The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 70

[babbage]

Originally Posted by J.Howlett

"Your punishment must be more severe...."

That gave me goosebumps. How far is Nolan willing to go with Bruce's punishment in this film?

Ask echostation!

[JAK®]

Haha yeah guys aren't people who disagree with us just so STUPID? LOL!

[batman44]

I just off work and should be sleep, but just happen to turn on my macbook and... wow! I was already excited, but man do love this latest trailer. Music, cinematography, action, acting, everything looks top notch. Can't wait to see this in front of Avengers.

If this trailer is anything to go by, Nolan you did it again.

[Marvin]

psst, Bane's on drugs of some sort.

I love that they shot this film in Pittsburgh. Makes me believe Gotham really is a dump lol. Kinda like Robocop's Detroit. That's one thing that really irked me about Begins, like alot of things, it was in the script but not on the screen.

[AnneFan]

Originally Posted by Blue Sugar

This Bane elbow looks hurtful and damn Bats looks incompetent in this. Guess that's how it goes when you come back too soon from retirement.

Indeed. I appreciate that they've nailed the spirit of the Bane/Batman relationship, at least from Knightfall. Batman going into the fight run down, Bane already a beast but dominating even more because of Batman's state, Bane ruling Gotham like his prison, etc. It's all there.

[Blue Sugar]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

I can't recall any film superheroes in recent memory who lays down beaten and bloodied and gives up to the point of almost begging a villain to kill him. It deconstructs the hero i have grown up with all my life and cuts me deeper than I'd like to admit, non bat fans may love the trailer, but they won't understand the emotions running through my head seeing bruce wayne a broken weak man on the screen.

And that shiver of pain of his when he wakes up...

He really looks immobilized and begging for mercy.

Your punishment must be more severe. When Gotham is ashes, you'll have my permission to die.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

I can't recall any film superheroes in recent memory who lays down beaten and bloodied and gives up to the point of almost begging a villain to kill him. It deconstructs the hero i have grown up with all my life and cuts me deeper than I'd like to admit, non bat fans may love the trailer, but they won't understand the emotions running through my head seeing bruce wayne a broken weak man on the screen.

Is it good or bad for you?
By the way, I haven't noticed him begging for anything.

[DKDetective]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

I can't recall any film superheroes in recent memory who lays down beaten and bloodied and gives up to the point of almost begging a villain to kill him. It deconstructs the hero i have grown up with all my life and cuts me deeper than I'd like to admit, non bat fans may love the trailer, but they won't understand the emotions running through my head seeing bruce wayne a broken weak man on the screen.

Yeah, I REALLY do not understand all the complaints about this trailer being underwhelming. It is ridiculously epic and dramatic. This is an aging hero at the end of his rope about to face his biggest challenge.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Blue Sugar

And that shiver of pain of his when he wakes up...

He really looks immobilized and begging for mercy.

Haven't noticed him begging for mercy either.

[Marvin]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

I can't recall any film superheroes in recent memory who lays down beaten and bloodied and gives up to the point of almost begging a villain to kill him. It deconstructs the hero i have grown up with all my life and cuts me deeper than I'd like to admit, non bat fans may love the trailer, but they won't understand the emotions running through my head seeing bruce wayne a broken weak man on the screen.

The original Iron Man and Blade are probably the closet to such a thing. But this seems like a huge no no for the typical Marvel studios film.

[Sharkboy]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Is it good or bad for you?
By the way, I haven't noticed him begging for anything.

Bruce almost wants an easy way out, and that terrifies me. It's beyond good/bad it's something real special, people weren't expecting the trailer to be like this and i can bet something fierce they'll just be as shocked when the film comes out.

[craigdbfan]

Originally Posted by Sharkboy

I can't recall any film superheroes in recent memory who lays down beaten and bloodied and gives up to the point of almost begging a villain to kill him. It deconstructs the hero i have grown up with all my life and cuts me deeper than I'd like to admit, non bat fans may love the trailer, but they won't understand the emotions running through my head seeing bruce wayne a broken weak man on the screen.

Reminds me of a Samurai almost. His honor has been taken away from him so death is the only option he finds suiting.

The whimper/yelp he does when waking up from his nightmare is also pretty sad.

[DoomsdayApex]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

Reminds me of a Samurai almost. His honor has been taken away from him so death is the only option he finds suiting.

The whimper/yelp he does from waking up from his nightmare is also pretty sad.

Yes, exactly!

[DKDetective]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Haven't noticed him begging for mercy either.

It's in Bruce's eyes and the way he says "kill me". He's afraid. He knows Bane would only keep him alive if he has something worse than death planned. It's all in the subtext.

[Blue Sugar]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Haven't noticed him begging for mercy either.

I meant that more figuratively.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

The whimper/yelp he does when waking up from his nightmare is also pretty sad.

What if Bale gets another Oscar nomination? I mean, scenes with him are truly heart-breaking.

[TheBelgiumBat]

Check at 1:51 on the right, there is an actor from Prison Break

[Revenant]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

The whimper/yelp he does when waking up from his nightmare is also pretty sad.

It sounds like he is severely injured and Bane is pouring proverbial salt in the wound. Also kind of looks like Bruce is coming out of a fear toxin hallucination.

[AnneFan]

Originally Posted by Revenant

Also kind of looks like Bruce is coming out of a fear toxin hallucination.

I don't think so. It's showing he's dazed IMO.

[Revenant]

Originally Posted by AnneFan

I don't think so. It's showing he's dazed IMO.

You are probably right.

[DKDetective]

Originally Posted by AnneFan

I don't think so. It's showing he's dazed IMO.

It reminds me of when he wakes from the nightmare at the beginning of Batman Begins. The angle and everything.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by DKDetective

It's in Bruce's eyes and the way he says "kill me". He's afraid. He knows Bane would only keep him alive if he has something worse than death planned. It's all in the subtext.

I though he's just being curious: Why didn't you just kill me?

I think, Bruce W. isn't afraid of Bane. It's crisis of faith and hope. Not fear. Maybe depression.

[Doctor Who]

It was nice seeing Christopher Judge in the trailer, finally; he shoved Blake over.

[Eggyman]

Just saw the trailer. Some great shots, some epic, but the trailer in general... I don't know. It just seems a bit lethargic. I've felt this from each of the trailers so far. There doesn't seem to be any bang to them. Still, from what I've seen, the film looks like it will be good. I've been around here long enough to know a great trailer does not equal a great film, and the reverse of that.

[Revenant]

Another Chris Nolan film that I will have to see no less than 3 times at the theater.