kids are not the target audience for this film and kids often aren't the audience for repeat viewings.

Parents taking kids to see TDKR are not a high portion of the audience going to see TDKR.

It's people like you and I who will see it 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 times...in the first day.

I think that is wrong way to look at it. It isn't about seeing it 4 times on opening day. It is little Jimmy asking to go again a week or even two later with his brother, sisters and friends. Then mom or dad or even both take him and guess what. You just sold the equivalent of one of us crazies multiple viewings. Twice over.

[Anjow1060]

Originally Posted by Raganork8

I know, Elsewhere didn't give me a post worth enough to quote to make my point.



i don't know if you know this but Kids are not the target audience for this film and kids often aren't the audience for repeat viewings.

Parents taking kids to see TDKR are not a high portion of the audience going to see TDKR.

It's people like you and I who will see it 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 times...in the first day.

Believe it or not - I think my goal is going to be to watch the movie as many possible times that I can that day.

12:01 showing.

3:00am showing (if they have it)

home / sleep

1st matinee showing (10:30 most likely)

2:00 showing.

Dinner

6 / 7 o'clock showing.

11:30 showing.

I think the max amount of times one can watch a movie in the theater is about 6 times. And I'm going for it.

- Jow

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by elsewhere

I'll concede that Qui-Gon probably could be considered the main hero, but I don't think it's all that clean cut. Obi-Wan and Anakin both had a share of heroic moments too. The prequels give me a headache.

That is like saying Han or Leia are the main hero of SW, ESB or ROTJ.

[elsewhere]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

That is like saying Han or Leia are the main hero of SW, ESB or ROTJ.

So you don't agree Qui-Gon is the main hero of TPM? Go on.

[Anjow1060]

Kiddos.... did anyone watch the Harry S. Plinkett review of Episode I ?

There is no discernible MAIN character!

- Jow

[The_Raganork]

Originally Posted by elsewhere

I'll concede that Qui-Gon probably could be considered the main hero, but I don't think it's all that clean cut. Obi-Wan and Anakin both had a share of heroic moments too. The prequels give me a headache.

Another way to passively insult the prequels.

We were talking about TPM not the prequels, go back to the last incarnation of this thread and read it.

Qui-Gon is the hero of TPM. There is no consideration, there's no argument. This is a fact. Obi-Wan and Anakin were bystanders in TPM while Qui-Gon acted.

In no way are you in any fashion correct on this issue.

I'm starting to think the prequels give you headaches because maybe you aren't understanding them.

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

I think that is wrong way to look at it. It isn't about seeing it 4 times on opening day. It is little Jimmy asking to go again a week or even two later with his brother, sisters and friends. Then mom or dad or even both take him and guess what. You just sold the equivalent of one of us crazies multiple viewings. Twice over.

This doesn't happen very often aside from Kid's films. TDKR is going to be a drama film. Kids aren't going to want to see it over and over, they were never intended to want to see it over and over, hence why it has a PG-13 rating and not PG.

The "loss" of these multiple viewings by kids is non-existent. They weren't going to want to see it over and over because it's not intended for them and furthermore Batman dying is not going to keep people from seeing it again as long as it's done with action and adventure.

[Doctor Jones]

Yes, because we should believe everytrhing that the man says as gospel. It's not to be taken seriously anyway. I don't get why people don't understand this?

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by elsewhere

So you don't agree Qui-Gon is the main hero of TPM? Go on.

No, I think he obviously is. Just like Luke obviously is of all the OT films.

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Raganork8

Another way to passively insult the prequels.

We were talking about TPM not the prequels, go back to the last incarnation of this thread and read it.

Qui-Gon is the hero of TPM. There is no consideration, there's no argument. This is a fact. Obi-Wan and Anakin were bystanders in TPM while Qui-Gon acted.

In no way are you in any fashion correct on this issue.

I'm starting to think the prequels give you headaches because maybe you aren't understanding them.



This doesn't happen very often aside from Kid's films. TDKR is going to be a drama film. Kids aren't going to want to see it over and over, they were never intended to want to see it over and over, hence why it has a PG-13 rating and not PG.

The "loss" of these multiple viewings by kids is non-existent. They weren't going to want to see it over and over because it's not intended for them and furthermore Batman dying is not going to keep people from seeing it again as long as it's done with action and adventure.

You don't get to a billion without kids and families. This isn't even really a debate. People are projecting this film to do crazy business. You need Batman to be air conditioning/babysitter for those kind of numbers.

[elsewhere]

Originally Posted by Anjow1060

Kiddos.... did anyone watch the Harry S. Plinkett review of Episode I ?

There is no discernible MAIN character!

- Jow

That's what I've been saying. But people insist it's Qui-Gon. I agree to an extent. He had to most screen time and could be construed as the main.

[elsewhere]

Originally Posted by Raganork8

I'm starting to think the prequels give you headaches because maybe you aren't understanding them.

No, they give me a headache because they're terrible movies.

[J.Howlett]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

You don't get to a billion without kids and families. This isn't even really a debate. People are projecting this film to do crazy business. You need Batman to be air conditioning/babysitter for those kind of numbers.

Explain Titanic. The kids didn't see Titanic that much. That was more of an adult audience.

[Dragon_316ca]

http://thegrandtheatre.com/movies/?id=4519&set=soon

150 mins? Somebody should call the theatre's head office.

[The_Raganork]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

You don't get to a billion without kids and families. This isn't even really a debate.

Clearly it is a debate.

Sure kids and families can go but I don't know how to impress upon you any more that this is not a kids and family film. This is a teenagers and their friends/Adults with money for multiple viewings film.

Kids and families will make up some of the revenue but multiple viewings from this demographic are not something anyone is really counting on. TDK didn't make it's money from Kids and families it made it from unrelenting nerds like us going to see this film a multitude of times and taking every last person we know with us.

People are projecting this film to do crazy business. You need Batman to be air conditioning/babysitter for those kind of numbers.

He's Batman... you don't need him to be a babysitter you simply need to have him be Batman in an awesome way.

You've got the Batman audience

You've got the CBM freak audience

You've got the Dark Knight Audience

You've got the general audience and...

You've got the Christopher Nolan Audience

That's enough, these people will more than likely catch the film several times and on IMAX. People aren't taking their kids to watch people die horrible deaths and terrorism incarnate on the screen, in a serious, narrative heavy way.

[Jedm1991]

Kids aint going to want to watch this film multiple times lets say 30 minutes of the film is action and the other 2 hours is Wayne's relationships,emotions and story, kid's below 10 and probably below 13 are going to be bored during those 2 hours.